Jump to content


Anyway, We Delivered The Bomb....


  • Please log in to reply
27 replies to this topic

#1 Principled Man

Principled Man

    Mathematical Porn Star

  • Members *
  • 12583 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Western Wisconsin
  • Interests:Rush
    Packers, Brewers & Badgers
    Monty Python
    Cincinnati Chili
    Refreshing Beverages
    Golf, Bowling, and Blu-ray
    TRAVEL
    Getting Slim & Trim
    The Universe!!

Posted 30 July 2019 - 04:12 PM

July 30, 1945



Posted Image

Japanese submarine slammed two torpedoes into her side, Chief. We was comin’ back from the island of Tinian to Leyte. We’d just delivered the bomb. The Hiroshima bomb. Eleven hundred men went into the water. Vessel went down in 12 minutes.

Didn’t see the first shark for about a half-hour. Tiger. 13-footer. You know how you know that in the water, Chief? You can tell by lookin’ from the dorsal to the tail. What we didn’t know, was that our bomb mission was so secret, no distress signal had been sent. They didn’t even list us overdue for a week. Very first light, Chief, sharks come cruisin’ by, so we formed ourselves into tight groups. It was sorta like you see in the calendars, you know the infantry squares in the old calendars like the Battle of Waterloo and the idea was the shark come to the nearest man, that man he starts poundin’ and hollerin’ and sometimes that shark he go away… but sometimes he wouldn’t go away.

Sometimes that shark looks right at ya. Right into your eyes. And the thing about a shark is he’s got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at ya, he doesn’t even seem to be livin’… ’til he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then… ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. The ocean turns red, and despite all your poundin’ and your hollerin’ those sharks come in and… they rip you to pieces.

You know by the end of that first dawn, lost a hundred men. I don’t know how many sharks there were, maybe a thousand. I do know how many men, they averaged six an hour. Thursday mornin’, Chief, I bumped into a friend of mine, Herbie Robinson from Cleveland. Baseball player. Boson’s mate. I thought he was asleep. I reached over to wake him up. He bobbed up, down in the water, he was like a kinda top. Upended. Well, he’d been bitten in half below the waist.

At noon on the fifth day, a Lockheed Ventura swung in low and he spotted us, a young pilot, lot younger than Mr. Hooper here, anyway he spotted us and a few hours later a big ol’ fat PBY come down and started to pick us up. You know that was the time I was most frightened. Waitin’ for my turn. I’ll never put on a lifejacket again. So, eleven hundred men went into the water. 316 men come out, the sharks took the rest, June the 29th, 1945.

Anyway, we delivered the bomb.


Posted Image




[Note: Quint's speech has a few inaccuracies regarding the Indianapolis tragedy.  Regardless, it was one of the most powerful scenes in all of film history.  ]

Sponsored Post

#2 blueschica

blueschica

    What the Puck?

  • Members
  • 9241 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Central Pa
  • Interests:Camping, gardening, muscle cars, NASCAR, Rush!

Posted 30 July 2019 - 04:17 PM

The fate of the men on the Indianapolis was horrible. My dad was in the navy over a decade later and they still talked about it. There was a show about it one time on History or Discovery and he wouldn't watch it.

#3 Principled Man

Principled Man

    Mathematical Porn Star

  • Members *
  • 12583 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Western Wisconsin
  • Interests:Rush
    Packers, Brewers & Badgers
    Monty Python
    Cincinnati Chili
    Refreshing Beverages
    Golf, Bowling, and Blu-ray
    TRAVEL
    Getting Slim & Trim
    The Universe!!

Posted 30 July 2019 - 04:21 PM

View Postblueschica, on 30 July 2019 - 04:17 PM, said:

The fate of the men on the Indianapolis was horrible. My dad was in the navy over a decade later and they still talked about it. There was a show about it one time on History or Discovery and he wouldn't watch it.

I totally understand.  Really, what is the point of reliving it?  :huh:

#4 vaportrailer

vaportrailer

    A Passenger to Bangkok

  • Members
  • 6641 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Canada
  • Interests:music, reading, travel

Posted 30 July 2019 - 04:52 PM

View PostPrincipled Man, on 30 July 2019 - 04:12 PM, said:

July 30, 1945



Posted Image

Japanese submarine slammed two torpedoes into her side, Chief. We was comin’ back from the island of Tinian to Leyte. We’d just delivered the bomb. The Hiroshima bomb. Eleven hundred men went into the water. Vessel went down in 12 minutes.

Didn’t see the first shark for about a half-hour. Tiger. 13-footer. You know how you know that in the water, Chief? You can tell by lookin’ from the dorsal to the tail. What we didn’t know, was that our bomb mission was so secret, no distress signal had been sent. They didn’t even list us overdue for a week. Very first light, Chief, sharks come cruisin’ by, so we formed ourselves into tight groups. It was sorta like you see in the calendars, you know the infantry squares in the old calendars like the Battle of Waterloo and the idea was the shark come to the nearest man, that man he starts poundin’ and hollerin’ and sometimes that shark he go away… but sometimes he wouldn’t go away.

Sometimes that shark looks right at ya. Right into your eyes. And the thing about a shark is he’s got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at ya, he doesn’t even seem to be livin’… ’til he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then… ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. The ocean turns red, and despite all your poundin’ and your hollerin’ those sharks come in and… they rip you to pieces.

You know by the end of that first dawn, lost a hundred men. I don’t know how many sharks there were, maybe a thousand. I do know how many men, they averaged six an hour. Thursday mornin’, Chief, I bumped into a friend of mine, Herbie Robinson from Cleveland. Baseball player. Boson’s mate. I thought he was asleep. I reached over to wake him up. He bobbed up, down in the water, he was like a kinda top. Upended. Well, he’d been bitten in half below the waist.

At noon on the fifth day, a Lockheed Ventura swung in low and he spotted us, a young pilot, lot younger than Mr. Hooper here, anyway he spotted us and a few hours later a big ol’ fat PBY come down and started to pick us up. You know that was the time I was most frightened. Waitin’ for my turn. I’ll never put on a lifejacket again. So, eleven hundred men went into the water. 316 men come out, the sharks took the rest, June the 29th, 1945.

Anyway, we delivered the bomb.


Posted Image




[Note: Quint's speech has a few inaccuracies regarding the Indianapolis tragedy.  Regardless, it was one of the most powerful scenes in all of film history.  ]

Apparently the speech (which wasn't in the book) went thru quite a few drafts, the final one being written by Robert Shaw (who was also a writer).

Posted Image

If you haven't read it, Carl Gottlieb's "The Jaws Log" is a great read about the making of the movie.

Any good books about the Indianapolis?

#5 Principled Man

Principled Man

    Mathematical Porn Star

  • Members *
  • 12583 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Western Wisconsin
  • Interests:Rush
    Packers, Brewers & Badgers
    Monty Python
    Cincinnati Chili
    Refreshing Beverages
    Golf, Bowling, and Blu-ray
    TRAVEL
    Getting Slim & Trim
    The Universe!!

Posted 30 July 2019 - 05:19 PM

View Postvaportrailer, on 30 July 2019 - 04:52 PM, said:

Apparently the speech (which wasn't in the book) went thru quite a few drafts, the final one being written by Robert Shaw (who was also a writer).

Posted Image



I've read that the initial draft was TEN pages long.... :o :o

#6 blueschica

blueschica

    What the Puck?

  • Members
  • 9241 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Central Pa
  • Interests:Camping, gardening, muscle cars, NASCAR, Rush!

Posted 30 July 2019 - 05:24 PM

View Postvaportrailer, on 30 July 2019 - 04:52 PM, said:

View PostPrincipled Man, on 30 July 2019 - 04:12 PM, said:

July 30, 1945



Posted Image

Japanese submarine slammed two torpedoes into her side, Chief. We was comin’ back from the island of Tinian to Leyte. We’d just delivered the bomb. The Hiroshima bomb. Eleven hundred men went into the water. Vessel went down in 12 minutes.

Didn’t see the first shark for about a half-hour. Tiger. 13-footer. You know how you know that in the water, Chief? You can tell by lookin’ from the dorsal to the tail. What we didn’t know, was that our bomb mission was so secret, no distress signal had been sent. They didn’t even list us overdue for a week. Very first light, Chief, sharks come cruisin’ by, so we formed ourselves into tight groups. It was sorta like you see in the calendars, you know the infantry squares in the old calendars like the Battle of Waterloo and the idea was the shark come to the nearest man, that man he starts poundin’ and hollerin’ and sometimes that shark he go away… but sometimes he wouldn’t go away.

Sometimes that shark looks right at ya. Right into your eyes. And the thing about a shark is he’s got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at ya, he doesn’t even seem to be livin’… ’til he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then… ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. The ocean turns red, and despite all your poundin’ and your hollerin’ those sharks come in and… they rip you to pieces.

You know by the end of that first dawn, lost a hundred men. I don’t know how many sharks there were, maybe a thousand. I do know how many men, they averaged six an hour. Thursday mornin’, Chief, I bumped into a friend of mine, Herbie Robinson from Cleveland. Baseball player. Boson’s mate. I thought he was asleep. I reached over to wake him up. He bobbed up, down in the water, he was like a kinda top. Upended. Well, he’d been bitten in half below the waist.

At noon on the fifth day, a Lockheed Ventura swung in low and he spotted us, a young pilot, lot younger than Mr. Hooper here, anyway he spotted us and a few hours later a big ol’ fat PBY come down and started to pick us up. You know that was the time I was most frightened. Waitin’ for my turn. I’ll never put on a lifejacket again. So, eleven hundred men went into the water. 316 men come out, the sharks took the rest, June the 29th, 1945.

Anyway, we delivered the bomb.


Posted Image




[Note: Quint's speech has a few inaccuracies regarding the Indianapolis tragedy.  Regardless, it was one of the most powerful scenes in all of film history.  ]

Apparently the speech (which wasn't in the book) went thru quite a few drafts, the final one being written by Robert Shaw (who was also a writer).

Posted Image

If you haven't read it, Carl Gottlieb's "The Jaws Log" is a great read about the making of the movie.

Any good books about the Indianapolis?

When I worked at the town library, we used to recommend this one, although I haven't read it myself . . .

Posted Image

#7 vaportrailer

vaportrailer

    A Passenger to Bangkok

  • Members
  • 6641 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Canada
  • Interests:music, reading, travel

Posted 30 July 2019 - 05:53 PM

View PostPrincipled Man, on 30 July 2019 - 05:19 PM, said:

View Postvaportrailer, on 30 July 2019 - 04:52 PM, said:

Apparently the speech (which wasn't in the book) went thru quite a few drafts, the final one being written by Robert Shaw (who was also a writer).

Posted Image



I've read that the initial draft was TEN pages long.... :o :o

The "Indianapolis" speech made everyone nervous; it was two-and-a-half pages long, an immense chunk of dialogue, and absolutely essential to understanding Quint's character and obsession with sharks. [Howard] Sackler worked on it. I worked on it. [Spielberg] worked on it. John Milius...As far as I'm concerned, the author of the USS Indianapolis speech was Robert Shaw.
To the best of my recollection, Shaw collated the research and examined the drafts of the speech...I can remember Robert joined us after dinner. He said, "I've been working on that troublesome speech," and added that he had written something he thought might work. He said he'd like to read it to us, pulled some paper from his pocket, and read, almost verbatim, the speech that appears in the movie.
(Carl Gottlieb, The Jaws Log)

They shot the scene twice. In the first, Shaw was drunk and "his reading of the speech was passionate, but not accurate," so he sobered up and did a re-shoot the next day. The finished scene uses takes from both days.

Posted Image
"Okay, so we drink to our legs!"

#8 Maverick

Maverick

    SWEDGIN!

  • Members *
  • 25004 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Low Earth Orbit
  • Interests:Painfully Geeky

Posted 31 July 2019 - 07:31 AM

Probably the best part of that great movie.

#9 Principled Man

Principled Man

    Mathematical Porn Star

  • Members *
  • 12583 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Western Wisconsin
  • Interests:Rush
    Packers, Brewers & Badgers
    Monty Python
    Cincinnati Chili
    Refreshing Beverages
    Golf, Bowling, and Blu-ray
    TRAVEL
    Getting Slim & Trim
    The Universe!!

Posted 31 July 2019 - 08:06 AM

View PostMaverick, on 31 July 2019 - 07:31 AM, said:

Probably the best part of that great movie.

It sets up the audience for the horror that is about to come.  One of the best setups ever.  

The underlying theme of Quint and his pending doom is brilliant.  His lifelong vendetta against sharks is evident.  He's abrasive, arrogant and cocky, but as the film progresses, we see his internal horrific fear of sharks come out more and more, until he eventually gives up and asks Hooper for help.  He even breaks out the life jackets, because he knows that they're doomed.

#10 Maverick

Maverick

    SWEDGIN!

  • Members *
  • 25004 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Low Earth Orbit
  • Interests:Painfully Geeky

Posted 31 July 2019 - 09:15 AM

View PostPrincipled Man, on 31 July 2019 - 08:06 AM, said:

View PostMaverick, on 31 July 2019 - 07:31 AM, said:

Probably the best part of that great movie.

It sets up the audience for the horror that is about to come.  One of the best setups ever.  

The underlying theme of Quint and his pending doom is brilliant.  His lifelong vendetta against sharks is evident.  He's abrasive, arrogant and cocky, but as the film progresses, we see his internal horrific fear of sharks come out more and more, until he eventually gives up and asks Hooper for help.  He even breaks out the life jackets, because he knows that they're doomed.

I think he's also carried a tremendous amount of survivor's guilt with him all those years.  He's dedicated his life to killing sharks, but I think on some level not too far down, he wants to suffer the same fate as all the crewmen who died in the water.

#11 Principled Man

Principled Man

    Mathematical Porn Star

  • Members *
  • 12583 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Western Wisconsin
  • Interests:Rush
    Packers, Brewers & Badgers
    Monty Python
    Cincinnati Chili
    Refreshing Beverages
    Golf, Bowling, and Blu-ray
    TRAVEL
    Getting Slim & Trim
    The Universe!!

Posted 31 July 2019 - 09:46 AM

View PostMaverick, on 31 July 2019 - 09:15 AM, said:

View PostPrincipled Man, on 31 July 2019 - 08:06 AM, said:

View PostMaverick, on 31 July 2019 - 07:31 AM, said:

Probably the best part of that great movie.

It sets up the audience for the horror that is about to come.  One of the best setups ever.  

The underlying theme of Quint and his pending doom is brilliant.  His lifelong vendetta against sharks is evident.  He's abrasive, arrogant and cocky, but as the film progresses, we see his internal horrific fear of sharks come out more and more, until he eventually gives up and asks Hooper for help.  He even breaks out the life jackets, because he knows that they're doomed.

I think he's also carried a tremendous amount of survivor's guilt with him all those years.  He's dedicated his life to killing sharks, but I think on some level not too far down, he wants to suffer the same fate as all the crewmen who died in the water.

That's possible.  He may have a death wish, which is why he hunts sharks for a living.  He's Ahab, waiting for his white whale to come for him.

#12 Maverick

Maverick

    SWEDGIN!

  • Members *
  • 25004 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Low Earth Orbit
  • Interests:Painfully Geeky

Posted 31 July 2019 - 01:26 PM

View PostPrincipled Man, on 31 July 2019 - 09:46 AM, said:

View PostMaverick, on 31 July 2019 - 09:15 AM, said:

View PostPrincipled Man, on 31 July 2019 - 08:06 AM, said:

View PostMaverick, on 31 July 2019 - 07:31 AM, said:

Probably the best part of that great movie.

It sets up the audience for the horror that is about to come.  One of the best setups ever.  

The underlying theme of Quint and his pending doom is brilliant.  His lifelong vendetta against sharks is evident.  He's abrasive, arrogant and cocky, but as the film progresses, we see his internal horrific fear of sharks come out more and more, until he eventually gives up and asks Hooper for help.  He even breaks out the life jackets, because he knows that they're doomed.

I think he's also carried a tremendous amount of survivor's guilt with him all those years.  He's dedicated his life to killing sharks, but I think on some level not too far down, he wants to suffer the same fate as all the crewmen who died in the water.

That's possible.  He may have a death wish, which is why he hunts sharks for a living.  He's Ahab, waiting for his white whale to come for him.

Quint as a modern day Captain Ahab is another apt analogy.

#13 edhunter

edhunter

    The Professor

  • Members *
  • 4385 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 31 July 2019 - 01:34 PM

Completely turned the movie business on its ear. Summer was usually considered down time for movies. Now it's just about their biggest period.

#14 goose

goose

    Honkin' in Nevada

  • Members *
  • 69560 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sierra Nevada foothills, East Slope
  • Interests:marxism

Posted 31 July 2019 - 02:19 PM

View Postedhunter, on 31 July 2019 - 01:34 PM, said:

Completely turned the movie business on its ear. Summer was usually considered down time for movies. Now it's just about their biggest period.
The first summer blockbuster and the first to earn $100 million in US box offices receipts.

#15 Principled Man

Principled Man

    Mathematical Porn Star

  • Members *
  • 12583 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Western Wisconsin
  • Interests:Rush
    Packers, Brewers & Badgers
    Monty Python
    Cincinnati Chili
    Refreshing Beverages
    Golf, Bowling, and Blu-ray
    TRAVEL
    Getting Slim & Trim
    The Universe!!

Posted 31 July 2019 - 03:37 PM

View Postgoose, on 31 July 2019 - 02:19 PM, said:

View Postedhunter, on 31 July 2019 - 01:34 PM, said:

Completely turned the movie business on its ear. Summer was usually considered down time for movies. Now it's just about their biggest period.
The first summer blockbuster and the first to earn $100 million in US box offices receipts.

When the revenue is adjusted for inflation, Jaws is still #7 in all-time domestic box office revenue.  $1.15 billion

#16 edhunter

edhunter

    The Professor

  • Members *
  • 4385 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 31 July 2019 - 03:41 PM

When I was a kid and we first got HBO I must have watched Jaws 2 about a dozen times. That and Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band with the Bee Gees and Peter Frampton

#17 Nova Carmina

Nova Carmina

    Prime Mover

  • Members
  • 963 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Missouri USA
  • Interests:Rush, hiking, reading, golf, soccer

Posted 31 July 2019 - 04:15 PM

Jaws, Close Encounters, Star Wars -- that's a mid-70s run to match Rush's!

#18 Principled Man

Principled Man

    Mathematical Porn Star

  • Members *
  • 12583 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Western Wisconsin
  • Interests:Rush
    Packers, Brewers & Badgers
    Monty Python
    Cincinnati Chili
    Refreshing Beverages
    Golf, Bowling, and Blu-ray
    TRAVEL
    Getting Slim & Trim
    The Universe!!

Posted 31 July 2019 - 04:18 PM

View Postedhunter, on 31 July 2019 - 03:41 PM, said:

When I was a kid and we first got HBO I must have watched Jaws 2 about a dozen times. That and Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band with the Bee Gees and Peter Frampton

I'm pretty sure that Jaws was the first film I saw in a regular theater (not a drive-in), and without Ma and Pa there with me.

I was 13, and what an experience it was!!  :o :o   I still have good recollection of how I felt during the most horrific scenes.


Posted Image

#19 Maverick

Maverick

    SWEDGIN!

  • Members *
  • 25004 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Low Earth Orbit
  • Interests:Painfully Geeky

Posted 31 July 2019 - 08:58 PM

I think Jaws might have been my first movie seen in the theater. I was 8 years old.

Wait, when did Rocky come out?

What about Bambi?

Shit, I can't remember these days.

#20 Nova Carmina

Nova Carmina

    Prime Mover

  • Members
  • 963 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Missouri USA
  • Interests:Rush, hiking, reading, golf, soccer

Posted 31 July 2019 - 09:06 PM

Well, I think Bambi came out in like 1948, but I don't know how often/when it was re-released. I think Rocky was '76




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users