MalformedEarthborn Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just curious which everyone likes most. While my favourite basslines of his are on his Ricky, nothing beats the Wal tone for me. I'd kill to hear Hemispheres on a Wal! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Ged and the Rickenbacker go together like Ged and the Rickenbacker. Wait a sec somethings off with that analogy... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunter Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just curious which everyone likes most. While my favourite basslines of his are on his Ricky, nothing beats the Wal tone for me. I'd kill to hear Hemispheres on a Wal! Are you serious? The Wal is not even a real bass guitar. It's an electrified rubber band. The red wal sounds nice, especially on the mirrors bootleg, but that black thing is atrocious. I'd have to go with the Steinberger era just out of pure nostalgia. I'd still like to get one as part of my midlife crisis. I have a Geddy jazz, and I've also owned a Rickenbacker. Steinberger was the one that always just seemed Out Of Reach. No idea why my voice text capitalized that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalformedEarthborn Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just curious which everyone likes most. While my favourite basslines of his are on his Ricky, nothing beats the Wal tone for me. I'd kill to hear Hemispheres on a Wal! Are you serious? The Wal is not even a real bass guitar. It's an electrified rubber band. The red wal sounds nice, especially on the mirrors bootleg, but that black thing is atrocious. I'd have to go with the Steinberger era just out of pure nostalgia. I'd still like to get one as part of my midlife crisis. I have a Geddy jazz, and I've also owned a Rickenbacker. Steinberger was the one that always just seemed Out Of Reach. No idea why my voice text capitalized that Don't make me second guess my vote haha. Steinberger is dead last for me. Every note sounds like a baby farting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalformedEarthborn Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) I'd imagine a Steinberger would be cheaper than a Rick. Much cheaper than a Wal too. You pay less if there's no headstock haha Edited October 19, 2018 by MalformedEarthborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunter Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I'd imagine a Steinberger would be cheaper than a Rick. Much cheaper than a Wal too. You pay less if there's no headstock haha Nope. Not by a longshot. A Rick today goes for $1000-1500. A early Steinberger goes for about $2400 or so on ebay. A Wal can go for 3K to 6K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) There is also a Fender Jazz period circa 1981 So when we signed our first record deal, I bought a Rickenbacker 4001, and I used that for years, probably up until Moving Pictures. And even during Moving Pictures, I used that, but for half of Moving Pictures I also used the Jazz Bass. I've read all kinds of debates about what Ged used on Red Barchetta Edited October 19, 2018 by Lucas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) Has anyone isolated the Wal bass from a song like in the video above? I'm not a big fan of its sound either, but I'd like to hear it. I guess this is close Edited October 19, 2018 by toymaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I also think the wal albums would sound worse without the wal. Just that sound fits perfectly into the rest of the instrumental template, the Rickenbacker or the Jazz wouldn’t sound peppy / poppy enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 It's all in the fingers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalformedEarthborn Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 There is also a Fender Jazz period circa 1981 Yeah I left that out only because it was just for a few songs and most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetersvt Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Has anyone isolated the Wal bass from a song like in the video above? I'm not a big fan of its sound either, but I'd like to hear it. I guess this is close http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiaEaCVNmRk Have really enjoyed watching his videos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetersvt Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Rick for me. Steinberger last. Maybe not so much for the tone, but the fact (well maybe not fact, but thought I remember it) that he played it so it wouldn't bump into the keyboards as much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Voted for the Jazz he bought at a pawn shop in Kalamazoo (my home town). It would be interesting to know the address, but the shop and the address are likely long forgotten. The Steinberger has all the charm of a cricket bat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Digital Man Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just curious which everyone likes most. While my favourite basslines of his are on his Ricky, nothing beats the Wal tone for me. I'd kill to hear Hemispheres on a Wal! Are you serious? The Wal is not even a real bass guitar. It's an electrified rubber band. The red wal sounds nice, especially on the mirrors bootleg, but that black thing is atrocious. I'd have to go with the Steinberger era just out of pure nostalgia. I'd still like to get one as part of my midlife crisis. I have a Geddy jazz, and I've also owned a Rickenbacker. Steinberger was the one that always just seemed Out Of Reach. No idea why my voice text capitalized thatYou criticise the Wal then let yourself down by preferring the Steinberger, really? Wals are awesome bass guitars handmade from the finest woods by a small dedicated company and are held in the highest esteem in the bass community, the tone that Geddy produced from his Wals were exactly how he produced them to sound as was his taste at the time and not representative of the instrument as a whole, much like the tone he now extracts from his Fender which is not representative of the average Fender Jazz bass, take a listen to BSSM by the Red Hot Chilli Peppers played on Fleas Wal Mk 2 which is widely regarded as his best ever bass tone and you might see things differently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78jazz Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) Just curious which everyone likes most. While my favourite basslines of his are on his Ricky, nothing beats the Wal tone for me. I'd kill to hear Hemispheres on a Wal! Are you serious? The Wal is not even a real bass guitar. It's an electrified rubber band. The red wal sounds nice, especially on the mirrors bootleg, but that black thing is atrocious. I'd have to go with the Steinberger era just out of pure nostalgia. I'd still like to get one as part of my midlife crisis. I have a Geddy jazz, and I've also owned a Rickenbacker. Steinberger was the one that always just seemed Out Of Reach. No idea why my voice text capitalized thatYou criticise the Wal then let yourself down by preferring the Steinberger, really? Wals are awesome bass guitars handmade from the finest woods by a small dedicated company and are held in the highest esteem in the bass community, the tone that Geddy produced from his Wals were exactly how he produced them to sound as was his taste at the time and not representative of the instrument as a whole, much like the tone he now extracts from his Fender which is not representative of the average Fender Jazz bass, take a listen to BSSM by the Red Hot Chilli Peppers played on Fleas Wal Mk 2 which is widely regarded as his best ever bass tone and you might see things differently! I think one can be aware of the respect Wals have with some bassists, be aware of their excellent build quality, and still not like the tone. IMO, the MK I sounded much better than the MK II. The II sounded like he had rolled the tone completely off and given the twang of Wal basses this doesn't seem to help. It may also be because of where I am with my own playing, but I wonder if they are better as fretless basses. As for them being representative of what he wanted, I do not doubt that but having heard some videos of Justin Chancellor using them in concert his tone didn't seem too far off from that twang Geddy got from them. I suspect they have that, but can be EQed (see Mr. Chancellor). Count me in as someone who prefers the Steinberger to the Wal. I suspect if Geddy ran only the neck pickup, it is not criticized as much as it is. Yes, you can ask why I think this if you so desire. As for the Jazz Bass, he may have a bit more dirt on them than most but I do not think his is too far off from the basic tone they offer as single coil basses. I AM one of those weirdos who thinks that the Ric on HYF would have been at least interesting, if not enjoyable. Troy (the man in those videos) did a demo on a PoW or HYF song on a Stingray and it sounded just fine. I realize I mention a different bass, but I use this to say that the sound is not locked into that bass tone (at least, not for me anyway). Edited October 20, 2018 by 78jazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunter Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just curious which everyone likes most. While my favourite basslines of his are on his Ricky, nothing beats the Wal tone for me. I'd kill to hear Hemispheres on a Wal! Are you serious? The Wal is not even a real bass guitar. It's an electrified rubber band. The red wal sounds nice, especially on the mirrors bootleg, but that black thing is atrocious. I'd have to go with the Steinberger era just out of pure nostalgia. I'd still like to get one as part of my midlife crisis. I have a Geddy jazz, and I've also owned a Rickenbacker. Steinberger was the one that always just seemed Out Of Reach. No idea why my voice text capitalized thatYou criticise the Wal then let yourself down by preferring the Steinberger, really? Wals are awesome bass guitars handmade from the finest woods by a small dedicated company and are held in the highest esteem in the bass community, the tone that Geddy produced from his Wals were exactly how he produced them to sound as was his taste at the time and not representative of the instrument as a whole, much like the tone he now extracts from his Fender which is not representative of the average Fender Jazz bass, take a listen to BSSM by the Red Hot Chilli Peppers played on Fleas Wal Mk 2 which is widely regarded as his best ever bass tone and you might see things differently! Do you know what nostalgia means? Look it up. It's got nothing to do with the tone. I don't care what the black Wal sounded like in other people's hands. In Geddy's it sounded like shit. No bottom whatsoever. The red Wal was slightly better on record, much better live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78jazz Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 In his defense, the red Wal was an MK II. Same bass he refers to with Flea. That may have been a better sounding bass, but it would have been nice to hear the treble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Digital Man Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) Just curious which everyone likes most. While my favourite basslines of his are on his Ricky, nothing beats the Wal tone for me. I'd kill to hear Hemispheres on a Wal! Are you serious? The Wal is not even a real bass guitar. It's an electrified rubber band. The red wal sounds nice, especially on the mirrors bootleg, but that black thing is atrocious. I'd have to go with the Steinberger era just out of pure nostalgia. I'd still like to get one as part of my midlife crisis. I have a Geddy jazz, and I've also owned a Rickenbacker. Steinberger was the one that always just seemed Out Of Reach. No idea why my voice text capitalized thatYou criticise the Wal then let yourself down by preferring the Steinberger, really? Wals are awesome bass guitars handmade from the finest woods by a small dedicated company and are held in the highest esteem in the bass community, the tone that Geddy produced from his Wals were exactly how he produced them to sound as was his taste at the time and not representative of the instrument as a whole, much like the tone he now extracts from his Fender which is not representative of the average Fender Jazz bass, take a listen to BSSM by the Red Hot Chilli Peppers played on Fleas Wal Mk 2 which is widely regarded as his best ever bass tone and you might see things differently! Do you know what nostalgia means? Look it up. It's got nothing to do with the tone. I don't care what the black Wal sounded like in other people's hands. In Geddy's it sounded like shit. No bottom whatsoever. The red Wal was slightly better on record, much better live.You said 'The Wal is not even a real bass guitar, something about a rubber band, ridiculous statement, obviously an uneducated comment and the tone Geddy got from it was what he dialled in, he obviously liked the sound! Edited October 20, 2018 by New Digital Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78jazz Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I don't think it is uneducated to dislike the Wal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) Speaking of Flea and Geddy, they should get together with Les Claypool and create a DVD of them discussing basses, talking shop and shooting the bull. I know Geddy and Les are tight, but not sure what they think of Flea. Sort of like "it might get loud" that The Edge, Jimmy Page and Jack White put together. Edited October 20, 2018 by HemiBeers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78jazz Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I am not a Flea fan, but I would watch that anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunter Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just curious which everyone likes most. While my favourite basslines of his are on his Ricky, nothing beats the Wal tone for me. I'd kill to hear Hemispheres on a Wal! Are you serious? The Wal is not even a real bass guitar. It's an electrified rubber band. The red wal sounds nice, especially on the mirrors bootleg, but that black thing is atrocious. I'd have to go with the Steinberger era just out of pure nostalgia. I'd still like to get one as part of my midlife crisis. I have a Geddy jazz, and I've also owned a Rickenbacker. Steinberger was the one that always just seemed Out Of Reach. No idea why my voice text capitalized thatYou criticise the Wal then let yourself down by preferring the Steinberger, really? Wals are awesome bass guitars handmade from the finest woods by a small dedicated company and are held in the highest esteem in the bass community, the tone that Geddy produced from his Wals were exactly how he produced them to sound as was his taste at the time and not representative of the instrument as a whole, much like the tone he now extracts from his Fender which is not representative of the average Fender Jazz bass, take a listen to BSSM by the Red Hot Chilli Peppers played on Fleas Wal Mk 2 which is widely regarded as his best ever bass tone and you might see things differently! Do you know what nostalgia means? Look it up. It's got nothing to do with the tone. I don't care what the black Wal sounded like in other people's hands. In Geddy's it sounded like shit. No bottom whatsoever. The red Wal was slightly better on record, much better live.You said 'The Wal is not even a real bass guitar, something about a rubber band, ridiculous statement, obviously an uneducated comment and the tone Geddy got from it was what he dialled in, he obviously liked the sound! I don't give a rat's ass what sound Geddy liked. The thread is about what era I liked. Listen to any bootleg from the Presto era. The Hartford show that I was at is a soundboard recording, and his bass sounds exactly like a twangy rubber band. The only bass is from his foot pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Speaking of Flea and Geddy, they should get together with Les Claypool and create a DVD of them discussing basses, talking shop and shooting the bull. I know Geddy and Les are tight, but not sure what they think of Flea. Sort of like "it might get loud" that The Edge, Jimmy Page and Jack White put together. If Flea and Les haven’t met I’ll be shocked. Btw this is an astounding idea. I want this shot yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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