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Posted 25 January 2021 - 08:43 PM

How do we know we are at an impasse?  Since we both know a salary cap will virtually never happen, baseball has to do something to stay viable. Especially if as rumoured, the nba moves the start of its season to Christmas Day which would push it out to late August. That will kill baseball both in national and regional ratings. Regional revenue will shrink drastically because the networks now have something else to fill the programming time with.

And say what you want about Eli, he gets to ride Gisele whenever he wants.

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Posted 25 January 2021 - 09:15 PM

I'm not sure MLB and the NBA have a lot of overlap in appeal.  At least in baseball the outcome isn't predetermined in nearly as many cases as the NBA.   The Cavs, when they beat the Warriors in 2016, had as much chance, a priori, as the worst team in baseball had of beating the best in a four game series.  The vast majority of regular season NBA games are also meaningless, though that could be argued for MLB too I guess.)  And even the opening two rounds of playoffs are pretty much faits accompli.

It will be interesting to see how sports are delivered five years from now; things seem to be moving to streaming.  It may be that all teams will have their own networks.  As is the case for The Analog Cub, MLB HAS fubared their local TV deals.   I hope they hire someone savvy enough to do it right and maybe it's too optimistic to expect they'll do it right.

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Posted 25 January 2021 - 09:26 PM

Article on regional sports network raings for MLB vs NBA.  MLB certainly holds their own.

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Posted 27 January 2021 - 10:15 AM

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Let's start spreading the wealth next year, when the Cowboys are back!


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Posted 29 January 2021 - 06:07 PM

From the Future Looks Bright! Department:

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Posted 30 January 2021 - 10:14 PM

Stafford to Rams for Goff, 2 first rounders (2022 and 23) and a third rounder (21)

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Posted 30 January 2021 - 10:30 PM

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Stafford to Rams for Goff, 2 first rounders (2022 and 23) and a third rounder (21)

The Lions should rename themselves the Bandits.  :laughing guy:

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Posted 30 January 2021 - 11:07 PM

I love the NFL Network coverage of the trade.  A ton of Stafford highlights.  All positive.  A ton of Goff highlights...a ton of picks, fumbles and misfires.

I'm not so sure the Lions made out all that well.  The first-round picks are probably going to be in the low to mid 20s, and the Lions aren't exactly known for drafting acumen (though I know you can't make that assumption if you're the Lions).   But then they have to take on Goff's contract, about $43 million guaranteed over two years I believe.

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Posted 30 January 2021 - 11:15 PM

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 10:14 PM, said:

Stafford to Rams for Goff, 2 first rounders (2022 and 23) and a third rounder (21)
Stafford isn't much better than Goff and he's older, gets injured now and his contract isn't much different to Goofs. Rams got fleeced!

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Posted 30 January 2021 - 11:26 PM

What do Rams fans think of the deal?

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This is not good at all... 2 first rounders and a third for a mediocre QB, plus dead money. Just backwards. I d be ok if it was Watson or ARod. We re not dumping salary at this point. We’re mortgaging the future on Stafford. I like Stafford... I don’t like the deal at all. Snead and the FO is being outsold on every single deal.

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whoever made this deal needs firing asap. worst deal in the history of the rams imo.

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The fact people are saying Stafford is a top 5 qb just shows how delusional people are. Mahomes, Jackson, Watson, Allen, Brady, Wilson, Rodgers, Murray, herbert, burrow 'before injury' etc are all better then him.

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Did we really spent FIVE firsts on Goff, 3 to get him and 2 to lose him wow, this guy should change his name to Moriarty or something

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Lions fans are happy they got all those picks for an average qb. Stafford is basically a slightly better and older version then goff and the rams gave up 2 first rounders for him. When the rams are bounced from the playoffs this year then what will the excuse be then??


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Posted 30 January 2021 - 11:42 PM

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:15 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 10:14 PM, said:

Stafford to Rams for Goff, 2 first rounders (2022 and 23) and a third rounder (21)
Stafford isn't much better than Goff and he's older, gets injured now and his contract isn't much different to Goofs. Rams got fleeced!
First of all, the Rams had lost faith in a QB they were committed to for at least two years with $43 million guaranteed, who they needed to get rid of.   Secondly, Stafford had been in a situation that was a clusterfuck for a long time and had outperformed Goff by a substantial margin in context.  Despite their age differences Stafford will be an NFL starter after Goff is.   The Rams are built to win now and this gives them a better chance to do so.  All IMO of course.

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Posted 30 January 2021 - 11:49 PM

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 11:42 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:15 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 10:14 PM, said:

Stafford to Rams for Goff, 2 first rounders (2022 and 23) and a third rounder (21)
Stafford isn't much better than Goff and he's older, gets injured now and his contract isn't much different to Goofs. Rams got fleeced!
First of all, the Rams had lost faith in a QB they were committed to for at least two years with $43 million guaranteed, who they needed to get rid of.   Secondly, Stafford had been in a situation that was a clusterfuck for a long time and had outperformed Goff by a substantial margin in context.  Despite their age differences Stafford will be an NFL starter after Goff is.   The Rams are built to win now and this gives them a better chance to do so.  All IMO of course.
If the Saints had traded a 2nd rounder for Stafford, I would think it was an ok deal, a 3rd and I would have been happier.

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Posted 30 January 2021 - 11:52 PM

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:49 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 11:42 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:15 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 10:14 PM, said:

Stafford to Rams for Goff, 2 first rounders (2022 and 23) and a third rounder (21)
Stafford isn't much better than Goff and he's older, gets injured now and his contract isn't much different to Goofs. Rams got fleeced!
First of all, the Rams had lost faith in a QB they were committed to for at least two years with $43 million guaranteed, who they needed to get rid of.   Secondly, Stafford had been in a situation that was a clusterfuck for a long time and had outperformed Goff by a substantial margin in context.  Despite their age differences Stafford will be an NFL starter after Goff is.   The Rams are built to win now and this gives them a better chance to do so.  All IMO of course.
If the Saints had traded a 2nd rounder for Stafford, I would think it was an ok deal, a 3rd and I would have been happier.
Now imagine if you had a quickly fading Brees with $43 million guaranteed over the next two years.

According to reports, there were six teams with offers including 2021 #1s making the offer.

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Posted 30 January 2021 - 11:57 PM

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 11:52 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:49 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 11:42 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:15 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 10:14 PM, said:

Stafford to Rams for Goff, 2 first rounders (2022 and 23) and a third rounder (21)
Stafford isn't much better than Goff and he's older, gets injured now and his contract isn't much different to Goofs. Rams got fleeced!
First of all, the Rams had lost faith in a QB they were committed to for at least two years with $43 million guaranteed, who they needed to get rid of.   Secondly, Stafford had been in a situation that was a clusterfuck for a long time and had outperformed Goff by a substantial margin in context.  Despite their age differences Stafford will be an NFL starter after Goff is.   The Rams are built to win now and this gives them a better chance to do so.  All IMO of course.
If the Saints had traded a 2nd rounder for Stafford, I would think it was an ok deal, a 3rd and I would have been happier.
Now imagine if you had a quickly fading Brees with $43 million guaranteed over the next two years.

According to reports, there were six teams with offers including 2021 #1s making the offer.
Washington offered a better deal but Stafford wanted to go to LA so they did him a favour.

We've already done that with Brees for the last 2 years.

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Posted 30 January 2021 - 11:59 PM

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:57 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 11:52 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:49 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 11:42 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:15 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 10:14 PM, said:

Stafford to Rams for Goff, 2 first rounders (2022 and 23) and a third rounder (21)
Stafford isn't much better than Goff and he's older, gets injured now and his contract isn't much different to Goofs. Rams got fleeced!
First of all, the Rams had lost faith in a QB they were committed to for at least two years with $43 million guaranteed, who they needed to get rid of.   Secondly, Stafford had been in a situation that was a clusterfuck for a long time and had outperformed Goff by a substantial margin in context.  Despite their age differences Stafford will be an NFL starter after Goff is.   The Rams are built to win now and this gives them a better chance to do so.  All IMO of course.
If the Saints had traded a 2nd rounder for Stafford, I would think it was an ok deal, a 3rd and I would have been happier.
Now imagine if you had a quickly fading Brees with $43 million guaranteed over the next two years.

According to reports, there were six teams with offers including 2021 #1s making the offer.
Washington offered a better deal but Stafford wanted to go to LA so they did him a favour.

We've already done that with Brees for the last 2 years.
What did WAS offer?

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Posted 31 January 2021 - 12:07 AM

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 11:59 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:57 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 11:52 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:49 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 11:42 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:15 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 10:14 PM, said:

Stafford to Rams for Goff, 2 first rounders (2022 and 23) and a third rounder (21)
Stafford isn't much better than Goff and he's older, gets injured now and his contract isn't much different to Goofs. Rams got fleeced!
First of all, the Rams had lost faith in a QB they were committed to for at least two years with $43 million guaranteed, who they needed to get rid of.   Secondly, Stafford had been in a situation that was a clusterfuck for a long time and had outperformed Goff by a substantial margin in context.  Despite their age differences Stafford will be an NFL starter after Goff is.   The Rams are built to win now and this gives them a better chance to do so.  All IMO of course.
If the Saints had traded a 2nd rounder for Stafford, I would think it was an ok deal, a 3rd and I would have been happier.
Now imagine if you had a quickly fading Brees with $43 million guaranteed over the next two years.

According to reports, there were six teams with offers including 2021 #1s making the offer.
Washington offered a better deal but Stafford wanted to go to LA so they did him a favour.

We've already done that with Brees for the last 2 years.
What did WAS offer?
I think they offered the same but Washington has a first this year so that's deemed a better deal.

If Brees comes back this year it's 36 million against the cap, 22 million in dead money if he retires, which we'll probably spread over 2022 and 2023 and just get an 11 million hit in 2021.

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Posted 31 January 2021 - 12:12 AM

It's 35 years since Jim Mora was made Saints head coach, January 28 1986.

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Posted 31 January 2021 - 12:13 AM

View Posttreeduck, on 31 January 2021 - 12:07 AM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 11:59 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:57 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 11:52 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:49 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 11:42 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:15 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 10:14 PM, said:

Stafford to Rams for Goff, 2 first rounders (2022 and 23) and a third rounder (21)
Stafford isn't much better than Goff and he's older, gets injured now and his contract isn't much different to Goofs. Rams got fleeced!
First of all, the Rams had lost faith in a QB they were committed to for at least two years with $43 million guaranteed, who they needed to get rid of.   Secondly, Stafford had been in a situation that was a clusterfuck for a long time and had outperformed Goff by a substantial margin in context.  Despite their age differences Stafford will be an NFL starter after Goff is.   The Rams are built to win now and this gives them a better chance to do so.  All IMO of course.
If the Saints had traded a 2nd rounder for Stafford, I would think it was an ok deal, a 3rd and I would have been happier.
Now imagine if you had a quickly fading Brees with $43 million guaranteed over the next two years.

According to reports, there were six teams with offers including 2021 #1s making the offer.
Washington offered a better deal but Stafford wanted to go to LA so they did him a favour.

We've already done that with Brees for the last 2 years.
What did WAS offer?
I think they offered the same but Washington has a first this year so that's deemed a better deal.

If Brees comes back this year it's 36 million against the cap, 22 million in dead money if he retires, which we'll probably spread over 2022 and 2023 and just get an 11 million hit in 2021.
Thanks...

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Posted 31 January 2021 - 12:15 AM

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 31 January 2021 - 12:13 AM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 31 January 2021 - 12:07 AM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 11:59 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:57 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 11:52 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:49 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 11:42 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:15 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 10:14 PM, said:

Stafford to Rams for Goff, 2 first rounders (2022 and 23) and a third rounder (21)
Stafford isn't much better than Goff and he's older, gets injured now and his contract isn't much different to Goofs. Rams got fleeced!
First of all, the Rams had lost faith in a QB they were committed to for at least two years with $43 million guaranteed, who they needed to get rid of.   Secondly, Stafford had been in a situation that was a clusterfuck for a long time and had outperformed Goff by a substantial margin in context.  Despite their age differences Stafford will be an NFL starter after Goff is.   The Rams are built to win now and this gives them a better chance to do so.  All IMO of course.
If the Saints had traded a 2nd rounder for Stafford, I would think it was an ok deal, a 3rd and I would have been happier.
Now imagine if you had a quickly fading Brees with $43 million guaranteed over the next two years.

According to reports, there were six teams with offers including 2021 #1s making the offer.
Washington offered a better deal but Stafford wanted to go to LA so they did him a favour.

We've already done that with Brees for the last 2 years.
What did WAS offer?
I think they offered the same but Washington has a first this year so that's deemed a better deal.

If Brees comes back this year it's 36 million against the cap, 22 million in dead money if he retires, which we'll probably spread over 2022 and 2023 and just get an 11 million hit in 2021.
Thanks...
What are the Dolphins going to do? Will they trade for Watson? It might cost 4 first round picks plus Tua?

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Posted 31 January 2021 - 12:17 AM

View Posttreeduck, on 31 January 2021 - 12:15 AM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 31 January 2021 - 12:13 AM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 31 January 2021 - 12:07 AM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 11:59 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:57 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 11:52 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:49 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 11:42 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 30 January 2021 - 11:15 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 30 January 2021 - 10:14 PM, said:

Stafford to Rams for Goff, 2 first rounders (2022 and 23) and a third rounder (21)
Stafford isn't much better than Goff and he's older, gets injured now and his contract isn't much different to Goofs. Rams got fleeced!
First of all, the Rams had lost faith in a QB they were committed to for at least two years with $43 million guaranteed, who they needed to get rid of.   Secondly, Stafford had been in a situation that was a clusterfuck for a long time and had outperformed Goff by a substantial margin in context.  Despite their age differences Stafford will be an NFL starter after Goff is.   The Rams are built to win now and this gives them a better chance to do so.  All IMO of course.
If the Saints had traded a 2nd rounder for Stafford, I would think it was an ok deal, a 3rd and I would have been happier.
Now imagine if you had a quickly fading Brees with $43 million guaranteed over the next two years.

According to reports, there were six teams with offers including 2021 #1s making the offer.
Washington offered a better deal but Stafford wanted to go to LA so they did him a favour.

We've already done that with Brees for the last 2 years.
What did WAS offer?
I think they offered the same but Washington has a first this year so that's deemed a better deal.

If Brees comes back this year it's 36 million against the cap, 22 million in dead money if he retires, which we'll probably spread over 2022 and 2023 and just get an 11 million hit in 2021.
Thanks...
What are the Dolphins going to do? Will they trade for Watson? It might cost 4 first round picks plus Tua?
I've heard the two #1s from this year, 3 and 18, and a second or third next year plus Tua.  If that's the package I hope they stand pat, though I'd hate to see him go to the Jets.




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