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Posted 03 November 2018 - 06:48 PM

I know people here really dig ADTOE and the self-titled but I just don't hear a lot of staying power in any of the post-portnoy stuff

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Posted 03 November 2018 - 06:56 PM

View Postbathory, on 03 November 2018 - 06:48 PM, said:

I know people here really dig ADTOE and the self-titled but I just don't hear a lot of staying power in any of the post-portnoy stuff

There's not much staying power with about half the stuff on their last couple of releases with Portnoy either. I think a change did need to be made in the band and Portnoy leaving was really the only one to be made. The band needed a shake up and they couldn't have had a bigger one happen.

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Posted 03 November 2018 - 07:17 PM

it just seems like we've ended up with the john petrucci experience now. at least it's been proven that portnoy wasn't the only guy in the band with his head up his ass

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Posted 03 November 2018 - 07:18 PM

but yeah, I don't think there's a record after SFAM that's good all the way through

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Posted 03 November 2018 - 08:23 PM

View Postbathory, on 03 November 2018 - 06:45 PM, said:

album will suck but I'll try and see them in april if they're doing SFAM

It' weird that they're doing SFAM now, since in 2013/2014 they also celebrated 15 years of the same album, and played a huge chunk of it, on the "self-titled" tour. But whatever...I never got the chance to see Scenes in full when it came out, so count me in. They'll be in Toronto on April 4th, and I'll be there. Someone in the inner circle of the band said in their forum that the setlist will not be a rehash of what they did on the SFAM tour, so I'm curious.

DT is one of those bands that I love, but also agree with a lot of the criticism towards them. The only time my interest level was so low that I missed the tour was when The Astonishing came out. I saw the Images, Words and Beyond last year, and while the setlist was great and the guys seemed energized on stage, I couldn't help but feel that they did this due to how unpopular The Astonishing was - it seemed they needed to cut their losses and do a tour that was more appealing then. Either way, it was a good chance to catch certain rare tracks live, some of which will NEVER be played ever again. These guys are like my superheroes - MP, Kevin Moore and Derek Sherinian included, and I support them to the extent that I can.

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Posted 03 November 2018 - 08:37 PM

View Postbathory, on 03 November 2018 - 06:48 PM, said:

I know people here really dig ADTOE and the self-titled but I just don't hear a lot of staying power in any of the post-portnoy stuff

Speak for yourself.

the last portnoy Domenated albums (and that's what they were dominated)  pretty much blew, IMO.

The self titled to me was brilliance.  in my top 5.

Now the last one sucked.  but i'm willing for one more go.

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Posted 03 November 2018 - 08:39 PM

View PostRod in Toronto, on 03 November 2018 - 08:23 PM, said:

View Postbathory, on 03 November 2018 - 06:45 PM, said:

album will suck but I'll try and see them in april if they're doing SFAM

It' weird that they're doing SFAM now, since in 2013/2014 they also celebrated 15 years of the same album, and played a huge chunk of it, on the "self-titled" tour. But whatever...I never got the chance to see Scenes in full when it came out, so count me in. They'll be in Toronto on April 4th, and I'll be there. Someone in the inner circle of the band said in their forum that the setlist will not be a rehash of what they did on the SFAM tour, so I'm curious.

DT is one of those bands that I love, but also agree with a lot of the criticism towards them. The only time my interest level was so low that I missed the tour was when The Astonishing came out. I saw the Images, Words and Beyond last year, and while the setlist was great and the guys seemed energized on stage, I couldn't help but feel that they did this due to how unpopular The Astonishing was - it seemed they needed to cut their losses and do a tour that was more appealing then. Either way, it was a good chance to catch certain rare tracks live, some of which will NEVER be played ever again. These guys are like my superheroes - MP, Kevin Moore and Derek Sherinian included, and I support them to the extent that I can.

And MP'S doing some great things with Neal Morse IMO.

so he's in a good spot, IMO.

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Posted 03 November 2018 - 09:10 PM

He is indeed.

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Posted 03 November 2018 - 09:12 PM

Album cover looks pretentious and edgy.

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Posted 03 November 2018 - 09:12 PM

View PostUnion 5-3992, on 03 November 2018 - 09:12 PM, said:

Album cover looks pretentious and edgy.
Therefore the album will be bad.

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Posted 03 November 2018 - 09:15 PM

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View PostUnion 5-3992, on 03 November 2018 - 09:12 PM, said:

Album cover looks pretentious and edgy.
Therefore the album will be bad.

Don't forget that the same Hugh Syme did the cover of Clockwork Angels, which was horrible, but the booklet was amazing. The same can be said about DT's self titled album: laaaaaazy cover, great booklet.

I don't know what it is, but lately, Hugh Syme is very hit and miss.

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Posted 03 November 2018 - 09:18 PM

View PostRod in Toronto, on 03 November 2018 - 09:15 PM, said:

View PostUnion 5-3992, on 03 November 2018 - 09:12 PM, said:

View PostUnion 5-3992, on 03 November 2018 - 09:12 PM, said:

Album cover looks pretentious and edgy.
Therefore the album will be bad.

Don't forget that the same Hugh Syme did the cover of Clockwork Angels, which was horrible, but the booklet was amazing. The same can be said about DT's self titled album: laaaaaazy cover, great booklet.

I don't know what it is, but lately, Hugh Syme is very hit and miss.
I don't think all of CA's artwork was fantastic. Some was a little lazy.
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Posted 03 November 2018 - 09:25 PM

Why are we worried so much about the cover? Nobody cares about that unless it's an Iron Maiden album.

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Posted 04 November 2018 - 12:35 PM

I don't mind the album cover. I was expecting some major turd with what some of you were saying. It's probably one of their least pretentious covers. Either way, I'm not tremendously excited about new DT music, but I'll check it out anyway. It honestly can't be worse than their last album.

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Posted 04 November 2018 - 12:58 PM

View PostHemispheresserehpsimeH, on 04 November 2018 - 12:35 PM, said:

I don't mind the album cover. I was expecting some major turd with what some of you were saying. It's probably one of their least pretentious covers. Either way, I'm not tremendously excited about new DT music, but I'll check it out anyway. It honestly can't be worse than their last album.

Its a very direct image and it looks very clean, which creates a certain feel that I am curious to hear the album for. I can really enjoy DT. I will never be a big fan (at least I can't see it happening), but the last album aside, they have been moderately consistent with my tastes.

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Posted 04 November 2018 - 03:16 PM

First thought seeing the cover was The Body Electric. I don't know what it is, but Labrie's vocals seem to increasingly have a frequency or something that jars. Even in that clip.

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Posted 04 November 2018 - 03:20 PM

It's a Dream Theatre album, therefore it will be shite......

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Posted 04 November 2018 - 03:27 PM

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It's a Dream Theatre album, therefore it will be shite......

Oh very likely...But maybe this album will restore them to a steadier level!

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Posted 04 November 2018 - 03:31 PM

View PostSegue Myles, on 04 November 2018 - 03:27 PM, said:

View PostFridge, on 04 November 2018 - 03:20 PM, said:

It's a Dream Theatre album, therefore it will be shite......

Oh very likely...But maybe this album will restore them to a steadier level!

You got into them before they released The Astonishing. You really couldn't have picked a worse time to discover them. I've been a huge fan since Images and Words and The Astonishing killed about 90 percent of my enthusiasm for the band. That's how bad that whole endeavor was for me.

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Posted 04 November 2018 - 03:39 PM

View PostJ2112YYZ, on 04 November 2018 - 03:31 PM, said:

View PostSegue Myles, on 04 November 2018 - 03:27 PM, said:

View PostFridge, on 04 November 2018 - 03:20 PM, said:

It's a Dream Theatre album, therefore it will be shite......

Oh very likely...But maybe this album will restore them to a steadier level!

You got into them before they released The Astonishing. You really couldn't have picked a worse time to discover them. I've been a huge fan since Images and Words and The Astonishing killed about 90 percent of my enthusiasm for the band. That's how bad that whole endeavor was for me.

DT were possibly eyeing my top 5 artists of all time before TA came out. Somehow I never properly istenss to the whole thing, and I enjoyed what I did hear of it quite a bit (at least half, which is a lot), but all the negativity towards it here managed to turn me off of DT in general a bit. Enough to let Genesis and Bowie round out my top 5 instead. Over the past year or so I’ve gotten back into them a bit with Awake and Octavarium, so here’s hoping Distance Over Time will get me to check out the rest of their discography!




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