RushFanForever Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) In relation to Segue Myles - Revisiting Every Rush Album In Order posts, Louder magazine has re-posted the following: Rush: a guide to their best albums This article originally appeared in Classic Rock #115 from February 2008. Any thoughts? There's a casual woman RUSH fan I know who discovered them because of me and prefers the Roll The Bones and Feedback albums. Edited December 4, 2018 by RushFanForever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 "It’s hard to believe that when Rush released their debut in 1974 everyone had them pegged as Led Zep copyists." That sentence is missing a word. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taurus Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I think they got it essential correct. Those are the broad strokes. Rush was a band that started out pretty good and were getting better every record, reaching a plateau at MP/ESL. They were not content to copy themselves and release MP II and went in a different direction. Not so alien that we couldn't recognize them, just different enough. So while the 74-81 period was spent refining this hard rock/prog rock fusion. The 82-92 period was spent on exploring this hard rock/new wavish keyboard sound. After that they settled into hard rock but without the wild abandonment of earlier records like FBN or COS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 In relation to Segue Myles - Revisiting Every Rush Album In Order posts, Louder magazine has re-posted the following: Rush: a guide to their best albums This article originally appeared in Classic Rock #115 from February 2008. Any thoughts? There's a casual woman RUSH fan I know who discovered them because of me and prefers the Roll The Bones and Feedback albums.Two very accessible albums, with the former also being their most successful album, chart-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tks95747 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Well, at least they got the runt right, although the band spawned a litter of runts, imo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rftag Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) I think they got it essential correct. Those are the broad strokes. Rush was a band that started out pretty good and were getting better every record, reaching a plateau at MP/ESL. They were not content to copy themselves and release MP II and went in a different direction. Not so alien that we couldn't recognize them, just different enough. So while the 74-81 period was spent refining this hard rock/prog rock fusion. The 82-92 period was spent on exploring this hard rock/new wavish keyboard sound. After that they settled into hard rock but without the wild abandonment of earlier records like FBN or COS I largely agree with your assessment of the article, but the article contains several dubious assertions, such as "The 82-92 period was spent on exploring this hard rock/new wavish keyboard sound." I don't think there was anything that could be considered "hard rock" in this period, and this in my opinion is precisely what alienated a lot of their fans after MP. The article does provide a reasonably accurate assessment of Rush's evolution however, and I find the author's decision to place the albums in categories of essential, superior, good, and avoid to be a better framework than simply ranking them all in a list from best to worst. I just don't agree with many of his choices as to what albums belong in each category. PeW for example, in my opinion at least, should most definitely be in the essential category. I also got the impression from some things he says that he likes Rush but it isn't a band he actually followed closely (Signals is most decidedly NOT a continuation of MP; La Villa Strangiato is not 'techno rock"; there is nothing on Snakes and Arrows that sounds like MP; etc). Edited December 5, 2018 by rftag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnoble Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Alex played keyboards on GUP, huh? And Armor & Sword will remind you of a song from the Moving Pictures era? Whaaaaaaa?....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rftag Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Alex played keyboards on GUP, huh? And Armor & Sword will remind you of a song from the Moving Pictures era? Whaaaaaaa?.......Alex played keyboards on GUP, huh? And Armor & Sword will remind you of a song from the Moving Pictures era? Whaaaaaaa?....... Thank you for pointing out that it was Snakes and Arrows that he claimed had a track that sounds like MP; I had written RTB by mistake (I've corrected the error). I have no idea why I initially wrote RTB instead of Snakes and Arrows. What possible Freudian slip may have been involved is a question I leave for psychiatrists to answer (I suspect it is simply that I'm pushing 50; my first 'senior moment'?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I think they got it essential correct. Those are the broad strokes. Rush was a band that started out pretty good and were getting better every record, reaching a plateau at MP/ESL. They were not content to copy themselves and release MP II and went in a different direction. Not so alien that we couldn't recognize them, just different enough. So while the 74-81 period was spent refining this hard rock/prog rock fusion. The 82-92 period was spent on exploring this hard rock/new wavish keyboard sound. After that they settled into hard rock but without the wild abandonment of earlier records like FBN or COS I largely agree with your assessment of the article, but the article contains several dubious assertions, such as "The 82-92 period was spent on exploring this hard rock/new wavish keyboard sound." I don't think there was anything that could be considered "hard rock" in this period, and this in my opinion is precisely what alienated a lot of their fans after MP. The article does provide a reasonably accurate assessment of Rush's evolution however, and I find the author's decision to place the albums in categories of essential, superior, good, and avoid to be a better framework than simply ranking them all in a list from best to worst. I just don't agree with many of his choices as to what albums belong in each category. PeW for example, in my opinion at least, should most definitely be in the essential category. I also got the impression from some things he says that he likes Rush but it isn't a band he actually followed closely (Signals is most decidedly NOT a continuation of MP; La Villa Strangiato is not 'techno rock"; there is nothing on Snakes and Arrows that sounds like MP; etc). I have heard several people on this forum mention that Signals to then is like MP part 2. I lost definitely don't hear it myself. The two albums are completely different. One of them being undoubtedly a masterpiece for a start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Oh good, with Rush being my favorite band for over 25 years now, I've been looking forward to what an irrelevant magazine says are their essential albums. I can finally sleep well after all these years lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Hit and miss for me. AFTK is not superior IMO, and PeW belongs in essential. I wouldn't put PoW or RtB in the good, worth exploring, category. Certainly not over the debut, or FBN, or Vapor Trails. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 And Armor & Sword will remind you of a song from the Moving Pictures era? Whaaaaaaa?.......I think the production value of S&A is comparable to MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Alex played keyboards on GUP, huh? And Armor & Sword will remind you of a song from the Moving Pictures era? Whaaaaaaa?....... I love Armor and Sword but never got a Moving Pictures feel from it. Always felt it was more along the lines of 70s prog Rush with a modern sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 And Armor & Sword will remind you of a song from the Moving Pictures era?Whaaaaaaa?.......I think the production value of S&A is comparable to MP. The hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Don’t expect the TrueRushFan™ certificate, goblet and ring if you’re complete using their list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordgalaxy Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 It took them all the way to the second choice to be wrong, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taurus Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I have heard several people on this forum mention that Signals to then is like MP part 2. I lost definitely don't hear it myself. The two albums are completely different. One of them being undoubtedly a masterpiece for a start. I'm with you - I don't hear Signals as MP II at all. A rather distinct departure, the one track that is the crossover, is Vital Signs. VS sounds like it could have been included with Signals and not sound out of place. It was like the band was giving us a sneak peak at what was in store. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Hit and miss for me. AFTK is not superior IMO, and PeW belongs in essential. I wouldn't put PoW or RtB in the good, worth exploring, category. Certainly not over the debut, or FBN, or Vapor Trails. To me aftk is the shit. So is perm waves. Totally agree about your worth exploring picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rftag Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) I have heard several people on this forum mention that Signals to then is like MP part 2. I lost definitely don't hear it myself. The two albums are completely different. One of them being undoubtedly a masterpiece for a start. I'm with you - I don't hear Signals as MP II at all. A rather distinct departure, the one track that is the crossover, is Vital Signs. VS sounds like it could have been included with Signals and not sound out of place. It was like the band was giving us a sneak peak at what was in store. Yeah, I've actually said the same thing on here before (i.e. that Vital Signs sounds like it could have been on Signals). But nothing else on MP sounds anything like Signals. And there definitely isn't anything on Signals that sounds like MP. In retrospect, knowing what was to follow MP, especially with it being the last track on MP, Vital Signs always struck me as a wink as to where they were headed. Oddly enough however it was actually the first song they recorded for MP. I have no idea whether it was the last song written for MP however. Edited December 6, 2018 by rftag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thizzellewashington Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 I wouldn't put Roll the Bones or Snakes & Arrows among their best work to recommend to people, but at that point it's splitting hairs. Nobody gets into Rush and doesn't eventually get every album. If you're not hooked by 2112 and Moving Pictures, you're not going to like the other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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