Rick N. Backer Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Time for a change at QB? No. But a different play calling strategy would make sense.How about getting a couple of receivers........ With the exception of 2007 when they got Moss, the Patriots have not done a good job at getting quality, outside the numbers, receivers during Brady's career. I can't explain it, because they've brought in free agents, drafted guys relatively high (Dropson is a second round pick I think), and still they've misfired a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Time for a change at QB? Yes.That's just plain silly. Why? (and remember, I'm a Dolphins fan.) Does being a Dolphins fan preclude someone from having an understanding of the game? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Time for a change at QB? Yes.That's just plain silly. Why? (and remember, I'm a Dolphins fan.) Does being a Dolphins fan preclude someone from having an understanding of the game? So you think that the Pats will be better without Brady starting than with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del_Duio Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 No, it's not time to dump Brady quite yet. Thankfully, nobody around here thinks Brady's the main problem. A problem? Eh, maybe he's not playing so great- I mean that's not really debatable- but I think he's always thinking he's going to get leveled on every play because nobody can block anymore. Why they didn't try to load up and make a serious attempt at the Super Bowl during Brady's waning years I'll never know. I don't think they have a snowball's chance against the Bengals Sunday. Oh the humanity :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidcrystalcompass Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Time for a change at QB? Yes.That's just plain silly. Why? (and remember, I'm a Dolphins fan.) Does being a Dolphins fan preclude someone from having an understanding of the game? So you think that the Pats will be better without Brady starting than with him?He has no blocking and no wide receivers Switch Peyton Manning and Brady and it would look the same if not worse. Manning has a fragile phsyche when it comes to getting smacked. This is the same quarterback that was in the AFC Championship game 10 months ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Time for a change at QB? Yes.That's just plain silly. Why? (and remember, I'm a Dolphins fan.) Does being a Dolphins fan preclude someone from having an understanding of the game? So you think that the Pats will be better without Brady starting than with him?He has no blocking and no wide receivers Switch Peyton Manning and Brady and it would look the same if not worse. Manning has a fragile phsyche when it comes to getting smacked. This is the same quarterback that was in the AFC Championship game 10 months ago. The offense clearly has problems deeper than Brady, but his downfield accuracy is bad, and he's just flat out missing receivers much more than he should. I think Manning and several other QBs would do better than Brady in the same situation, but that doesn't mean the team still wouldn't be 2-2 right now. It also doesn't mean that Brady won't be much better later on in the year, again contending to be considered one of the best current QBs. But right now he's not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Time for a change at QB? Yes.That's just plain silly. Why? (and remember, I'm a Dolphins fan.) Does being a Dolphins fan preclude someone from having an understanding of the game? So you think that the Pats will be better without Brady starting than with him?He has no blocking and no wide receivers Switch Peyton Manning and Brady and it would look the same if not worse. Manning has a fragile phsyche when it comes to getting smacked. This is the same quarterback that was in the AFC Championship game 10 months ago. And the season before that. And the season before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Time for a change at QB? Yes.That's just plain silly. Why? (and remember, I'm a Dolphins fan.) Does being a Dolphins fan preclude someone from having an understanding of the game? So you think that the Pats will be better without Brady starting than with him? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Time for a change at QB? Yes.That's just plain silly. Why? (and remember, I'm a Dolphins fan.) Does being a Dolphins fan preclude someone from having an understanding of the game? So you think that the Pats will be better without Brady starting than with him?He has no blocking and no wide receivers Switch Peyton Manning and Brady and it would look the same if not worse. Manning has a fragile phsyche when it comes to getting smacked. This is the same quarterback that was in the AFC Championship game 10 months ago. The offense clearly has problems deeper than Brady, but his downfield accuracy is bad, and he's just flat out missing receivers much more than he should. I think Manning and several other QBs would do better than Brady in the same situation, but that doesn't mean the team still wouldn't be 2-2 right now. It also doesn't mean that Brady won't be much better later on in the year, again contending to be considered one of the best current QBs. But right now he's not there. His downfield accuracy has never been great. Moss covered it somewhat since he was able to run anything down, but Brady's strength has always been his accuracy with the 10 to 20 yard passes, and his decision making. Provided he doesn't have pass rushers grabbing his jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Time for a change at QB? Yes.That's just plain silly. Why? (and remember, I'm a Dolphins fan.) Does being a Dolphins fan preclude someone from having an understanding of the game? So you think that the Pats will be better without Brady starting than with him?He has no blocking and no wide receivers Switch Peyton Manning and Brady and it would look the same if not worse. Manning has a fragile phsyche when it comes to getting smacked. This is the same quarterback that was in the AFC Championship game 10 months ago. The offense clearly has problems deeper than Brady, but his downfield accuracy is bad, and he's just flat out missing receivers much more than he should. I think Manning and several other QBs would do better than Brady in the same situation, but that doesn't mean the team still wouldn't be 2-2 right now. It also doesn't mean that Brady won't be much better later on in the year, again contending to be considered one of the best current QBs. But right now he's not there. His downfield accuracy has never been great. Moss covered it somewhat since he was able to run anything down, but Brady's strength has always been his accuracy with the 10 to 20 yard passes, and his decision making. Provided he doesn't have pass rushers grabbing his jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Time for a change at QB? Yes.That's just plain silly. Why? (and remember, I'm a Dolphins fan.) Does being a Dolphins fan preclude someone from having an understanding of the game? So you think that the Pats will be better without Brady starting than with him? No. Then you should understand why a Dolphins fan wants to see a change of QB in New England. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidcrystalcompass Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Time for a change at QB? Yes.That's just plain silly. Why? (and remember, I'm a Dolphins fan.) Does being a Dolphins fan preclude someone from having an understanding of the game? So you think that the Pats will be better without Brady starting than with him? No. Then you should understand why a Dolphins fan wants to see a change of QB in New England.It's different. You haven't had a quarterback since Marino. That's a long friggin' time!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Time for a change at QB? Yes.That's just plain silly. Why? (and remember, I'm a Dolphins fan.) Does being a Dolphins fan preclude someone from having an understanding of the game? So you think that the Pats will be better without Brady starting than with him? No. Then you should understand why a Dolphins fan wants to see a change of QB in New England.It's different. You haven't had a quarterback since Marino. That's a long friggin' time!!! **cries in corner** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Time for a change at QB? Yes.That's just plain silly. Why? (and remember, I'm a Dolphins fan.) Does being a Dolphins fan preclude someone from having an understanding of the game? So you think that the Pats will be better without Brady starting than with him? No. Then you should understand why a Dolphins fan wants to see a change of QB in New England.It's different. You haven't had a quarterback since Marino. That's a long friggin' time!!! I was actually just talking about the Dolphins with a friend of mine who is a fan. It makes me feel so old to think that it's been 30 years since they last played in a Super Bowl. And I remember it so vividly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Time for a change at QB? Yes.That's just plain silly. Why? (and remember, I'm a Dolphins fan.) Does being a Dolphins fan preclude someone from having an understanding of the game? So you think that the Pats will be better without Brady starting than with him? No. Then you should understand why a Dolphins fan wants to see a change of QB in New England.It's different. You haven't had a quarterback since Marino. That's a long friggin' time!!! I was actually just talking about the Dolphins with a friend of mine who is a fan. It makes me feel so old to think that it's been 30 years since they last played in a Super Bowl. And I remember it so vividly. And 20 years since an AFC championship, IIRC. Because I grew up in the northeast and otherwise am a fan of NY teams, when I moved to NYC in 2004 after 6 years being in China and 4 years of not paying attention to the NFL, I toyed with becoming a Giants fan. I had lots of free tickets and went to a bunch of games, always cheering for the home team. I gave up the idea in 2007 when I realized I was happier that the Pats lost than that the Giants won (only the '72 fins are perfect!). However, I consider the Giants my second team, now. With that in mind, I'm trying to decide whether to inflict horrible pain on my kids and pass down my Dolphins fandom, or give them a chance in life and foster a Giants fandom. I'm leaning towards Dolphins, but I feel almost cruel for doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Time for a change at QB? Yes.That's just plain silly. Why? (and remember, I'm a Dolphins fan.) Does being a Dolphins fan preclude someone from having an understanding of the game? So you think that the Pats will be better without Brady starting than with him? No. Then you should understand why a Dolphins fan wants to see a change of QB in New England.It's different. You haven't had a quarterback since Marino. That's a long friggin' time!!! I was actually just talking about the Dolphins with a friend of mine who is a fan. It makes me feel so old to think that it's been 30 years since they last played in a Super Bowl. And I remember it so vividly. And 20 years since an AFC championship, IIRC. Because I grew up in the northeast and otherwise am a fan of NY teams, when I moved to NYC in 2004 after 6 years being in China and 4 years of not paying attention to the NFL, I toyed with becoming a Giants fan. I had lots of free tickets and went to a bunch of games, always cheering for the home team. I gave up the idea in 2007 when I realized I was happier that the Pats lost than that the Giants won (only the '72 fins are perfect!). However, I consider the Giants my second team, now. With that in mind, I'm trying to decide whether to inflict horrible pain on my kids and pass down my Dolphins fandom, or give them a chance in life and foster a Giants fandom. I'm leaning towards Dolphins, but I feel almost cruel for doing it.Do you mean AFC Championship game? If so, you're right. I let my kid choose his own team. He went with the Bengals (and to a lesser extent, the Packers, since he was born in WI). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g under p Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 The only good thing about the crushing the Chiefs gave the Patriots is the loss is early in the season. That said they will be back starting with the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadoood Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 So what do you guys think of Garropollo? Is he the official successor to Brady? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) Skip believes in you, Patriots! Even without bringing in Tim Tebow (if they had him he'd be predicting they'd go 15-1.... Go ahead and hate, haters. Celebrate the downfall of Coach Condescending and Tom Terrific. Please convince yourselves it's finally safe to write off Bill Belichick and Tom Brady just four games into a season. Let me hear you, Doubting Toms: Brady finally got old! He lost his zip, aim and nerve! Belichick hastened his demise by providing a sorry offensive line and sorrier receivers! Die, dynasty, die! Now hear me: The New England Patriots will rise like the phoenix from the ashes of Monday night's 41-14 loss in Kansas City and land at the University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale, Arizona, playing in Super Bowl XLIX. This will begin Sunday night in Foxborough, Massachusetts, when New England defeats unbeaten Cincinnati 24-21. Go ahead, laugh. While you can. The Patriots, who lead the NFL in Jealousy Generated, soon will shut up skeptics from sea to doubting sea. Here are 12 reasons No. 12 will lead them to yet another 12-4 record ... Beware the NFL's red herring game It's doubtful the 1985 Bears would have beaten the Chiefs in that stadium on that night. Twelfth Man Seahawks fans still generate the loudest media hype, but Chiefs fans again set the decibel record for an outdoor stadium, inspiring their team to play (and their coaches to coach) a near-perfect game. I'll be the first to admit the Patriots looked miss-the-playoffs hapless in every phase -- couldn't run or pass or stop the run or the pass. But it appeared Brady's offense (with rookie starters at center and guard) underestimated how much the record decibels would disrupt execution, and Belichick's defense was caught flat-footed by many of K.C. coach Andy Reid's creative wrinkles. Shame on Belichick. But bad quickly turned into misleading worse. Result: hilarious overreaction to yet another of the NFL's addictively astonishing outcomes, such as Tennessee 26, Chiefs 10 in that same stadium on opening afternoon; Carolina 24, Detroit 7; Giants 45, at Washington 14; Atlanta 56, Tampa Bay 14 followed by last Sunday's visiting Tampa Bay 27, Pittsburgh 24. Wait, with Brady still reasonably healthy, bettors are jumping off New England's bandwagon as if this is a stock-market panic, plunging the spread an insane four points? The Pats, who opened as a three-point favorite, are now a one-point underdog? If I were a betting man ... Bottoms up I'm certainly not suggesting Belichick scripted this debacle, but it will serve as the perfect launching pad for a team many predicted would make it to the Super Bowl or at least to the AFC title game for the fourth straight season. I predicted Seattle over New England in the Super Bowl, and I am loving all the preposterous doom-saying reverberating on TV and radio. The Patriots will NOT love it. Advantage: Belichick. As Brady said Wednesday, his teams have always had the ability to "grind it out" when things look bleak -- to figure it out on the fly, lead the league in instant ingenuity. Brady emphasized that "we have a lot of high-character individuals in the locker room." Do they ever. And now that locker room is embarrassed and angry and hyper-focused and ready to play with what San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich calls "appropriate fear." (The Spurs and Patriots organizations have modeled themselves after each other.) Beware the Patriots coming off an all-time, big-stage humiliation returning to prime time Sunday night to take on the 3-0 Bengals, who beat them 13-6 in the rain in Cincinnati last season. This team (like Florida State in college football) is so much better than it has played. Tom Brady/Tom Hardy Brady reminds me a little of Tom Hardy's Oscar-worthy portrayal of Bob Saginowski in James Gandolfini's final movie, "The Drop." Bob is a nice, polite, easygoing guy ... who will shoot you in the face if he has to. Brady is at his greatest when he plays mad -- when he hits Rob Gronkowski with a touchdown pass and runs all the way to the end zone to helmet-butt him in a jarringly maniacal celebration. We're about to see Angry Brady thanks to Belichick. I was surprised at how surprised (to the point of outrage) ESPN's Steve Young and Trent Dilfer were after Monday night's game that Belichick yanked Brady after Brady threw the interception returned for a touchdown that made it 41-7 with 10:34 left. Young said Brady should've been allowed to "clean up the mess." Brady didn't exactly sound pleased with the decision, saying, "I do what I'm told." I would have been surprised if Belichick hadn't taken him out. Imagine the backlash if Brady had gotten hurt in the final 10 minutes of what was looking like the worst blowout ever suffered in the Belichick era. But if Brady is starting to boil because he was benched ... advantage: Belichick. Tom Brady and Tom HardyUSA TODAY Sports, Getty ImagesIt's best not to underestimate Tom Brady. And a certain movie character played by Tom Hardy.Collective amnesia Young was equally passionate in his defense of Brady before the game, when he criticized the Patriots organization for not giving Brady enough help to "attack the Super Bowl." Sorry, I have no sympathy for Tom Brady, BECAUSE HE'S TOM BRADY. Last season, the Patriots scored the NFL's third-most points -- while Gronkowski missed nine games, including the 43-22 playoff win over Andrew Luck's Colts. I made the case all season on "First Take" that Brady should be MVP because his go-to receiver was a seventh-round pick who was a college QB, Julian Edelman, who will never invite Randy Moss comparisons. So Belichick didn't cheat Brady by allocating far more money for positions other than receiver. He paid homage to him. Or maybe, like some Pats fans, he was just spoiled by him. Why wouldn't Belichick believe Brady could repeat last year's feat? With Gronkowski trying to return from knee, back and elbow surgeries, Belichick did sign Brandon LaFell, who became a Brady favorite during camp. So this offense can begin to click like last season if ... Brady recommits to strangely underutilized targets Word is Brady is down on Danny Amendola, who's still capable of filling Wes Welker's jitterbugging shoes. Brady, I'm told, has become less and less impressed with Amendola's football IQ and unwillingness to play with minor injuries. Amendola had two 10-catch games last season. He now has three catches in four games. That must change, and will now. So must this: Second-year receivers Aaron Dobson and Kenbrell Thompkins were healthy inactives Monday night. Huh? The Boston Globe reported Dobson has been in coordinator Josh McDaniel's doghouse. Has Thompkins been in Brady's? Both have some deep speed. Both had their moments last season. If both are now blended back into the passing attack, it will start looking much more explosive. Ditto Shane Vereen, who had a 10-catch game and two eight-catch games last season. So far: two five-catch games. Brady still has enough weapons, if he's desperate enough to use them. Even Brady can't pull off routinely forcing passes to a double-covered Edelman. [+] EnlargeBill BelichickWinslow Townson/Getty ImagesBill Belichick has more tools than ever to assemble a roster, evaluate players and coach games.Gronk will start to Gronk The only good sign Monday night was Gronkowski's late catch and bulldoze for a TD. Brandon Browner is finally eligible He's coming off a PED suspension to join the great Darrelle Revis at cornerback in what could turn into a secondary rivaling Seattle's. Collective amnesia II Just last season, a Pats defense that lost Vince Wilfork for the last 12 games and Jerod Mayo for the last 10 -- and that did not have Revis or Browner -- managed to get New England to the AFC title game. This defense will get much better than last year's. Belichick will soon be proved right about trading offensive guard and leader Logan Mankins In Belichick you must trust. In 2003 the world pretty much ended when he released Lawyer Milloy -- and New England won the Super Bowl. In 2005, Belichick released Ty Law and still won the division. In 2009, he traded Richard Seymour and Mike Vrabel ... division champs. In 2010, he traded Randy Moss and finished with the NFL's best record, 14-2. The offensive line won't keep offending fans The Pats used an unheard-of five line combinations Monday night. Utter desperation. But watch Belichick find the right fit and watch rookies Bryan Stork and Cameron Fleming start to play like vets. Belichick deemed Mankins disposable because he saw something in these kids. The East is no beast Second-year QB EJ Manuel was just demoted in Buffalo. Many Jets fans would like to see second-year QB Geno Smith demoted. It sounded as though Miami coach Joe Philbin at least considered demoting a struggling Ryan Tannehill last week. Advantage: Belichick. The Pats are 2-2, not 2-12 Under Belichick, they've started 2-2 three times, finishing 14-2 in 2003, 10-6 in 2005 and 12-4 two years ago. They have four of the next five games at home. So you had better laugh now. Belichick nearly always laughs last, behind closed doors. http://espn.go.com/n...-patriots-start Edited October 4, 2014 by laughedatbytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g under p Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Well I was right the Patriots would be back now they just have to play better on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Tom Brady's biggest fan.... http://dy.snimg.com/story-image/2/6/270636/270636-650-366.jpg The Patriots have dedicated fans and perhaps that dedication is taken a little too far at times but hey it's football. Let's put aside the fact that 46-year-old Victor Thompson was arrested for possession in Florida but the man has a New England Patriots helmet tattooed on his head. This is not just any Patriots helmet, it's Tom Brady's complete with his number and a green dot on the back. http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2014-10-10/new-england-patriots-fan-tattoo-tom-brady-helmet-arrest-florida?eadid=SOC%2FFB%2FSNMain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Tom Brady's biggest fan.... No, wait.....I thought YOU were Brady's biggest fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) Tom Brady's biggest fan.... No, wait.....I thought YOU were Brady's biggest fan. 2nd...gotta give it up for this guy...he has got to be #1 (probably with a bullet)... Edited October 10, 2014 by laughedatbytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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