Xanadu93 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I think it's overrated. In my opinion, Permanent Waves is better - it's got two extended numbers - "Jacob's Ladder" and "Natural Science" - that don't repeat the same themes over and over (see "The Camera Eye"), two pop-accessible songs ("The Spirit of Radio" and "Freewill", which are still played today on radio), and two love-tinged songs ("Different Strings" and "Entre Nous", the latter of which could also pass as a single, and was played on radio IIRC). I won't say that Moving Pictures is a bad album, or a mediocre album - I just happen to think there are other albums better than it (Permanent Waves, Power Windows, Counterparts), and I simply believe it is overrated. The same applies for Yes' Close To The Edge - it's one of the best Yes albums and one of my favorites, but I think it's overrated, and I prefer Relayer, Fragile, and 90125 to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadu93 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 9 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 1 Anonymous Users): Storm Shadow, GeddysMullet, tangy, tick, VarianStar, ILSnwdog, New World Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidcrystalcompass Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Not at all. Let's swap S&A with MP timewise. We would all shit bricks if Moving Pictures came out in '07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Honestly, is this even the right question? People can EASILY think the album is overrated and still think it's a very good or even fantastic album. All this means is that someone thinks maybe it's been too blown out of proportion, thought of too highly against other Rush albums that they think of as good or better or that maybe it's too over-exposed. The question I originally posed in the other thread was how many people out there thought MP was a bad album or just average. I think those figures would be even more skewed, as I would imagine precious few Rush fans think the album is bad or even average... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) Now it seems there are 6 people on here who are smoking the crack pipe. HELL NO! Overplayed perhaps, but never overrated. Edited June 26, 2009 by RUSHHEAD666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Cocky Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Overplayed LEADS to overrated. What's the point of the distinction again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 QUOTE (tick @ Jun 25 2009, 12:55 PM) QUOTE (Rush Cocky @ Jun 25 2009, 03:45 PM) To illustrate that I am a better Rush fan than thou art.... I have TWO copies of Hemispheres. I have the picture disc album. me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeddyRulz Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 QUOTE (Rushman14 @ Jun 25 2009, 02:09 PM) There are not many albums that I would call "perfect", but for me Moving Pictures definitely falls in that category. Agreed. Also: Beethoven's 9th Symphony A Love Supreme Dark Side of the Moon There are others, but these - I think - are completely undebatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 QUOTE (Xanadu93 @ Jun 25 2009, 01:06 PM) I think it's overrated. In my opinion, Permanent Waves is better - it's got two extended numbers - "Jacob's Ladder" and "Natural Science" - that don't repeat the same themes over and over (see "The Camera Eye"), two pop-accessible songs ("The Spirit of Radio" and "Freewill", which are still played today on radio), and two love-tinged songs ("Different Strings" and "Entre Nous", the latter of which could also pass as a single, and was played on radio IIRC). I won't say that Moving Pictures is a bad album, or a mediocre album - I just happen to think there are other albums better than it (Permanent Waves, Power Windows, Counterparts), and I simply believe it is overrated. The same applies for Yes' Close To The Edge - it's one of the best Yes albums and one of my favorites, but I think it's overrated, and I prefer Relayer, Fragile, and 90125 to it. I can see liking Permanent Waves better than MP, but Counterparts?? There isnt a track on CP that stacks up against Tom Sawyer, Red Barchetta, YYZ or Limelight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeddyRulz Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 QUOTE (liquidcrystalcompass @ Jun 25 2009, 03:08 PM) Not at all. Let's swap S&A with MP timewise. We would all shit bricks if Moving Pictures came out in '07. Yep! I'd be going nuts for MP if it had just been released. And I would've been bumming after Permanent Waves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionDetector Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 QUOTE (Rush Cocky @ Jun 25 2009, 03:27 PM) Overplayed LEADS to overrated. What's the point of the distinction again? While that may be true for some albums, that does NOT apply to epic masterpieces! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 QUOTE (GeddyRulz @ Jun 25 2009, 01:39 PM) QUOTE (liquidcrystalcompass @ Jun 25 2009, 03:08 PM) Not at all. Let's swap S&A with MP timewise. We would all shit bricks if Moving Pictures came out in '07. Yep! I'd be going nuts for MP if it had just been released. And I would've been bumming after Permanent Waves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 QUOTE (Rushman14 @ Jun 25 2009, 01:37 PM) QUOTE (Xanadu93 @ Jun 25 2009, 01:06 PM) I think it's overrated. In my opinion, Permanent Waves is better - it's got two extended numbers - "Jacob's Ladder" and "Natural Science" - that don't repeat the same themes over and over (see "The Camera Eye"), two pop-accessible songs ("The Spirit of Radio" and "Freewill", which are still played today on radio), and two love-tinged songs ("Different Strings" and "Entre Nous", the latter of which could also pass as a single, and was played on radio IIRC). I won't say that Moving Pictures is a bad album, or a mediocre album - I just happen to think there are other albums better than it (Permanent Waves, Power Windows, Counterparts), and I simply believe it is overrated. The same applies for Yes' Close To The Edge - it's one of the best Yes albums and one of my favorites, but I think it's overrated, and I prefer Relayer, Fragile, and 90125 to it. I can see liking Permanent Waves better than MP, but Counterparts?? There isnt a track on CP that stacks up against Tom Sawyer, Red Barchetta, YYZ or Limelight. I agree with this, and I happen to LOVE Counterparts. Side one of Moving Pictures is "ABSOLUTE PERFECTION." The best album side of all time IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 QUOTE (Rush Cocky @ Jun 25 2009, 01:02 PM)QUOTE (tick @ Jun 25 2009, 03:55 PM) QUOTE (Rush Cocky @ Jun 25 2009, 03:45 PM) To illustrate that I am a better Rush fan than thou art.... I have TWO copies of Hemispheres. I have the picture disc album. OH yeah? I got the remastered picture disc album, and got a free Rush calendar just for being so awesome. I have a Moving Pictures promo poster: http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e85/rushgoober6/march102reduced.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionDetector Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 BTW...easiest poll of all-time. Seriously. I'll give you 7 reasons why MP is certainly NOT overrated: 1) Tom Sawyer 2) Red Barchetta 3) YYZ 4) Limelight 5) The Camera Eye 6) Witch Hunt 7) Vital Signs That should be all you need to realize why it's not overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ Jun 25 2009, 01:43 PM) BTW...easiest poll of all-time. Seriously. I'll give you 7 reasons why MP is certainly NOT overrated: 1) Tom Sawyer 2) Red Barchetta 3) YYZ 4) Limelight 5) The Camera Eye 6) Witch Hunt 7) Vital Signs That should be all you need to realize why it's not overrated. Might as well close the thread right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionDetector Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 25 2009, 03:40 PM) Side one of Moving Pictures is "ABSOLUTE PERFECTION." The best album side of all time IMHO. THIS right here is absolutely 100% true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeaveMyThingAlone Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 I would probably say there's an argument for Side 2 of MP being overrated. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Camera Eye (kinda boring), or Witch Hunt...I like Vital Signs, but not a ton. I would maintain that Hemispheres and Permanent Waves are more complete albums from Song 1 to the last minute. BUT, that being said, Side 1 of Moving Pictures is absolute perfection. I mean Tom Sawyer, Red Barchetta, YYZ, and Limelight...that's just freakin' ridiculous 20 minutes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppetKing2112 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Purely as a fan on the basis of my own personal rankings it isn't my favorite, but if aliens landed and asked me to give them one album that completely sums up what Rush is about, there's really no other answer. That should answer the question well enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ Jun 25 2009, 01:44 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 25 2009, 03:40 PM) Side one of Moving Pictures is "ABSOLUTE PERFECTION." The best album side of all time IMHO. THIS right here is absolutely 100% true! I agree too. Wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Cocky Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 25 2009, 04:42 PM) I have a Moving Pictures promo poster: http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e85/rushgoober6/march102reduced.jpg ARRRRRRGHHHHHHHH!!!!! I bow to your superior fanhood!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Cocky Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 QUOTE (LeaveMyThingAlone @ Jun 25 2009, 04:46 PM) I mean Tom Sawyer, Red Barchetta, YYZ, and Limelight...that's just freakin' ridiculous 20 minutes! Tru dat. I can't think of 4 songs off of one album that have gotten more concert play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 25 2009, 03:42 PM) QUOTE (Rush Cocky @ Jun 25 2009, 01:02 PM)QUOTE (tick @ Jun 25 2009, 03:55 PM) QUOTE (Rush Cocky @ Jun 25 2009, 03:45 PM) To illustrate that I am a better Rush fan than thou art.... I have TWO copies of Hemispheres. I have the picture disc album. OH yeah? I got the remastered picture disc album, and got a free Rush calendar just for being so awesome. I have a Moving Pictures promo poster: http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e85/rushgoober6/march102reduced.jpg i have the same one, not in a frame yet, just hard plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 QUOTE (Rush Cocky @ Jun 25 2009, 02:07 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 25 2009, 04:42 PM) I have a Moving Pictures promo poster: http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e85/rushgoober6/march102reduced.jpg ARRRRRRGHHHHHHHH!!!!! I bow to your superior fanhood!!!! Dude, it was like $20 or $25 off ebay when I got it. I used to have tons of Rush posters as a teen, but got rid of them years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 QUOTE (metaldad @ Jun 25 2009, 02:11 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 25 2009, 03:42 PM) QUOTE (Rush Cocky @ Jun 25 2009, 01:02 PM)QUOTE (tick @ Jun 25 2009, 03:55 PM) QUOTE (Rush Cocky @ Jun 25 2009, 03:45 PM) To illustrate that I am a better Rush fan than thou art.... I have TWO copies of Hemispheres. I have the picture disc album. OH yeah? I got the remastered picture disc album, and got a free Rush calendar just for being so awesome. I have a Moving Pictures promo poster: http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e85/rushgoober6/march102reduced.jpg i have the same one, not in a frame yet, just hard plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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