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#21 Hunted Witch

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Posted 14 September 2018 - 05:05 PM

I never liked Cavill in that role.  Superman is a tricky character to play, because he's so very square that any actor playing him has got to be loaded with charm, otherwise he comes off like a goody two shoes or a straight up fascist.

Affleck was completely wrong for Batman, he couldn't do the dark and broody thing to save his life.

Unpopular opinion:  I thought Affleck made a pretty good Daredevil.

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Posted 14 September 2018 - 05:15 PM

View PostHunted Witch, on 14 September 2018 - 05:05 PM, said:

Affleck was completely wrong for Batman, he couldn't do the dark and broody thing to save his life.

Unpopular opinion:  I thought Affleck made a pretty good Daredevil.

He was perfect as Will Hunting's best buddy, Chuckie.....

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Posted 14 September 2018 - 06:37 PM

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View Posttheredtamasrule, on 13 September 2018 - 05:07 PM, said:

DC is caught between needing to mimic the near perfect, if not repetitive, mix of drama, comedy & action of Marvel and trying to be a darker, more adult comic movie based on comics that have no need to be dark & serious (outside Batman v. The Joker).

Plus...marvel basically owns the comic book movie genre and has almost worn it out so that there’s seemingly no room for more comic book movies outside of Batman.

As there are decades of stories to adapt (or original screenplays they’d like to write), there’s plenty of room for comic book movies.

Saying there’s no more room for comic book movies is the same as saying there’s no more room for horror movies, sci-fi, etc.

I mean there doesn’t seem to be room outside of Marvel and Batman.

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Posted 14 September 2018 - 08:11 PM

View Postinvisible airwave, on 14 September 2018 - 02:05 PM, said:

View PostRod in Toronto, on 14 September 2018 - 08:46 AM, said:

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 14 September 2018 - 08:36 AM, said:

View PostFridge, on 14 September 2018 - 02:30 AM, said:

The only real issue here is massive relief the Affleck has gone....I can't stand his smug, twattish face at any price.

That’s why his best suited role is here:

http://m.youtube.com...eature=youtu.be

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Even without Affleck, Justice League would’ve been shit.
Look at Gal Gadot [really, look at her! ;) ]. I think she’s quite good as Wonder Woman and it still didn’t have a big enough affect on improving JL.

The Accountant was pretty good.

His first 3 directorial films are great.  Gone Baby Gone is number one on my best of 2007 list which was a great year for movies with classics like No Country For Old Men, There Will Be Blood And Zodiac.

You’re talking about Gone Baby Gone, The Town, and Argo, right? For me, all of those were surprisingly decent. GBG had the best cast but The Town was the most entertaining imho.

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Posted 14 September 2018 - 08:36 PM

View Posttheredtamasrule, on 14 September 2018 - 06:37 PM, said:

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 13 September 2018 - 05:31 PM, said:

View Posttheredtamasrule, on 13 September 2018 - 05:07 PM, said:

DC is caught between needing to mimic the near perfect, if not repetitive, mix of drama, comedy & action of Marvel and trying to be a darker, more adult comic movie based on comics that have no need to be dark & serious (outside Batman v. The Joker).

Plus...marvel basically owns the comic book movie genre and has almost worn it out so that there’s seemingly no room for more comic book movies outside of Batman.

As there are decades of stories to adapt (or original screenplays they’d like to write), there’s plenty of room for comic book movies.

Saying there’s no more room for comic book movies is the same as saying there’s no more room for horror movies, sci-fi, etc.

I mean there doesn’t seem to be room outside of Marvel and Batman.

I see.
There not being any room outside of Marvel and Batman seems more of a current writing problem than there not actually being any room. At the moment, DC seems a bit lazy with their live action movies. It’s certainly not a lack of capable actors since Marvel has generally done pretty well with their casting.

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Posted 14 September 2018 - 10:11 PM

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 14 September 2018 - 08:36 PM, said:

View Posttheredtamasrule, on 14 September 2018 - 06:37 PM, said:

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 13 September 2018 - 05:31 PM, said:

View Posttheredtamasrule, on 13 September 2018 - 05:07 PM, said:

DC is caught between needing to mimic the near perfect, if not repetitive, mix of drama, comedy & action of Marvel and trying to be a darker, more adult comic movie based on comics that have no need to be dark & serious (outside Batman v. The Joker).

Plus...marvel basically owns the comic book movie genre and has almost worn it out so that there’s seemingly no room for more comic book movies outside of Batman.

As there are decades of stories to adapt (or original screenplays they’d like to write), there’s plenty of room for comic book movies.

Saying there’s no more room for comic book movies is the same as saying there’s no more room for horror movies, sci-fi, etc.

I mean there doesn’t seem to be room outside of Marvel and Batman.

I see.
There not being any room outside of Marvel and Batman seems more of a current writing problem than there not actually being any room. At the moment, DC seems a bit lazy with their live action movies. It’s certainly not a lack of capable actors since Marvel has generally done pretty well with their casting.

Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter would be excellent films.  All they need is good actors and good scripts.  Easier said than done, I guess....

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Posted 14 September 2018 - 10:53 PM

View PostPrincipled Man, on 14 September 2018 - 10:11 PM, said:

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 14 September 2018 - 08:36 PM, said:

View Posttheredtamasrule, on 14 September 2018 - 06:37 PM, said:

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 13 September 2018 - 05:31 PM, said:

View Posttheredtamasrule, on 13 September 2018 - 05:07 PM, said:

DC is caught between needing to mimic the near perfect, if not repetitive, mix of drama, comedy & action of Marvel and trying to be a darker, more adult comic movie based on comics that have no need to be dark & serious (outside Batman v. The Joker).

Plus...marvel basically owns the comic book movie genre and has almost worn it out so that there’s seemingly no room for more comic book movies outside of Batman.

As there are decades of stories to adapt (or original screenplays they’d like to write), there’s plenty of room for comic book movies.

Saying there’s no more room for comic book movies is the same as saying there’s no more room for horror movies, sci-fi, etc.

I mean there doesn’t seem to be room outside of Marvel and Batman.

I see.
There not being any room outside of Marvel and Batman seems more of a current writing problem than there not actually being any room. At the moment, DC seems a bit lazy with their live action movies. It’s certainly not a lack of capable actors since Marvel has generally done pretty well with their casting.

Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter would be excellent films.  All they need is good actors and good scripts.  Easier said than done, I guess....

The Ryan Reynolds GL flick was garbage. I don’t like him, the Deadpool character, or the movie BUT he’s a good fit for that role. As GL? Poor choice.

Martian Manhunter could be interesting. And they wouldn’t be limited by feeling they need to cast a young actor since Manhunter would likely use a method similar to how Marvel got Vision’s appearance down.



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Posted 14 September 2018 - 11:13 PM

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View Postbluefox4000, on 14 September 2018 - 10:12 AM, said:

I won't miss Cavil man of steel and batman V superman were both awful.......i'm indifferent to Afflack.  as a matter of fact i don't object to any of this.  DC needs serious work,

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The stench of those movies were not the fault of the actors.

i agree.  but i do think DC need this reset.

if actors most go for that so be it.

Mick

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Posted 15 September 2018 - 01:50 AM

View Postbluefox4000, on 14 September 2018 - 11:13 PM, said:

View PostRushman14, on 14 September 2018 - 12:21 PM, said:

View Postbluefox4000, on 14 September 2018 - 10:12 AM, said:

I won't miss Cavil man of steel and batman V superman were both awful.......i'm indifferent to Afflack.  as a matter of fact i don't object to any of this.  DC needs serious work,

Mick

The stench of those movies were not the fault of the actors.

i agree.  but i do think DC need this reset.

if actors most go for that so be it.

Mick

How would you go about resetting DC onscreen?

Marvel style wherein each movie builds on the entire landscape?

Independent hero flicks which may or may not reference other characters?

One thing I think would be cool is a one-off Batman flick set in the 1930s (due to that’s when he was first developed) which focuses on his detective skills. Of all the appearances he’s made on the big screen already, this skill still hasn’t been exploited yet. It’d be a nice change. Less tech & Batmobile gadgets and more detective/mystery/noir & brawling + acrobatics.

Other than that, as first mentioned above by Principled Man, a Martian Manhunter movie could be good. That’s just begging to be made as a sci-fi bonanza. And if I continue my thought from the previous paragraph of a 1930s Batman flick, I’d place Manhunter in the 50s and all of that which it entails. You know what I’m saying here.

Edited by JohnnyBlaze, 15 September 2018 - 01:54 AM.





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