NeilPeartFan2112 Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 So, what album do you think really got Rush going? I personally think it's 2112. That album really started their "unique" sound that would carry on for many years. Any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war2112 Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 That's what I would have chose. But since you did, and I had another wandering around in that place where my brain is supposed to reside, I'll go with Permanent Waves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilPeartFan2112 Posted November 13, 2004 Author Share Posted November 13, 2004 QUOTE (war2112 @ Nov 13 2004, 01:08 AM) That's what I would have chose. But since you did, and I had another wandering around in that place where my brain is supposed to reside, I'll go with Permanent Waves. Not a bad choice. I like that album a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushfreak Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 It has to be2112, I believe that they considered calling it quits after "Caress" but made another album and the rest is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
launchpad67a Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Well, if you go on a 'radio' play theme, then 'Spirit of Radio'. This was the first song that really got into 'heavy rotation' on the radio. Granted, in select markets there were other Rush songs being played but nothing hit the nation wide radio like 'Spirit'. And as soon as that hit, you started hearing all kinds of other tunes. I remember hearing live Xanadu on the 'King Biscut Flower Hour' when I was around 14 yrs. I thought it was the coolest thing back then!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 The first album would be be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowdog Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 2112 without a doubt. Their record label was considering dropping them if 2112 didn't hit big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaine mac Roth Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 With regard to the UK I think it would have to be A Farewell to Kings. Prior to that, the other albums had, generally, only been available on import but, on the heels of their first British dates as part of the All the Worlld's a Stage Tour, FTK was the first album to get an official UK release at the same time as the USA and Canada. In addition, Closer to the Heart was released as their first single in the UK as made the lower regions of the charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madra sneachta Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 QUOTE (Slaine mac Roth @ Nov 13 2004, 01:06 PM) With regard to the UK I think it would have to be A Farewell to Kings. Prior to that, the other albums had, generally, only been available on import but, on the heels of their first British dates as part of the All the Worlld's a Stage Tour, FTK was the first album to get an official UK release at the same time as the USA and Canada. In addition, Closer to the Heart was released as their first single in the UK as made the lower regions of the charts. I remember reading a book years ago (Brian Harrigan I think was the author), where he wrote about seeing Rush for the first time in the UK in '76 and being stunned at the number of fans at the gig who knew every word. There was always a cult following there, but while 2112 was the breakthrough album in terms of ensuring they had a career (Rushfreak & Snowdog are both right there), I think Permanent Waves was probably the real breakthrough both commercially and in terms of their sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowdog Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 QUOTE (madra sneachta @ Nov 13 2004, 09:17 AM) I think Permanent Waves was probably the real breakthrough both commercially and in terms of their sound. From a mass market appeal perspective, I believe Slaine is correct in that this provided their most "commercially acceptable" material in regards to appealing to the masses and it also provided an awesome new direction for the band to go in. So in terms of musical direction, I would agree with Slaine that PeW provided a "musical breaktrough" for the boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaine mac Roth Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 QUOTE (Snowdog @ Nov 13 2004, 04:55 PM) QUOTE (madra sneachta @ Nov 13 2004, 09:17 AM) I think Permanent Waves was probably the real breakthrough both commercially and in terms of their sound. From a mass market appeal perspective, I believe Slaine is correct in that this provided their most "commercially acceptable" material in regards to appealing to the masses and it also provided an awesome new direction for the band to go in. So in terms of musical direction, I would agree with Slaine that PeW provided a "musical breaktrough" for the boys. Except that I didn't say that, it was madra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowdog Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 QUOTE (Slaine mac Roth @ Nov 13 2004, 04:09 PM) QUOTE (Snowdog @ Nov 13 2004, 04:55 PM) QUOTE (madra sneachta @ Nov 13 2004, 09:17 AM) I think Permanent Waves was probably the real breakthrough both commercially and in terms of their sound. From a mass market appeal perspective, I believe Slaine is correct in that this provided their most "commercially acceptable" material in regards to appealing to the masses and it also provided an awesome new direction for the band to go in. So in terms of musical direction, I would agree with Slaine that PeW provided a "musical breaktrough" for the boys. Except that I didn't say that, it was madra. sorry madra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidglove14 Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Because classic rock radio was few and far between in the 70's, you really only heard Spirit of Radio, until Moving Pictures came out, then you heard Tom Saywer, Limelight, YYZ and Red Barchetta being played all the time. Slowly, disc jockeys started talking about Rush with respect that they had built such a core audience with no help from radio. Closer to the Heart and Freewill started making appearances on the radio also. So, while 2112 is awsome, and Permanent Waves put them onto the radar, Moving Pictures really brought Rush to everyone's attention. It went platinum in seconds. Kidglove14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilPeartFan2112 Posted November 14, 2004 Author Share Posted November 14, 2004 QUOTE (kidglove14 @ Nov 13 2004, 06:35 PM) Because classic rock radio was few and far between in the 70's, you really only heard Spirit of Radio, until Moving Pictures came out, then you heard Tom Saywer, Limelight, YYZ and Red Barchetta being played all the time. Slowly, disc jockeys started talking about Rush with respect that they had built such a core audience with no help from radio. Closer to the Heart and Freewill started making appearances on the radio also. So, while 2112 is awsome, and Permanent Waves put them onto the radar, Moving Pictures really brought Rush to everyone's attention. It went platinum in seconds. Kidglove14 Yeah, but if 2112 failed and they didn't get a record deal you may have never heard of Rush again, which may have meant no Moving Pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppetKing2112 Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 From a commercial standpoint, I have to agree with 2112, but from a musical and historical standpoint I have to go with Caress of Steel. This is when they started writing the kind of 20-minute epics that would make them famous in years to come. Plus, this record was a mojor flop which forced 2112 to be so great. So if thay hadnt made Caress, they wouldnt have made 2112 either. So in the end I have to say that Caress of Steel is Rush's breakthrough album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto45 Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 Im going to go with Power Windows. It is just a great album all the way around. Also Hold your fire. I am a 80's and 90's fan. But i am also in to the 70's a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madra sneachta Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 The real question is what constitutes a breakthrough album? It could be argued from many perspectives with different answers, all equally valid. I've always liked the quote which was given by Leonardo Da Vinci (I think) when asked what was his most important painting. His reply - The next one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yyz Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 2112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kazzman Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 2112 AKA The biggest F**k You! in Rock History. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yyz Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 QUOTE (kazzman @ Nov 14 2004, 10:15 PM) 2112 AKA The biggest F**k You! in Rock History. NICE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilPeartFan2112 Posted November 15, 2004 Author Share Posted November 15, 2004 QUOTE (yyz @ Nov 14 2004, 09:16 PM) QUOTE (kazzman @ Nov 14 2004, 10:15 PM) 2112 AKA The biggest F**k You! in Rock History. NICE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ES-335 Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 2112 ALthough it is one of my least favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilPeartFan2112 Posted November 15, 2004 Author Share Posted November 15, 2004 QUOTE (ES-335 @ Nov 14 2004, 09:27 PM) 2112 ALthough it is one of my least favorites. Are you serious dude? Why is that? I think it's an amazing album. My favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ES-335 Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 I loved the album when it was released ... and I still love it compared the mass of NON RUSH almuns out there, and I still get chills at the end of Grand Finale ... but twilight zone, passage and lessons doesn't do as much as most of the other albums. Also, and I may be flamed for this, and that is ok ... but I feel that the 2112 suite is a little on the cheesy side now after almost 30 years. I can't remember the last time I listened to the whole first side os 2112. But, I still feel it is their breakthrough album for many reasons, maibly as it is the best selling album from the 70s (I think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yyz Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 QUOTE (NeilPeartFan2112 @ Nov 14 2004, 10:28 PM) QUOTE (ES-335 @ Nov 14 2004, 09:27 PM) 2112 ALthough it is one of my least favorites. Are you serious dude? Why is that? I think it's an amazing album. My favorite. Rare to hear one of least liked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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