blueschica Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 . . . And then vote that he's not playing well enough! :o Apparently Joey Kramer and Aerosmith are on the outs with each other right now. I had heard he had some kind of injury last spring but I didn't realize it had gotten to this level. I hope they can work it out. https://ultimateclassicrock.com/aerosmith-joey-kramer-lawsuit-response/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopid Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 D r a m a 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 He probably isn’t playing well enough. There’s no benefit in the other members failing him on the audition. If that’s all true, he should’ve taken himself out of the running so to speak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunter Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I've never been the biggest Aerosmith fan, but I did read a couple of biographies about them. He was always considered the weakest link musically, followed by Tom Hamilton. Steven Tyler actually can out-drum him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Same thing happened to Bill Ward when Sabbath "reunited" for 13. I don't like this, to be honest. No one is going to see Aerosmith to watch virtuoso performances. Unless there's something else going on, Kramer should be their drummer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RushFanForever Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I think it's greed, paranoia, and social dominance that corrupt the group entirely when one of the members is ganged up on by the other's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbanezJem Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 That`s when a band has become just a hard-nosed business... seems wrong. I get it when band members fall out but if Def Leppard could carry on, surely there`s a way? Hell, Fleetwood Mac have a second drummer with full kit next to Mick! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible airwave Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) Aerosmith needs to just call it a day. Steven Tyler is the most pathetic rock sellout ever. Screw his top 40 ass kissing. Edited January 22, 2020 by invisible airwave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Same thing happened to Bill Ward when Sabbath "reunited" for 13. I don't like this, to be honest. No one is going to see Aerosmith to watch virtuoso performances. Unless there's something else going on, Kramer should be their drummer. I've always wanted to see Aerosmith. That said, I would be kinda disappointed if it was without Joey Kramer, one of my favorite "in-the-pocket" players. Honestly it seems like everyone has to take a turn being out the the band with them, for now that's Joey. :( 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 . . . And then vote that he's not playing well enough! :o Apparently Joey Kramer and Aerosmith are on the outs with each other right now. I had heard he had some kind of injury last spring but I didn't realize it had gotten to this level. I hope they can work it out. https://ultimateclas...wsuit-response/ I hope this band retires. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 . . . And then vote that he's not playing well enough! :o Apparently Joey Kramer and Aerosmith are on the outs with each other right now. I had heard he had some kind of injury last spring but I didn't realize it had gotten to this level. I hope they can work it out. https://ultimateclas...wsuit-response/ I hope this band retires. After I see them someday! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 . . . And then vote that he's not playing well enough! :o Apparently Joey Kramer and Aerosmith are on the outs with each other right now. I had heard he had some kind of injury last spring but I didn't realize it had gotten to this level. I hope they can work it out. https://ultimateclas...wsuit-response/ I hope this band retires. After I see them someday! Hahahaha! Ok "Analog Kid!" See them while you can. I'm done. I saw Guns And Roses open for them in 1987. GNR blew them off the stage. Even Axl's mic went out. Axl had a temper tantrum and put his mic stand through the amp and walked off stage. I heard two GNR songs as instrumentals that night. EPIC! Signed, MAMA KIN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Same thing happened to Bill Ward when Sabbath "reunited" for 13. I don't like this, to be honest. No one is going to see Aerosmith to watch virtuoso performances. Unless there's something else going on, Kramer should be their drummer. I've always wanted to see Aerosmith. That said, I would be kinda disappointed if it was without Joey Kramer, one of my favorite "in-the-pocket" players. Honestly it seems like everyone has to take a turn being out the the band with them, for now that's Joey. :( If you get a chance, you should. I've seen them about 4 or 5 times between 1985 and 1994. Great live show. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 . . . And then vote that he's not playing well enough! :o Apparently Joey Kramer and Aerosmith are on the outs with each other right now. I had heard he had some kind of injury last spring but I didn't realize it had gotten to this level. I hope they can work it out. https://ultimateclas...wsuit-response/ I hope this band retires. After I see them someday! Yeah, you don't want to miss it if Tyler falls off stage again or Joe Perry collapses due to dehydration one more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrinx Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I was lucky enough to see them in the 70's - one of the best rock bands of all time in their hey day. They are a caricature of themselves now. They always treated Joey like crap, especially Steven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry1973 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Is the video out there? I'd like to see it. Maybe he can't play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custom55 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Aerosmith have a bunch of dates coming up in Vegas, starting next week. I guess they have recruited a new drummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrinx Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 yep a judge ruled he cannot even audition for the band he was with for 50 years. BS to treaty him like that. I am a huge fan and consider some of their early lps some of the best of all time. I am done with Aerosmith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 yep a judge ruled he cannot even audition for the band he was with for 50 years. BS to treaty him like that. I am a huge fan and consider some of their early lps some of the best of all time. I am done with Aerosmith I'm not done with them, but this is really nasty of the other 4 guys. I know there are a couple records from the 70/80 crossover period without all five of them, but to me Aerosmith is really those five guys and no one else. They're one of the few bands that up until now managed to keep that classic lineup for most of their career, and that classic lineup was also the one they recorded their debut under so it's very long standing. It's just sad to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 i was never huge fan. i think they are a fun band but nothing that took my breath away but this is just sad. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 yep a judge ruled he cannot even audition for the band he was with for 50 years. BS to treaty him like that. I am a huge fan and consider some of their early lps some of the best of all time. I am done with Aerosmith Not exactly. Kramer filed a suit to "enjoin" Aerosmith from performing at the Grammys without him. To have a judge do that, he'd have to prove he would likely win on his claim the band violated their agreement, and he would be irreparably harmed by not performing at the Grammys. The band claimed he wouldn't be ready to perform adequately by then, that he hasn't played with them on a number of occasions recently, and that his playing has dropped off recently. The judge ruled that because it wasn't obvious right now that Kramer would win, he wouldn't enjoin Aerosmith from performing without him. That said, what they're doing to him stinks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 yep a judge ruled he cannot even audition for the band he was with for 50 years. BS to treaty him like that. I am a huge fan and consider some of their early lps some of the best of all time. I am done with Aerosmith The judge was paid off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 As if we need any further evidence that the guys in Aerosmith are dooshbags. Let us not forget how badly they treated Rush in the 70's. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrinx Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Thanks for the clarification Rick. Either way it sucks. As previously posted the strength of this band was staying together for their whole career. There were always better drummers than Joey out there, but successful bands are a sum of their parts and he was a key part of their collective career. If you read Steven's biography, it is clear he always looked at Kramer as a lesser member. But at least he didn't give him the boot....until now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible airwave Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I was lucky enough to see them in the 70's - one of the best rock bands of all time in their hey day. They are a caricature of themselves now. They always treated Joey like crap, especially Steven. He treats everyone like crap in that band. He thinks he’s Gene Simmons with his holier than thou attitude. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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