Ginger Baker not in good shape

[apetersvt]

Family is asking for prayers.

 

https://www.nme.com/news/music/cream-ginger-baker-critically-ill-hospital-family-2551376

[78jazz]

SUCKS.

[Lorraine]

He's a bit off the wall, but one helluva drummer.

 

My Lord, 80 years old!!!!!

Hard to believe.

 

I will pray for him.

 

APeters, thanks for posting this.

Edited September 25, 2019 by Lorraine

[stoopid]

Eek, no mention of him with Masters of Reality.

 

Another legend leaving us. 80 is a good run! :)

[stoopid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buYmUGdLPTU

 

Edited September 26, 2019 by stoopid

[Nova Carmina]

I saw Masters of Reality live in '94, I think, opening for Alice In Chains. I really liked them, so I bought the album (Sufferbus) and only then realized it was Ginger Baker. Some fun stuff.

 

The Alice show, btw, was a disaster: they left the stage after three songs, came back, played one more, and left again. Show over. When people started throwing chairs, my date and I left.

[stoopid]

I saw Masters of Reality live in '94, I think, opening for Alice In Chains. I really liked them, so I bought the album (Sufferbus) and only then realized it was Ginger Baker. Some fun stuff.

 

I spent many hours in various chemically induced states of mind enjoying Sunrise on the Sufferbus. I don't play it much anymore, but it's a very important part of my musical journey.

[Nova Carmina]

 

 

I spent many hours in various chemically induced states of mind enjoying Sunrise on the Sufferbus. I don't play it much anymore, but it's a very important part of my musical journey.

 

I always especially liked "She Got Me," "Tilt-a-Whirl," and Baker's "T-USA," which is Baker doing spoken word about how crap American "tea" is.

 

I don't know enough about drumming to rank Ginger Baker anywhere, but I do recognize where Cream fits in the pantheon, and he'll surely always be remembered as one of the greats.

[78jazz]

Nova, I would give Beware of Mr. Baker a watch. Neil is in it!

[driventotheedge]

I saw Masters of Reality live in '94, I think, opening for Alice In Chains. I really liked them, so I bought the album (Sufferbus) and only then realized it was Ginger Baker. Some fun stuff.

 

The Alice show, btw, was a disaster: they left the stage after three songs, came back, played one more, and left again. Show over. When people started throwing chairs, my date and I left.

Assume Layne was in terrible shape and that's why it went as it did.

[Three Eyes]

Ginger Baker not in good shape

 

But you should see the other guy.

[chemistry1973]

[vaportrailer]

Always loved what he did on this:

 

 

http://www.drummertalk.org/wp-content/uploads/GingerBaker.jpg

[theredtamasrule]

Baker is an AMAZING drummer. Tons of swing, very unique sound...instantly recognizable. Totally shocked he’s still alive considering his self abuse.

[Nova Carmina]

Nova, I would give Beware of Mr. Baker a watch. Neil is in it!

 

Alright, so on 78jazz's recommendation, I watched Beware of Mr. Baker. I have some thoughts.

 

1. Wow, what an a**hole.

 

2. Wow, what a varied career this guy has had.

 

3. It's almost amazing how many people he treated terribly who have nice things to say about his talent, ambition, and range.

 

4. I think I got lung cancer just from watching him chain smoke.

 

5. His second wife was the sister of his daughter's boyfriend!

 

6. I would recommend this documentary; it was quite good, even if the narrator was bit of a drip (he earned his access, though, that's for sure).

 

7. Godspeed, Ginger.

[Lorraine]

Nova, I would give Beware of Mr. Baker a watch. Neil is in it!

 

Alright, so on 78jazz's recommendation, I watched Beware of Mr. Baker. I have some thoughts.

 

1. Wow, what an a**hole.

 

2. Wow, what a varied career this guy has had.

 

3. It's almost amazing how many people he treated terribly who have nice things to say about his talent, ambition, and range.

 

4. I think I got lung cancer just from watching him chain smoke.

 

5. His second wife was the sister of his daughter's boyfriend!

 

6. I would recommend this documentary; it was quite good, even if the narrator was bit of a drip (he earned his access, though, that's for sure).

 

7. Godspeed, Ginger.

I don't think he was ever playing with a full deck, and all the drugs made it worse.

Edited September 27, 2019 by Lorraine

[laughedatbytime]

Nova, I would give Beware of Mr. Baker a watch. Neil is in it!

 

Alright, so on 78jazz's recommendation, I watched Beware of Mr. Baker. I have some thoughts.

 

1. Wow, what an a**hole.

 

2. Wow, what a varied career this guy has had.

 

3. It's almost amazing how many people he treated terribly who have nice things to say about his talent, ambition, and range.

 

4. I think I got lung cancer just from watching him chain smoke.

 

5. His second wife was the sister of his daughter's boyfriend!

 

6. I would recommend this documentary; it was quite good, even if the narrator was bit of a drip (he earned his access, though, that's for sure).

 

7. Godspeed, Ginger.

Nope. Not going there. :outtahere:

Edited September 28, 2019 by laughedatbytime

[HemiBeers]

“If a plane went down and there was one survivor, it would be Ginger,” says his first wife, Elizabeth Ann Baker. “The devil takes care of his own.

 

- Rolling Stone article "the Devil and Ginger Baker"

[78jazz]

Nova, I would give Beware of Mr. Baker a watch. Neil is in it!

 

Alright, so on 78jazz's recommendation, I watched Beware of Mr. Baker. I have some thoughts.

 

1. Wow, what an a**hole.

 

2. Wow, what a varied career this guy has had.

 

3. It's almost amazing how many people he treated terribly who have nice things to say about his talent, ambition, and range.

 

4. I think I got lung cancer just from watching him chain smoke.

 

5. His second wife was the sister of his daughter's boyfriend!

 

6. I would recommend this documentary; it was quite good, even if the narrator was bit of a drip (he earned his access, though, that's for sure).

 

7. Godspeed, Ginger.

 

Definitely #7. I think his character is less than ideal, but as a drummer he was/is one of the most important in the history of rock music.

 

Also, +1 to Lorraine.

[Nova Carmina]

“If a plane went down and there was one survivor, it would be Ginger,” says his first wife, Elizabeth Ann Baker. “The devil takes care of his own.

 

- Rolling Stone article "the Devil and Ginger Baker"

 

Yeah, she's quoted saying that in the documentary, too . . . What that woman must have gone through . . .

[Three Eyes]

Here's another group from the 60s with a Ginger.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz7gr4hSkNQ

[RushFanForever]

Awhile back, someone I knew that later became a friend of mine was playing the 1994 album Going Back Home.

 

At the time, I wasn't aware that Ginger Baker had roots in jazz music at all. I just knew him as the drummer in Cream.

 

I also discovered the talents of bassist Charlie Haden and guitarist Bill Frisell.

 

This album was my first introduction into 'jazz-rock' courtesy of my friend.

 

One of the songs from Going Back Home that stood out for me is 'East Timor' that Baker wrote.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMF2WehUbWc.

 

While listening to the song, the 'spoken word' bit from Baker made me think of this as being 'Pressed Rat And Warthog' Part II.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YrNgwRqfy8

Edited September 28, 2019 by RushFanForever

[chemistry1973]

Here's another group from the 60s with a Ginger.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz7gr4hSkNQ

 

Now be honest - Mrs. Howell is a little hotter these days....everyone admit it.

[Lorraine]

Has anyone heard how he is doing?

[grep]

Here's another group from the 60s with a Ginger.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz7gr4hSkNQ

 

Forget the girls. Look at that gorgeous white P bass. I need that!

Edited September 30, 2019 by grep