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#21 Nova Carmina

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 07:57 AM

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View PostNova Carmina, on 05 July 2020 - 07:22 AM, said:

If DeNiro wants to turn out dreck, he's earned the cred.

Using that thought, would you have been okay if Rush ended up playing nursery rhymes on kiddie instruments and out of tune ukeleles?

:P

If Geddy's next project was the "Big Book of Big Bad Wolves" in nursery rhyme form, I would shake my head, say "wtf?," and wish him well. Then I'd go listen to "Xanadu" again!

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 09:33 AM

View PostNova Carmina, on 05 July 2020 - 07:57 AM, said:

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View PostNova Carmina, on 05 July 2020 - 07:22 AM, said:

If DeNiro wants to turn out dreck, he's earned the cred.

Using that thought, would you have been okay if Rush ended up playing nursery rhymes on kiddie instruments and out of tune ukeleles?

:P

If Geddy's next project was the "Big Book of Big Bad Wolves" in nursery rhyme form, I would shake my head, say "wtf?," and wish him well. Then I'd go listen to "Xanadu" again!

:huh:

Of course you’d listen to Xanadu again. But you wouldn’t want the nursery rhyme rubbish the same as Treeduck doesn’t want and doesn’t understand Bobby’s terrible run for the last twenty years.

I don’t agree with the thought that since someone’s done great things, they’ve earned the right to do crappy work. For one thing, it’s so unRushlike (even though this thread is about Bobby). Sure they’re free to make crap but to me that’s just lazy. And that’s what DeNiro has been looking like to me this century [with the exception of his role in Joker last year]: lazy. No crime committed but it’s a little sad to see a former powerhouse like him take on (now) a couple of decades worth of sorry roles and movies.

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 10:27 AM

Just because you`ve got great credibility, it doesn`t turn sh*t into gold. Nobody forgave Eddie Van Halen, Van Halen III.  (Although I don`t personally hate it).  De Niro appearing in car adverts, Harvey Keitel and car insurance... I can`t help but shake my head.  I guess the number of years of earning are looking a bit limited and you`ve got more and more family than you had when you could pick film roles, so you figure just stuff your pockets before you`re dribbling on your shirt and thinking it`s 1973.

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 11:20 AM

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 05 July 2020 - 09:33 AM, said:

View PostNova Carmina, on 05 July 2020 - 07:57 AM, said:

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 05 July 2020 - 07:41 AM, said:

View PostNova Carmina, on 05 July 2020 - 07:22 AM, said:

If DeNiro wants to turn out dreck, he's earned the cred.

Using that thought, would you have been okay if Rush ended up playing nursery rhymes on kiddie instruments and out of tune ukeleles?

:P

If Geddy's next project was the "Big Book of Big Bad Wolves" in nursery rhyme form, I would shake my head, say "wtf?," and wish him well. Then I'd go listen to "Xanadu" again!

:huh:

Of course you’d listen to Xanadu again. But you wouldn’t want the nursery rhyme rubbish the same as Treeduck doesn’t want and doesn’t understand Bobby’s terrible run for the last twenty years.

I don’t agree with the thought that since someone’s done great things, they’ve earned the right to do crappy work. For one thing, it’s so unRushlike (even though this thread is about Bobby). Sure they’re free to make crap but to me that’s just lazy. And that’s what DeNiro has been looking like to me this century [with the exception of his role in Joker last year]: lazy. No crime committed but it’s a little sad to see a former powerhouse like him take on (now) a couple of decades worth of sorry roles and movies.
Doing bad work, especially continuously for over 20 years, undermines the good work and forces you to even reevaluate it.

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 11:32 AM

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He got to the point where he had nothing to prove anymore and just stopped caring. But still does it because they pay him a ton to play the goofy old man.

Joe Pesci was the smart one. He retired from full time acting years ago. He did what he wanted to do, got his money and got out.


It's been a while since I've seen that movie. I will have to revisit it soon.

It’s on Showtime streaming this month.  I’ve got it in my iTunes and Movies Anywhere cloud.

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 11:33 AM

View Posttreeduck, on 04 July 2020 - 11:04 PM, said:

View PostJ2112YYZ, on 04 July 2020 - 10:56 PM, said:

He got to the point where he had nothing to prove anymore and just stopped caring. But still does it because they pay him a ton to play the goofy old man.

Joe Pesci was the smart one. He retired from full time acting years ago. He did what he wanted to do, got his money and got out.


Someone’s not a fan of his jump to conclusions mat! :lol:

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 11:35 AM

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I don't remember Jack Nicholson's career hitting the skids like De Niro and he's worth around the same amount and he did the smart thing and retired in 2013. Nowadays his career is looking a lot more impressive than De Niro's.

I give Bobby a 22-2 movie record...though I skipped all of those 21st century terrible looking flicks. It started to go to shit around Analyze This or that Meet the Parents/Fockers fluff with Stiller around 20 years ago. I think Ronin in the late 90s was the last of his string of good/decent movies he had.

Jack I have at a 13-2 record but there was nothing I intentionally skipped.
Yeah it was when he did those shitty comedies the Fokkers and Analyze This etc. After that he went straight downhill.

The originals weren’t too bad.  The sequels sucked, though.

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 11:42 AM

View Postinvisible airwave, on 05 July 2020 - 11:32 AM, said:

View PostJ2112YYZ, on 04 July 2020 - 11:15 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 04 July 2020 - 11:04 PM, said:

View PostJ2112YYZ, on 04 July 2020 - 10:56 PM, said:

He got to the point where he had nothing to prove anymore and just stopped caring. But still does it because they pay him a ton to play the goofy old man.

Joe Pesci was the smart one. He retired from full time acting years ago. He did what he wanted to do, got his money and got out.


It's been a while since I've seen that movie. I will have to revisit it soon.

It’s on Showtime streaming this month.  I’ve got it in my iTunes and Movies Anywhere cloud.

I'm pretty sure I saw it a while back when I was scrolling through Netflix or Hulu.

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 12:26 PM

View PostIbanezJem, on 05 July 2020 - 10:27 AM, said:

Just because you`ve got great credibility, it doesn`t turn sh*t into gold. Nobody forgave Eddie Van Halen, Van Halen III.  (Although I don`t personally hate it).  De Niro appearing in car adverts, Harvey Keitel and car insurance... I can`t help but shake my head.  I guess the number of years of earning are looking a bit limited and you`ve got more and more family than you had when you could pick film roles, so you figure just stuff your pockets before you`re dribbling on your shirt and thinking it`s 1973.

Getting a commercial ad job for a major company is one of the best moves an actor can make from a financial standpoint. They get paid every time those commercials air. They make some serious bank off that. Why do we never see the lady who plays Flo in the Progressive insurance ads in anything else? Because she doesn't need to do anything else.

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 01:11 PM

View PostJ2112YYZ, on 05 July 2020 - 12:26 PM, said:

View PostIbanezJem, on 05 July 2020 - 10:27 AM, said:

Just because you`ve got great credibility, it doesn`t turn sh*t into gold. Nobody forgave Eddie Van Halen, Van Halen III.  (Although I don`t personally hate it).  De Niro appearing in car adverts, Harvey Keitel and car insurance... I can`t help but shake my head.  I guess the number of years of earning are looking a bit limited and you`ve got more and more family than you had when you could pick film roles, so you figure just stuff your pockets before you`re dribbling on your shirt and thinking it`s 1973.

Getting a commercial ad job for a major company is one of the best moves an actor can make from a financial standpoint. They get paid every time those commercials air. They make some serious bank off that. Why do we never see the lady who plays Flo in the Progressive insurance ads in anything else? Because she doesn't need to do anything else.
That was kind of my point; it`s a great earner.  When you get to near-Octogenarian status, it`s either a) easy month from commericals, or b) run for president.

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 01:32 PM

I just feel that with $500 million in the bank De Niro doesn't need to be doing shit like this. Joe Pesci retired 20 years ago and only has $50 million. Is Pesci doing stupid commercials?

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 02:07 PM

View PostJ2112YYZ, on 05 July 2020 - 11:42 AM, said:

View Postinvisible airwave, on 05 July 2020 - 11:32 AM, said:

View PostJ2112YYZ, on 04 July 2020 - 11:15 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 04 July 2020 - 11:04 PM, said:

View PostJ2112YYZ, on 04 July 2020 - 10:56 PM, said:

He got to the point where he had nothing to prove anymore and just stopped caring. But still does it because they pay him a ton to play the goofy old man.

Joe Pesci was the smart one. He retired from full time acting years ago. He did what he wanted to do, got his money and got out.


It's been a while since I've seen that movie. I will have to revisit it soon.

It’s on Showtime streaming this month.  I’ve got it in my iTunes and Movies Anywhere cloud.



I'm pretty sure I saw it a while back when I was scrolling through Netflix or Hulu.

It was on Starz a month ago since I’ve got a yearly subscription that ends in late September.

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 02:08 PM

View Posttreeduck, on 05 July 2020 - 01:32 PM, said:

I just feel that with $500 million in the bank De Niro doesn't need to be doing shit like this. Joe Pesci retired 20 years ago and only has $50 million. Is Pesci doing stupid commercials?



That little girl is Jesse Eisenberg’s sister.

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 02:12 PM

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View Posttreeduck, on 05 July 2020 - 01:32 PM, said:

I just feel that with $500 million in the bank De Niro doesn't need to be doing shit like this. Joe Pesci retired 20 years ago and only has $50 million. Is Pesci doing stupid commercials?

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That little girl is Jesse Eisenberg’s sister.
So now you're trying to say Pesci has sold out and gone downhill just as badly as De Niro? Posting this isn't going to make De Niro look good and all is forgiven.

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 02:16 PM

View Posttreeduck, on 05 July 2020 - 02:12 PM, said:

View Postinvisible airwave, on 05 July 2020 - 02:08 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 05 July 2020 - 01:32 PM, said:

I just feel that with $500 million in the bank De Niro doesn't need to be doing shit like this. Joe Pesci retired 20 years ago and only has $50 million. Is Pesci doing stupid commercials?

[media] [media]

That little girl is Jesse Eisenberg’s sister.
So now you're trying to say Pesci has sold out and gone downhill just as badly as De Niro? Posting this isn't going to make De Niro look good and all is forgiven.

That's an older commercial too. Pesci may have still been acting when that was airing.

Here's one he did more recently.



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Posted 05 July 2020 - 02:21 PM

Yes, Pesci has done some commercials. But at least his isn't taking all these goofy roles De Niro has been doing for the last 20 years.

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 03:13 PM

De Niro almost seems like he's been on a mission to ruin his own career. I remember back in the 80's when De Niro still had an aura of class about him, similar to Daniel Day Lewis. It started to erode in the 90's and now is completely gone. It's almost like the De Niro of the 70's, 80's and most of the 90's was a different guy, like he was replaced by an imposter in 1998.

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Posted 05 July 2020 - 03:36 PM

Why would modern, crappy-decision-making DeNiro, paycheck-cashing DeNiro, disrupt what you think about past DeNiro? Can't he have been great once, a titan of his field, and now he's a phoning-it-in corporate shill? The second thing doesn't undo the first thing. His work in the '70s and '80s was legit great and that's in the past, so it doesn't change. It's not like you can ask yourself, "was he really all that good, if he's the same guy who was in Dirty Grandpa?" Yes, he really was that good, and now he uses his skills for evil. Nothing gold can stay. Lament the drop-off, but don't let it retroactively tarnish the great stuff.

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Posted 12 July 2020 - 06:25 PM

I saw him in a movie last night from 2015 called The Intern, with Anne Hathaway.

Loved it.

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Posted 12 July 2020 - 06:28 PM

View PostSegue Myles, on 12 July 2020 - 06:25 PM, said:

I saw him in a movie last night from 2015 called The Intern, with Anne Hathaway.

Loved it.

That was a very good movie. :)





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