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#21 condemned2bfree

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Posted 09 January 2021 - 04:03 AM

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View Postcondemned2bfree, on 08 January 2021 - 08:10 AM, said:

Sounds great.Right off the bat - Looking Glass is an exceptional song. It's a really great composition, R.E.M..totally stand out track. Melody and conviction. :o Wow! with that one. That's a special song.

Only thing I would say mix wise, is the kick drum (+kit) sounds out of place on some tracks. Suits some but not others.

The whole album reminds me of Husker Du (Warehouse). Not musically but in its searching nature...if that makes sense. Other tracks that stand out are; Swing It Over, How Do You Like it? Vile And Splendid. It's a cohesive album with many melodic vocal hooks/guit solos(that I like) and no track seems out of place. All have attractive qualities in varying degrees.

I do think its the best entry so far. :D

Fantastic work guys! :haz:

Thanks!

The original version of what would become Looking Glass was very different, including lyrics and vocal melody, and goes back to the mid-90s.

Several years ago I had submitted a skeletal arrangement of the song where I used synth piano as a placeholder for guitar parts that would come later, with new lyrics being provided by PM&S, but at the time of that submission, SFC didn't exist, so it really just going to be a "JARG song". Other musical projects/songs came along and this never got out of the "what do you think?" stage, and to be honest, I kinda' forgot about the song.

Then a few months ago PM&S approached me about resurrecting the song and including it on the album, keeping the piano-to-become-guitar parts as piano (PM&S has a friend who's quite a good pianist), so I changed up the arrangement a bit to better accommodate a dedicated piano part and rewrote the piano part to be, well more of an actual piano part. The pianist took what I wrote and made it better. Far better. (Not that hard to do since I'm just a lowly guitarist!). I personally don't get an R.E.M. vibe from it (I usually only hear Rush influences in my songs), but I think it's cool that you do.

Here's how the song originally sounded. Yeah, I think we improved the hell out of it.



Hear the Rush in the earlier version. Syncopated drums guitar start, stripped down bass, guit, drums. Think it's the piano and vocal line in a few areas that makes me say REM in the later incarnation.  Thanks for the explanation with the Looking Glass song, was actually wondering about it. Incredible how you've all  transformed the music into such an amazing piece. :ebert:

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Posted 09 January 2021 - 06:28 PM

The good:
A cool range of familiarity without sounding like copycats of big name bands. Heard some R.E.M., The Cult, and Love & Rockets. Surely there are more but these were the first that came to mind. These are all compliments.

The bad:
Mrs. B and Lucy the Yappy Dog kept interrupting me every other song. I need to give this a proper, PRIVATE listen. I’m sure I missed some parts (whether more good, or possibly something I might not like).

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My main problem with musicians is the vocals. I’m a bit overly critical with them I think. And yeah I know - the vocals should fit the music but I’m still critical no matter what. But why shouldn’t I be? Anyhoo, the vocals here I thought either fit just fine or I kind of forgot about them altogether a.k.a. nothing bad, just a range from “ok” to “decent”. Even that level isn’t easy to achieve with my picky ears.


So yeah, pretty good work here, Cowboys. It deserves a more attentive listening session for sure. Thanks for sharing :cheers:

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Posted 21 January 2021 - 11:33 PM

I like it a lot.  But I had the same problem with the vocals.  Not that the singer(s) are bad, but I don't like the way they sound.

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Posted 26 January 2021 - 04:55 PM

After a couple of uncommonly busy weeks, I finally got a chance to start listening to these albums today...just listened to the latest (going in reverse order). Very nice job, guys! "Golden Boy" I think was one that stuck in my mind after, I think that's the one with the nice atmospheric intro with the rain ambience and the clean arpeggiated patterns and the harmonizer lead. Good work!

Yeah indeed, seating vocals right and taming harshness can sometimes be challenging and take a bit of busy-work with automation. I've found it useful to have an extra EQ plugin on vocal tracks with a couple of semi-narrow frequency bands where I can automate dips to tame harsh resonances on specific syllables or lines. The neighborhood of 2kHz is where the problem often lies with vowels that pin your ears back. Trying a different mic and/or positioning of it may be worthwhile too..certain voices just take better to certain mics. And of course that doesn't even go into how the same mic can react differently with different preamps. So many variables, even in the tracking stage!

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Posted 07 June 2021 - 11:28 AM

Hello all you fine people!

We have just completed our 5th albun titled "Comical and Disturbing"

If you are so inclined, follow the link below and check it out.....feedback always welcome.


https://sloppyfootco...-and-disturbing

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Posted 07 June 2021 - 12:39 PM

You've definitely stepped up your production skills, Fridge! Great work!

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Posted 09 June 2021 - 04:23 PM

The train keeps rolling!

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 09:27 AM

View PostJARG, on 07 June 2021 - 12:39 PM, said:

You've definitely stepped up your production skills, Fridge! Great work!

Thanks!...it's been a steep learning curve, but I'm getting there bit by bit....

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 10:19 AM

First impressions on my initial listening to the album -

- I think the musicianship and vocals are a step up from previous releases.

- The songwriting is stronger.

- The production is way better than previous releases.

All round a good result and definitely on an upward trajectory.

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Posted 11 June 2021 - 06:30 AM

View Postzepphead, on 10 June 2021 - 10:19 AM, said:

First impressions on my initial listening to the album -

- I think the musicianship and vocals are a step up from previous releases.

- The songwriting is stronger.

- The production is way better than previous releases.

All round a good result and definitely on an upward trajectory.

Appreciate the comments mate, means a lot...

I think we're all improving at our "craft" and it bodes well for the future.

I particularly appreciate the production comments as I've really been trying to up my game at this and it's good to here some positive confirmation of this

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Posted 18 June 2021 - 03:16 AM

Great job Paul on the mixing. Ive not given it justice with listening to it in depth, but the mixing sounds better. The guitars sound wonderful. Only thing I would say is the cymbals sound too high up, and distract. Mixing overall is definitely an improvement. Nice one.

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Posted 18 June 2021 - 05:10 AM

View Postcondemned2bfree, on 18 June 2021 - 03:16 AM, said:

Great job Paul on the mixing. Ive not given it justice with listening to it in depth, but the mixing sounds better. The guitars sound wonderful. Only thing I would say is the cymbals sound too high up, and distract. Mixing overall is definitely an improvement. Nice one.

Cheers for that Steve

re the guitars, before we started this album I invested in Bias2 software from Positive Grid.....the tones are unbelievable

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Posted 18 June 2021 - 11:50 AM

Great stuff, and the production is great too!

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Posted 20 June 2021 - 11:08 AM

View PostFridge, on 18 June 2021 - 05:10 AM, said:

View Postcondemned2bfree, on 18 June 2021 - 03:16 AM, said:

Great job Paul on the mixing. Ive not given it justice with listening to it in depth, but the mixing sounds better. The guitars sound wonderful. Only thing I would say is the cymbals sound too high up, and distract. Mixing overall is definitely an improvement. Nice one.

Cheers for that Steve

re the guitars, before we started this album I invested in Bias2 software from Positive Grid.....the tones are unbelievable

What's your signal path?

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Posted 17 August 2021 - 04:47 PM

View PostFridge, on 07 June 2021 - 11:28 AM, said:

Hello all you fine people!

We have just completed our 5th albun titled "Comical and Disturbing"

If you are so inclined, follow the link below and check it out.....feedback always welcome.


https://sloppyfootco...-and-disturbing

Apologies for not listening sooner, I love this mix of influences! I wish rock like this was the zeitgeist rather than the cliche, soulless, faux blues metal status quo is today.

Just some notes as I'm listening:

-I dig the moodiness of Bullet.
-Cour D'Alene is strong, good hooks.
-Sight Lines probably my favorite so far! That instrumental outro really builds into something magic. Keep going!
-New Dose is like if 80s new wave happened in the 90s, which turns out pretty cool.
-Days In The Bell Jar has a very strong hook, with some Rushy guitar harmonics in there.
-I like the chord structure on Fill The Space, the simple melody works well for this as well, smiley face for the bass
-really enjoying the intro to all of Pull Me Away, strong drums, great guitar tones, well composed music, vocals have taken a step up, might be the best song here!
-Dare seems oddly washed out. Maybe it's just since I'm streaming, or maybe my portable speaker. The music is good, just feel like I'm sitting next to the (virtual) drums rather than in front of the band
-Dig the bass chords on Underdog, like The Pass but heavier, good closer

Overall good track sequencing. Maybe a bit of fillerish material in there but then I've only given one listen. Each song had its own character. Bass and guitar playing was strong throughout, with some good tones chosen as well. Drums seemed to be programmed how a human drummer would play them, which must've taken a lot of effort. Good result there. I thought there were only two things holding this back: the vocals seemed pitchy on most songs and the production seemed inconsistent. From what I've read you've been working on the production and getting better every time, though this is my first time listening. I'm glad to hear it and I hope you keep going and improving! I certainly couldn't do anything like this yet for a single song, let alone a whole album. Just from a listening perspective I would love to hear it with a fuller sound. As far as the vocals, your singer has a really unique voice, with a couple of distinct registers which is cool. And sounding pitchy to me may just sound stylistic and cool to others, so it's all subjective anyway.

Sorry I'm late getting around to it, I'll tackle The Haze tomorrow. Thank you for sharing, and keep up the good work!




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