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#1 Rushman14

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 11:54 AM

Big dropoff this week

In it's 11th week of release, S&A came in at #131 on the Soundscan top 200 with 5,518 units sold for a total of 219,138 units to date. That's a 56% drop.

Looks like last week's surge had alot to do with the MVI release, plus the break in the tour.

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 12:18 PM

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 12:18 PM

It's difficult to fathom that this magnificent album isn't selling better.  At least all of us here know greatness when we hear it.  2.gif  2.gif  2.gif  2.gif  2.gif  

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 12:33 PM

QUOTE (KevinDallas @ Jul 19 2007, 10:18 AM)
It's difficult to fathom that this magnificent album isn't selling better.  At least all of us here know greatness when we hear it.  2.gif  2.gif  2.gif  2.gif  2.gif

I actually bow to it's greatness every day.

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 05:59 PM

wow, I'm surprised it sold that many.

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 07:08 PM

QUOTE (TheCameraEye @ Jul 19 2007, 05:59 PM)
wow, I'm surprised it sold that many.

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Posted 19 July 2007 - 10:56 PM

QUOTE (PariahDog @ Jul 19 2007, 05:08 PM)
QUOTE (TheCameraEye @ Jul 19 2007, 05:59 PM)
wow, I'm surprised it sold that many.

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 01:44 AM

I think S&A has done quite well considering the label has done nothing to support it.  

The days of the multi-platinum sellers are over.  They will be few and far between.  I doubt there will be many artists that accomplish that feat more than once.  (You know, one and done.)

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 02:14 AM

Main stream is what the majority wants, That's why the obsession with easy to digest and comprehend crap like nickleback is so disgustingly  popular. RUSH uses to many big words and nobody wants to spend the time and actually "think" while listening to a song. Intellect rock is out...
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Posted 20 July 2007 - 04:02 AM

QUOTE (softfilter @ Jul 20 2007, 06:14 PM)
Main stream is what the majority wants, That's why the obsession with easy to digest and comprehend crap like nickleback is so disgustingly  popular. RUSH uses to many big words and nobody wants to spend the time and actually "think" while listening to a song. Intellect rock is out...
    DUMB ROCK RULES!!!$$$$ 1022.gif

  smile.gif Yeah but here at TRF and all the other members of the other boards know good music when we hear it  2.gif will always rule. 2.gif  2.gif  2.gif  

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 05:30 AM

Is it possible to get a number from the biggest download sites on how many times S&A is downloaded? I guess it must be several hundred thousands all together.

When VT came out, downloading was not such an big issue as it is today.



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Posted 20 July 2007 - 08:21 AM

QUOTE (KevinDallas @ Jul 19 2007, 12:18 PM)
It's difficult to fathom that this magnificent album isn't selling better.  At least all of us here know greatness when we hear it.  2.gif  2.gif  2.gif  2.gif  2.gif

Sales have never really been an indicator of quality.  So much great music flies under the radar all the time, while we get Kid Rock and Brittney Spears rammed down our throats.  It's pretty sad.


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Posted 20 July 2007 - 10:24 AM

Snowman,
Excellent point about the downloaded album...how many times has S & A been downloaded?

It's too bad that if the entire album is downloaded that it can't be added to the total of the cd sales to make an 'total sales' total.  They should really do that....or maybe they do and I just don't know what it's called, etc.

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 01:04 PM

QUOTE (jkt2112 @ Jul 20 2007, 01:44 AM)
I think S&A has done quite well considering the label has done nothing to support it. 

The days of the multi-platinum sellers are over.  They will be few and far between.  I doubt there will be many artists that accomplish that feat more than once.  (You know, one and done.)

At work, I listen to rushradio.org and am NEVER disappointed!!!


Looking forward to meeting some of you from TRF at the Bowl and in Irvine.


-Jkt

Thanks for the head's up on the web-radio site.  applaudit.gif  I've added it to my favorite's page at work.  Within a half-hour, I was hooked on the site.  They played part of Hemispheres and The Camera Eye.  I'd never heard them on regular radio.  BTW, they are playing "Xanadu" right now.  Too damn cool!!!

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 08:10 PM

QUOTE (ILSnwdog @ Jul 20 2007, 08:21 AM)
QUOTE (KevinDallas @ Jul 19 2007, 12:18 PM)
It's difficult to fathom that this magnificent album isn't selling better.  At least all of us here know greatness when we hear it.  2.gif  2.gif  2.gif  2.gif  2.gif

Sales have never really been an indicator of quality.  So much great music flies under the radar all the time, while we get Kid Rock and Brittney Spears rammed down our throats.  It's pretty sad.

B*tchney Sneers and Kid Crock aren't selling big anymore as well. Those two cockroaches wore out their welcome! It is now Carrie Underwood, Smiley Miley Cyrus (a/k/a Hannah Montana, who Tony's daughter) and fake gangsta sh*t like TI and poseur rockers like Craphill Ravine and Smelly Crockson.  

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 08:20 PM

I'll still never get over the fact that you think these names you come up with for people are funny and/or clever.

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 08:23 PM

I think blaming the mainstream audience for not wanting or being able to appreciate this music is missing the mark. People aren't going to buy something they don't know exists! This album has gotten almost zero promotion from the record label. Shame on them! I'm surprised it's sold as much as it has.

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 02:13 AM

Yeah, Rush are a cash cow for the record label. They are bleeding money on promoting other acts, and they know that Rush have a stabile fan base who will buy their cd's no matter what so why promote? They need to earn some money somewhere.

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 07:35 AM

QUOTE (floydfanatic111 @ Jul 23 2007, 08:10 PM)
QUOTE (ILSnwdog @ Jul 20 2007, 08:21 AM)
QUOTE (KevinDallas @ Jul 19 2007, 12:18 PM)
It's difficult to fathom that this magnificent album isn't selling better.  At least all of us here know greatness when we hear it.  2.gif  2.gif  2.gif  2.gif  2.gif

Sales have never really been an indicator of quality.  So much great music flies under the radar all the time, while we get Kid Rock and Brittney Spears rammed down our throats.  It's pretty sad.

B*tchney Sneers and Kid Crock aren't selling big anymore as well. Those two cockroaches wore out their welcome! It is now Carrie Underwood, Smiley Miley Cyrus (a/k/a Hannah Montana, who Tony's daughter) and fake gangsta sh*t like TI and poseur rockers like Craphill Ravine and Smelly Crockson.

Shows you how in tune I am with pop culture.  laugh.gif


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Posted 24 July 2007 - 07:39 AM

QUOTE (Snowman @ Jul 24 2007, 01:13 AM)
Yeah, Rush are a cash cow for the record label. They are bleeding money on promoting other acts, and they know that Rush have a stabile fan base who will buy their cd's no matter what so why promote? They need to earn some money somewhere.

I think it's a bit more insidious than that. Whether they're doing this consciously or not, I think the record labels have, for ages, promoted mediocre bands, because they're not about the music; they're about the business. The "product" might be inferior, but it's easier to produce. Get your market used to your inferior product and cram it down their throats. Just like McDonald's.

Mediocre musicians, who'll do whatever the record label wants them to do (both in terms of the record itself and its promotion), are a commodity in surplus.

"Art as expression, not as market campaigns."

There's no way a band like Rush can ever fit that model. They're in the same camp as bands like Phish, that way. The record labels don't know how to handle them, but they don't really need to. Just let the band do its thing and the money rolls in. Try to muck with things (like Elektra did when they made Phish do singles and videos briefly in the mid-'90s) and watch it fall apart.

So... let's not worry about S&A not going quintuple-platinum. I just think it would be sad if there are any Rush fans out there who missed out on this because it wasn't promoted enough. (Then again, all Rush fans are rabidly obsessive and come to this forum in the morning before work, right? wink.gif )

Edited by Room 34, 24 July 2007 - 07:43 AM.





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