Do You Guys Like Saxophone In Your Rock And Roll, Prog and Heavy Metal? HELL NO!

[RUSHHEAD666]

CHICAGO

 

no sax, no deal. Bite me.

 

Agreed! Come on man! No horn section can touch TOP!

[RUSHHEAD666]

EWF

[RUSHHEAD666]

HUEY LEWIS

 

I Want A New Drug

[RUSHHEAD666]

Bowie "Modern Love"

[RUSHHEAD666]

Men At Work "Who Can It Be Now"

[RUSHHEAD666]

Some work in rock.

Most don't.

[Entre_Perpetuo]

Some work in rock.

Most don't.

 

A good saxophonist, given free reign over what he plays, or given a few other horn players and a well written horn chart, can turn a good rock song into a great one. If you've heard bad sax features in rock songs, perhaps the horn player wasn't good enough.

 

I love the sax in VDGG though, idk what you're talking about. A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers is made infinitely better by that feature for me.

[RUSHHEAD666]

Ghost with a dead Papa sax solo doesn't work live.

I can only pray to Lucifer that this crap is gone by November.

[RUSHHEAD666]

Some work in rock.

Most don't.

 

A good saxophonist, given free reign over what he plays, or given a few other horn players and a well written horn chart, can turn a good rock song into a great one. If you've heard bad sax features in rock songs, perhaps the horn player wasn't good enough.

 

I love the sax in VDGG though, idk what you're talking about. A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers is made infinitely better by that feature for me.

 

VDGG sounds like some serious sexually transmitted disease. Infected "sexophone" on the brain. Just another play on words.

 

I love VDGG as long as it's through my ears and not on my you know what.

[Entre_Perpetuo]

Earl, you wouldn't take the sax out of this tune!

 

[RUSHHEAD666]

Oh shit.

 

I think I really fuckked up tonight.

 

There is a sax in "Scenes From An Italian Restaurant" by Billy Joel of course.

 

One of my all time favorite songs ever made.

 

So fun to play on the drums too!

 

But!!

 

WOW!

 

The sax works on that one. "Scenes" to me is a progressive rock pop jazz song.

 

Sax and Billy do work.

[RUSHHEAD666]

Earl, you wouldn't take the sax out of this tune!

 

 

Jesus! What an amazing video.

 

YES!

 

You know it. "Dancing" RULES!

 

Ok, so still glad I wrote this thing. Adds a little spice to a kind of vanilla forum lately.

 

 

I love being proved wrong.

 

Love it!!

 

LIZZY RULES!

 

I will never understand why J2112 can't dig them.

 

It will bother me until the day I die.

 

But it's life!

[treeduck]

I'm listening to one of my most beloved prog groups on the Earth, CAMEL.

The first four albums are all masterpieces.

I remember listening to "A Live Record" for the first time decades ago.

Sadly I was slightly disturbed hearing a saxophone playing on that live record.

It bugged me.

 

Fast forward to the Queensryche "Promised Land" Tour. I've already written about how much I couldn't stand the stupid bar scene on the stage with Taint I mean Tate playing a sax.

 

Then let's go to 2018. You all know who read my shit that I was just appalled to see the dead Papa in GHOST play that stupid sax. Gimmick or not. I hated it.

 

So I think the problem is me. Of course it is!!

 

There is that other prog band which I do like called Van der Gaaf Generator. Great prog band but please hold the sax.

 

I am a strange "Duck" like Pat. I love the violin and flute in prog and rock but not the sax.

 

Now that being said, don't get me wrong and please don't get your knickers in a tizzy.

 

I LOVE the sax in Jazz, fusion, the blues and R&B.

 

You can give me TOWER OF POWER all night long. Heck I am seeing them in Oakland on June 1st! It's where they were born baby!

 

Anyway, just keep the sax out of my prog, rock and roll and METAL!

 

Can you name me a heavy metal band with a sax?

 

 

Hmmmmmmmmm..........

Yeah Saxophone doesn't seem to work in rock, even in bands like Supertramp it sounds annoying and weak. I think Gerry Rafferty's Baker Street is the only time it works in a rock song.

 

Haha! I love this poll thread! I totally agree! I hate Supertramp with a sax, yet Gerry's "Baker" Street" is an amazing classic!!!

I think it's because some of these rock guys think sax is cool and they think it'll make their band sound cool, but they have no idea how to utilize the instrument. What happens is they usually resort to drafting in some lame session player to play it and he just phones in his performance. On top of that they also write a totally generic or goofy sounding saxophone part that even John Coltrane couldn't salvage. Sax works best in jazz or it has to be used correctly to make it work in rock. Gerry Rafferty got the right guy to play a part that worked beautifully with that song, that's why sax worked there.

[treeduck]

I play saxophone Earl, and I love it! :P

 

Hahahaha!! Nice!!!

 

"A Love Supreme"

 

Transcendental album.

 

Also, asking about sax in prog? Do you not recall King Crimson? 21st Century Schizoid Man is nothing without that sax!

That's sax played in a completely different way to the average "rock" sax solo. I don't even consider it sax in the normal sense.

 

That's cuz they got a jazz saxophonist to play on a really weird song where his jazz chops came in handy.

 

Other great sax rock appearances:

 

Foregner - Urgent

Bruce - Thunder Road, Tenth Avenue Freeze Out, Born To Run, Jungleland, and a bunch of stuff on the E Street Shuffle

The Rolling Stones - so many things, but Brown Sugar and B**** can't be beat, also the solo on Waiting For A Friend is phenomenal, I believe by actual jazz saxophonist Sonny Rollins

The Beatles - Lady Madonna

Stevie Wonder - Sir Duke, Superstitious, and I believe I Wish

Bob Seger - Turn The Page, Old Time Rock And Roll

Gerry Rafferty - Baker Street

Pink Floyd - Money, Us & Them, Shine On You Crazy Diamond (talk about memorable)

David Bowie - all over the Ziggy Stardust album, I think also present on Aladdin Sane and Diamond Dogs, good stuff on Young Americans, and I believe on Station To Station, not to mention the sax toward the end of Low, and the horns on Let's Dance (three saxes and a trumpet), and don't get me started on the crazy avant garde jazz wizardry all over Blackstar on sax, Bowie was actually a sax player in school, and played sax on his own albums many many times.

Thin Lizzy - Dancing In The Moonlight (It's Caught Me In Its Spotlight)

Van Morrison - definitely good sax stuff on the Moondance album

Queen - Action This Day (and One Year Of Love, but that veers dangerously close to elevator jazz)

Billy Joel - You May Be Right, It's Still Rock and Roll To Me, and a few other songs I believe

 

there's a lot of great sax in rock and roll out there. You can't seriously tell me every one of these songs would be better off without it.

Most of those songs I don't like. Dancing in the Moonlight is one of my least favourite Lizzy tunes. Sax might have something to do with it.

[RUSHHEAD666]

I'm listening to one of my most beloved prog groups on the Earth, CAMEL.

The first four albums are all masterpieces.

I remember listening to "A Live Record" for the first time decades ago.

Sadly I was slightly disturbed hearing a saxophone playing on that live record.

It bugged me.

 

Fast forward to the Queensryche "Promised Land" Tour. I've already written about how much I couldn't stand the stupid bar scene on the stage with Taint I mean Tate playing a sax.

 

Then let's go to 2018. You all know who read my shit that I was just appalled to see the dead Papa in GHOST play that stupid sax. Gimmick or not. I hated it.

 

So I think the problem is me. Of course it is!!

 

There is that other prog band which I do like called Van der Gaaf Generator. Great prog band but please hold the sax.

 

I am a strange "Duck" like Pat. I love the violin and flute in prog and rock but not the sax.

 

Now that being said, don't get me wrong and please don't get your knickers in a tizzy.

 

I LOVE the sax in Jazz, fusion, the blues and R&B.

 

You can give me TOWER OF POWER all night long. Heck I am seeing them in Oakland on June 1st! It's where they were born baby!

 

Anyway, just keep the sax out of my prog, rock and roll and METAL!

 

Can you name me a heavy metal band with a sax?

 

 

Hmmmmmmmmm..........

Yeah Saxophone doesn't seem to work in rock, even in bands like Supertramp it sounds annoying and weak. I think Gerry Rafferty's Baker Street is the only time it works in a rock song.

 

Haha! I love this poll thread! I totally agree! I hate Supertramp with a sax, yet Gerry's "Baker" Street" is an amazing classic!!!

I think it's because some of these rock guys think sax is cool and they think it'll make their band sound cool, but they have no idea how to utilize the instrument. What happens is they usually resort to drafting in some lame session player to play it and he just phones in his performance. On top of that they also write a totally generic or goofy sounding saxophone part that even John Coltrane couldn't salvage. Sax works best in jazz or it has to be used correctly to make it work in rock. Gerry Rafferty got the right guy to play a part that worked beautifully with that song, that's why sax worked there.

 

Absolutely my brother.

 

"Baker's Street" is a gem.

 

I guess the sax works good with pop. That one song by WHAM! comes to mind.

[RUSHHEAD666]

I play saxophone Earl, and I love it! :P

 

Hahahaha!! Nice!!!

 

"A Love Supreme"

 

Transcendental album.

 

Also, asking about sax in prog? Do you not recall King Crimson? 21st Century Schizoid Man is nothing without that sax!

That's sax played in a completely different way to the average "rock" sax solo. I don't even consider it sax in the normal sense.

 

That's cuz they got a jazz saxophonist to play on a really weird song where his jazz chops came in handy.

 

Other great sax rock appearances:

 

Foregner - Urgent

Bruce - Thunder Road, Tenth Avenue Freeze Out, Born To Run, Jungleland, and a bunch of stuff on the E Street Shuffle

The Rolling Stones - so many things, but Brown Sugar and B**** can't be beat, also the solo on Waiting For A Friend is phenomenal, I believe by actual jazz saxophonist Sonny Rollins

The Beatles - Lady Madonna

Stevie Wonder - Sir Duke, Superstitious, and I believe I Wish

Bob Seger - Turn The Page, Old Time Rock And Roll

Gerry Rafferty - Baker Street

Pink Floyd - Money, Us & Them, Shine On You Crazy Diamond (talk about memorable)

David Bowie - all over the Ziggy Stardust album, I think also present on Aladdin Sane and Diamond Dogs, good stuff on Young Americans, and I believe on Station To Station, not to mention the sax toward the end of Low, and the horns on Let's Dance (three saxes and a trumpet), and don't get me started on the crazy avant garde jazz wizardry all over Blackstar on sax, Bowie was actually a sax player in school, and played sax on his own albums many many times.

Thin Lizzy - Dancing In The Moonlight (It's Caught Me In Its Spotlight)

Van Morrison - definitely good sax stuff on the Moondance album

Queen - Action This Day (and One Year Of Love, but that veers dangerously close to elevator jazz)

Billy Joel - You May Be Right, It's Still Rock and Roll To Me, and a few other songs I believe

 

there's a lot of great sax in rock and roll out there. You can't seriously tell me every one of these songs would be better off without it.

Most of those songs I don't like. Dancing in the Moonlight is one of my least favourite Lizzy tunes. Sax might have something to do with it.

 

 

I know Pat. We are diehard Lizzy fans. I get it. I love "Dancing" but it sure as hell ain't one of my faves.

 

Give me "Dancing On Glass" by Motley Crue or "You Should Be Dancing" by the Bee Gees.

 

Hell, "DANCE" by RATT even rules.

 

 

"Let's Dance" Pat.

 

Love,

 

David Bowie

[Stormtron]

I like the saxophone. I don't think I want it in metal, but I like when it's used sparingly in a few songs...Dancin' in the Moonlight, Same Old Song and Dance...love it there.

 

Earl sees this shit in his nightmares:

 

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-h3P9-caYvVE/TWYcoOXD5KI/AAAAAAAAEEw/DMlcgHK0MLs/s1600/IMG_0722.JPG

Edited May 21, 2018 by Stormtron

[JohnnyBlaze]

Pink Floyd and Bowie are my first thoughts...but i generally don’t want it in there. PF & Bowie could pull it off because they were otherworldly talents

[tangy]

Imo nobody did the sax and horns in general better than that strange group named after a dildo.....

 

Drink scotch whisky all night long!

[tangy]

I play saxophone Earl, and I love it! :P

 

Hahahaha!! Nice!!!

 

"A Love Supreme"

 

Transcendental album.

 

Also, asking about sax in prog? Do you not recall King Crimson? 21st Century Schizoid Man is nothing without that sax!

That's sax played in a completely different way to the average "rock" sax solo. I don't even consider it sax in the normal sense.

 

That's cuz they got a jazz saxophonist to play on a really weird song where his jazz chops came in handy.

 

Other great sax rock appearances:

 

Foregner - Urgent

Bruce - Thunder Road, Tenth Avenue Freeze Out, Born To Run, Jungleland, and a bunch of stuff on the E Street Shuffle

The Rolling Stones - so many things, but Brown Sugar and B**** can't be beat, also the solo on Waiting For A Friend is phenomenal, I believe by actual jazz saxophonist Sonny Rollins

The Beatles - Lady Madonna

Stevie Wonder - Sir Duke, Superstitious, and I believe I Wish

Bob Seger - Turn The Page, Old Time Rock And Roll

Gerry Rafferty - Baker Street

Pink Floyd - Money, Us & Them, Shine On You Crazy Diamond (talk about memorable)

David Bowie - all over the Ziggy Stardust album, I think also present on Aladdin Sane and Diamond Dogs, good stuff on Young Americans, and I believe on Station To Station, not to mention the sax toward the end of Low, and the horns on Let's Dance (three saxes and a trumpet), and don't get me started on the crazy avant garde jazz wizardry all over Blackstar on sax, Bowie was actually a sax player in school, and played sax on his own albums many many times.

Thin Lizzy - Dancing In The Moonlight (It's Caught Me In Its Spotlight)

Van Morrison - definitely good sax stuff on the Moondance album

Queen - Action This Day (and One Year Of Love, but that veers dangerously close to elevator jazz)

Billy Joel - You May Be Right, It's Still Rock and Roll To Me, and a few other songs I believe

 

there's a lot of great sax in rock and roll out there. You can't seriously tell me every one of these songs would be better off without it.

Most of those songs I don't like. Dancing in the Moonlight is one of my least favourite Lizzy tunes. Sax might have something to do with it.

 

Thats a strange one. Quite honestly it sounds like they were copying van morrison.

[Texas King]

The Big Man - 'nuff said!

 

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[Segue Myles]

Why not? Bruce Springsteen had amazing moments with Clarence Clemens.

 

I didn't realise rock had to be closeminded.

[invisible airwave]

Oh shit.

 

I think I really fuckked up tonight.

 

There is a sax in "Scenes From An Italian Restaurant" by Billy Joel of course.

 

One of my all time favorite songs ever made.

 

So fun to play on the drums too!

 

But!!

 

WOW!

 

The sax works on that one. "Scenes" to me is a progressive rock pop jazz song.

 

Sax and Billy do work.

 

Until The Night is a personal fave of mine. Can’t forget Only The Good Die Young either.

[invisible airwave]

The Big Man - 'nuff said!

 

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His nephew did a good job on High Hopes.

[invisible airwave]

Pink Floyd and Bowie are my first thoughts...but i generally don’t want it in there. PF & Bowie could pull it off because they were otherworldly talents

 

Sanborn on Young Americans ain’t bad either. Love Somebody Up There Likes Me.