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Why was not the RUSH album ever remixed with Neil on the drums?


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I had no idea Rutsey lived into 2008. I thought he died in the ‘70s.

 

He remained friends with Alex in particular.

 

The touring history book mentions him hanging out with the band backstage in Toronto on the Presto tour I think.

 

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I'm fine with the first album existing as it was, as a snapshot of what Rush was in its early days. Although I wish "The Loser" had ever been recorded in the studio.

 

It's easily my least listened-to Rush album (besides Feedback) and I don't think having Neil replicate the drum parts would have changed that. Just seems like they had better things to do with their time and resources.

 

No need to add Neil to the first album. It was a part of the history of the band. Don't re-create history.

 

Yep. The first album is Lee-Lifeson-Rutsey. A lot of Rush fans have a soft spot for that debut album -- it's raw and youthful and loud, and Rutsey is big a part of that. No reason to erase him from Rush's history. Alex and Geddy aren't like Eddie Van Halen and the way he's treated Michael Anthony in recent years.

 

We have several live versions of a few of those debut album songs with Neil on drums, and that's good enough.

 

When Geddy was on the Eddie Trunk show and asked to rank the first 9 albums he put the debut in the middle. Clearly he also remembers it fondly.

 

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He played many of the songs in concerts. Just wish they had studio remixed or re-recorded it with him playing.

Could it be because those songs were recorded with a different drummer and the members of Rush felt it would be extremely disrespectful to that drummer's memory to do so?

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Many bands re-record albums just because they can.

 

Many bands aren't Rush. It's not what they do.

 

Really? They re-recorded Vapor Trails

Nope. They remixed/remastered it.

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I love the debut. my first exposure to the group and to alter it would amount to sacrilege for me.

 

others would say, you need to know when to stop polishing a turd.

 

Perhaps they considered it but then said f@#K it and released feedback..........

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I love the first album and listen to it almost as much as all the rest. And John Rutsey's drumming was fantastic!

I have often thought that auditioning a replacement drummer was about finding a drummer as good or better than Rutsey.

 

How lucky we are that the bar was already set high for the next 40 years.

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Adding Neil's playing to the first album?

 

That would have been a shitty, Sharon Osborne kind of thing to do.

 

Which is exactly what she did with the first 2 Ozzy albums at one point. Total douche move.

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Because why on earth would they want to?

So they can brick wall it and put it together with the Vapor Trails brick wall and the Snakes & Arrows brick wall and the Clockwork Angels brick wall and create the four walls of the caves of XANADU!

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Here are the notes to a re-recorded album by Cheap Trick

 

Cheap Trick - The Unreleased Steve Albini Sessions

60m44s

 

Studio recording > ? > shn > wav > flac frontend level 8 > flac

 

Tracks:

01 - Hello There

02 - Big Eyes

03 - Downed

04 - I Want You to Want Me

05 - You're All Talk

06 - Oh Caroline

07 - Clock Strikes Ten

08 - Southern Girls

09 - Come On, Come On

10 - So Good to See You

11 - Fan Club

12 - I Want You to Want Me (alternate)

13 - Can't Hold On

14 - I'm Losing You (Lennon)

15 - Oh Caroline (alternate)

 

Tracks 1-10 are the "In Color" album re-recorded. Tracks 11-15 are outtakes and alternates.

 

From the original compiler:

- On the "Rockline 2003" show, someone called in and asked the band for the

history behind this disc, and Bun E. Carlos gave the explanation. The "In

Color" album was produced by Tom Werman, but the band always felt that Werman

screwed up the album. "He made it safe for radio, but the album sounds like

it was done in a cardboard box." So about five years ago [late 1990s] they were in the

studio hanging around with the producer Steve Albini, and had nothing to do

for a few days, so they said "Yeah, that would be fun to redo that." So they

started re-recording the songs. They have not finished it yet, haven't gotten

all the harmonies or instruments on it yet, but someday they might finish it

and piggyback release it as a bonus disc with something else.

 

 

Would love to have something like this in Rush's vault

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Here are the notes to a re-recorded album by Cheap Trick

 

Cheap Trick - The Unreleased Steve Albini Sessions

60m44s

 

Studio recording > ? > shn > wav > flac frontend level 8 > flac

 

Tracks:

01 - Hello There

02 - Big Eyes

03 - Downed

04 - I Want You to Want Me

05 - You're All Talk

06 - Oh Caroline

07 - Clock Strikes Ten

08 - Southern Girls

09 - Come On, Come On

10 - So Good to See You

11 - Fan Club

12 - I Want You to Want Me (alternate)

13 - Can't Hold On

14 - I'm Losing You (Lennon)

15 - Oh Caroline (alternate)

 

Tracks 1-10 are the "In Color" album re-recorded. Tracks 11-15 are outtakes and alternates.

 

From the original compiler:

- On the "Rockline 2003" show, someone called in and asked the band for the

history behind this disc, and Bun E. Carlos gave the explanation. The "In

Color" album was produced by Tom Werman, but the band always felt that Werman

screwed up the album. "He made it safe for radio, but the album sounds like

it was done in a cardboard box." So about five years ago [late 1990s] they were in the

studio hanging around with the producer Steve Albini, and had nothing to do

for a few days, so they said "Yeah, that would be fun to redo that." So they

started re-recording the songs. They have not finished it yet, haven't gotten

all the harmonies or instruments on it yet, but someday they might finish it

and piggyback release it as a bonus disc with something else.

 

 

Would love to have something like this in Rush's vault

 

Other than adding more guitars to Signals or warming up the coldness of GUP, I'm not sure what else they would need to touch up.

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Here are the notes to a re-recorded album by Cheap Trick

 

Cheap Trick - The Unreleased Steve Albini Sessions

60m44s

 

Studio recording > ? > shn > wav > flac frontend level 8 > flac

 

Tracks:

01 - Hello There

02 - Big Eyes

03 - Downed

04 - I Want You to Want Me

05 - You're All Talk

06 - Oh Caroline

07 - Clock Strikes Ten

08 - Southern Girls

09 - Come On, Come On

10 - So Good to See You

11 - Fan Club

12 - I Want You to Want Me (alternate)

13 - Can't Hold On

14 - I'm Losing You (Lennon)

15 - Oh Caroline (alternate)

 

Tracks 1-10 are the "In Color" album re-recorded. Tracks 11-15 are outtakes and alternates.

 

From the original compiler:

- On the "Rockline 2003" show, someone called in and asked the band for the

history behind this disc, and Bun E. Carlos gave the explanation. The "In

Color" album was produced by Tom Werman, but the band always felt that Werman

screwed up the album. "He made it safe for radio, but the album sounds like

it was done in a cardboard box." So about five years ago [late 1990s] they were in the

studio hanging around with the producer Steve Albini, and had nothing to do

for a few days, so they said "Yeah, that would be fun to redo that." So they

started re-recording the songs. They have not finished it yet, haven't gotten

all the harmonies or instruments on it yet, but someday they might finish it

and piggyback release it as a bonus disc with something else.

 

 

Would love to have something like this in Rush's vault

 

Other than adding more guitars to Signals or warming up the coldness of GUP, I'm not sure what else they would need to touch up.

 

I’d love remixes of HYF Presto, COS and Signals.

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