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#1 OldRUSHfan

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 11:41 AM

I've noticed that a lot of RUSH fans dislike the "Roll The Bones" song.  I would like to know why this is?  I like the song fine, and the Lyrics are inventive [for RUSH at the time of The Album's release] My Qualifications are, started playing percussion when I was 6-7( Mom's giant fork and Spoon wall decorations from the kitchen on her Tupperware containers) Took Piano for 7 years, and  starting in 5th grade, in the school band, percussion, all instruments, drums, keyboards etc.  So tell me please WHY do these people HATE "Roll The Bones"?
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Posted 18 May 2019 - 11:52 AM

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 11:57 AM

I like it.

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 11:57 AM

BECAUSE IT HAS RAPPING IN IT AND ALL RAP IS BAD!!!!!!! Then again, some Rush "fans" stopped listening when Signals came out and have never heard Roll The Bones.


(in this case, the rapping isn't very good but there is a lot of rap music that is great)

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 11:59 AM

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Why do some RUSH fans Hate "Roll The Bones"?

Because it's not heavy metal enough with no crushing riffs nor screaming 2112 vocals. The drums are plastic-sounding with no power and no sharpness the songs are wishy washy and too commercial and the lyrics are dopey talking about the cold war like anything had really changed going from the Soviet Union to Russia and here we are today the Russian leader is a former KGB Colonel.

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 12:02 PM

The whole album is a steaming vat of raw sewage.

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 12:02 PM

It's the rap section that gets the hate from everyone for the most part. Even though Rush is considered a prog band and all they were doing was experimenting with that part just like any prog band does with their music. Still, too many snob fans thought Rush was lowering themselves by doing rap in a song. It was just them being their goofy selfs for a minute and some fans hated it because Rush is supposed to be super serious all the time.

I love the song myself. I even sing along with the rap part.

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 01:40 PM

It's a parallax, you dig?

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 01:44 PM



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Posted 18 May 2019 - 01:50 PM

View Posttreeduck, on 18 May 2019 - 11:59 AM, said:

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Why do some RUSH fans Hate "Roll The Bones"?

Because it's not heavy metal enough with no crushing riffs nor screaming 2112 vocals. The drums are plastic-sounding with no power and no sharpness the songs are wishy washy and too commercial and the lyrics are dopey talking about the cold war like anything had really changed going from the Soviet Union to Russia and here we are today the Russian leader is a former KGB Colonel.

Once a commie, always a commie, right TD?

"Better red than dead!"

:16ton:

Edited by Lorraine, 18 May 2019 - 01:50 PM.


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Posted 18 May 2019 - 01:52 PM

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Why do some RUSH fans Hate "Roll The Bones"?

Because it's not heavy metal enough with no crushing riffs nor screaming 2112 vocals. The drums are plastic-sounding with no power and no sharpness the songs are wishy washy and too commercial and the lyrics are dopey talking about the cold war like anything had really changed going from the Soviet Union to Russia and here we are today the Russian leader is a former KGB Colonel.

Once a commie, always a commie, right TD?

"Better red than dead!"

:16ton:
And a pack of blueberry gum!

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 01:55 PM

I dislike the album as far as Rush albums go. It has gutless production and some pretty weak songwriting. I do dig a few cuts though, and the title track is one of them. Fun, funky, goofy, and a solid melody and arrangement.

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 01:56 PM

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Why do some RUSH fans Hate "Roll The Bones"?

Because it's not heavy metal enough with no crushing riffs nor screaming 2112 vocals. The drums are plastic-sounding with no power and no sharpness the songs are wishy washy and too commercial and the lyrics are dopey talking about the cold war like anything had really changed going from the Soviet Union to Russia and here we are today the Russian leader is a former KGB Colonel.

C'MON, Duck.  Neil is Neil.  He writes about the irony of Russian leaders doing a bit of PR for themselves, and trying to get the rest of the world to go along with the charade.  As far as the music goes, it is consistent with all the OTHER RUSH music, and the band is 'mimicking' minimalist Rap.  Not at that time known for metal tendencies.
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Posted 18 May 2019 - 02:07 PM

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It's the rap section that gets the hate from everyone for the most part. Even though Rush is considered a prog band and all they were doing was experimenting with that part just like any prog band does with their music. Still, too many snob fans thought Rush was lowering themselves by doing rap in a song. It was just them being their goofy selfs for a minute and some fans hated it because Rush is supposed to be super serious all the time.

I love the song myself. I even sing along with the rap part.

Fans who think like this are the REAL Fans!  Actually, REALISTIC is more the term! :Alex: :Neil: :geddy: :rush:
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Posted 18 May 2019 - 02:10 PM

View PostThree Eyes, on 18 May 2019 - 01:40 PM, said:

It's a parallax, you dig?

RUSH is into that obviously.
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Posted 18 May 2019 - 02:18 PM

It was released between Hold Your Fire and Test For Echo and it's quality fits right in with when it was released.

In truth it's not a bad song.  Especially for the era in which it was released.

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 02:21 PM

View Posttreeduck, on 18 May 2019 - 01:52 PM, said:

View PostLorraine, on 18 May 2019 - 01:50 PM, said:

View Posttreeduck, on 18 May 2019 - 11:59 AM, said:

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Why do some RUSH fans Hate "Roll The Bones"?

Because it's not heavy metal enough with no crushing riffs nor screaming 2112 vocals. The drums are plastic-sounding with no power and no sharpness the songs are wishy washy and too commercial and the lyrics are dopey talking about the cold war like anything had really changed going from the Soviet Union to Russia and here we are today the Russian leader is a former KGB Colonel.

Once a commie, always a commie, right TD?

"Better red than dead!"

:16ton:
And a pack of blueberry gum!

You got it backwards as far as Xenophobes think, Lorraine.  They believe in better DEAD than RED. [of course the Russians don't think that...]
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Posted 18 May 2019 - 02:24 PM

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View Posttreeduck, on 18 May 2019 - 01:52 PM, said:

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Why do some RUSH fans Hate "Roll The Bones"?

Because it's not heavy metal enough with no crushing riffs nor screaming 2112 vocals. The drums are plastic-sounding with no power and no sharpness the songs are wishy washy and too commercial and the lyrics are dopey talking about the cold war like anything had really changed going from the Soviet Union to Russia and here we are today the Russian leader is a former KGB Colonel.

Once a commie, always a commie, right TD?

"Better red than dead!"

:16ton:
And a pack of blueberry gum!

You got it backwards as far as Zenophobes think, Lorraine.  They believe in better DEAD than RED. [of course the Russians don't think that...]
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It's xenophobes.

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 02:25 PM

Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 02:31 PM

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View PostLorraine, on 18 May 2019 - 01:50 PM, said:

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Why do some RUSH fans Hate "Roll The Bones"?

Because it's not heavy metal enough with no crushing riffs nor screaming 2112 vocals. The drums are plastic-sounding with no power and no sharpness the songs are wishy washy and too commercial and the lyrics are dopey talking about the cold war like anything had really changed going from the Soviet Union to Russia and here we are today the Russian leader is a former KGB Colonel.

Once a commie, always a commie, right TD?

"Better red than dead!"

:16ton:
And a pack of blueberry gum!

Where did you get your Intel on Russians loving blueberry gum, Ducky?
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