Red3angel Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 So I’ve been forcing myself to listen to my least favorite rush album continuously in my car to and from work. I now love it my mind has been blown 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I believe it has been torn asunder bro! The first side is their best epic.Circumstances is their best short song.La Villa is their best instrumental. Imo. Your mileage may vary. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
custom55 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Least favorite Rush album ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien Girl Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Hemispheres is truly sublime, glad you've gained some understanding. ;) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbobby10 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 La Villa Strangiato 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Side 2 is one of their strongest. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Check Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Now your heart and mind are united in a single perfect sphere. Priests praise your name on this night 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red3angel Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 Least favorite Rush album ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red3angel Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 It was the one I listened to the least. I knew it was great I just couldn’t handle it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil1972 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) Side 1 is average. Side two is face melting. Edited April 11, 2018 by Wil1972 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entre_Perpetuo Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Hems is great, essential even, but it doesn't hold a candle to MP, PeW, AFTK or 2112. The side-long epic is overly repetitive and actually a bit too busy for its own good (and after AFTK had so much atmosphere, hard to imagine), Circumstances is decent but really nothing special, and while I love the Trees and La Villa, they're both negatively affected by my least favorite thing about the album: the production. 2112 had heavy guitars that sounded heavier than anything released before 1976 by any band not named Black Sabbath, and even Sabbath's heavy wasn't usually has high speed and intense. Sure, the production on 2112 might not be absolutely stunning all the time, but it got at least one thing magnificently right, and that was the heaviness. AFTK on the other hand, opted for a beautiful, heavily detailed, atmospheric production, which allowed Xanadu, Cygnus, AFTK, and CTTH a really mystical and magical quality that complemented the fantasy and sci-fi themes present like a perfect fitting glove on a hand. However, it didn't wash away the heaviness in the process. Cygnus contains probably Rush's heaviest recorded section of music ever until maybe Vapor Trails. The intensity of the metal, surrounded by the beauty of the atmospherics, created an album which spans the whole range of sonics and dynamics possible for the band at the time, and it's breathtaking. Then there was Hems. From what I've read on the album's recording process, the band found themselves pressed pretty hard for time towards the end of the sessions, and once accidentally made a production mistake which took nearly all of the bite out of the guitars and weight out of the bass and drums. Terry Brown worked some of his studio wizardry here in order to save the album, and while I would say save the album he did (Hems is Reign In Blood compared to Roll The Bones), I could tell from the first time I listened to it this didn't have the same satisfying crunch of 2112 nor the organic, but powerful, layering of AFTK. Hems sounds to my ears, and especially during the side long suite, like the product of rushed production from a high quality producer, which is what it is in truth. Terry is easily among my favorite producers, but the band were focusing so much on the music that the best he could do was present each instrument in polished glass clarity and make sure nothing sounded too jarring. As a result, I easily find my mind wandering when I listen to it. The guitars distort, but they don't punch. The drums are clear, but sound small. The bass work is impressive and totally audible, but I hear it in my ears and don't feel it in my gut. The production job is clinically clean, even Ged's shrieks have lost enough edge to get boring for me (it didn't help that he still sang almost exclusively in the stratosphere, though you could hear much of his youthful energy was already maturing and lowering his voice). I love the bits of synth work as well, but they feel tacked on and limited rather than integral and exlporatory as they did on AFTK. Sure, the climax of Hems is precedent by a section which rests almost entirely on a washy bed of synthesizers, and it sounds mysterious and is one of the parts of the song I find most interesting, but where are the synths in the rest of the piece. Xanadu may have limited synth use to certain sections, but it was recurring, and when the synth was present is was codependent on the guitars and drums going on during its part. In Hems, there is a mostly electric guitar song, which is overly repetitive, a small acoustic ballad at the end, and a small nearly all synth interlude in the middle. The sections don't work together, they just pick up where the last one left off and go in their own, unrelated direction. Circumstances and The Trees manage the idea of the synth interlude much better, especially The Trees where the synth interlude plays into the guitar instrumental that follows it, but still these songs are less concerned with incorporating synth into the bands sound (as AFTK did and following albums would do) than showing off that they could insert synth sections. So, impressive, different, cool, but not as much so as if the'd managed to incorporate the synth into the actual song part of the song. La Villa is the only track on the album to do this, which is part of why I love it, along with it jus being an incredible composition, but again the clinical production constantly leaves me wishing this or that sound was louder, or fuller, or just more dynamic. Listening to Hems is for me sometimes similar to listening to Toto (whom I don't hate but do dislike this about them). I can hear that, yeah they're great, but so what? I don't feel it as much as I hear it, and that's not what I listen to music for. Sorry to be controversial. Remember everything is just my opinion and not meant to sway your own. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Permanent-Rush Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 ^ AMAZINGLY said Entre!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Permanent-Rush Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Honestly I love Hemispheres, but I can' listen to mush 70's Rush, as that music style isn't much my taste anymore and listening to stuff that is hard core 70's all the time makes me feel naucious, oh nausea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas King Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 2112 had heavy guitars that sounded heavier than anything released before 1976 by any band not named Black Sabbath, and even Sabbath's heavy wasn't usually has high speed and intense. Sure, the production on 2112 might not be absolutely stunning all the time, but it got at least one thing magnificently right, and that was the heaviness. Apart from early Sabs albums I really doubt that 2112 can be heavier than Deep Purple In Rock (from 1970). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas King Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Hemispheres is an album with no track that is close to be weak. It's a superb album and my No 2 album in Rush discography. It's not absolutely perfect, but very close to perfection. Side-long title track and Circumstances are 8/10 tracks, La Villa is 10/10(top 3 Rush song for me and probably my fave instrumental by anyone I ever heard) and The Trees is 9/10. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Hemisphere Don't you mean that only half your mind was blown then? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunter Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Hems is great, essential even, but it doesn't hold a candle to MP, PeW, AFTK or 2112. The side-long epic is overly repetitive and actually a bit too busy for its own good (and after AFTK had so much atmosphere, hard to imagine), Circumstances is decent but really nothing special, and while I love the Trees and La Villa, they're both negatively affected by my least favorite thing about the album: the production. 2112 had heavy guitars that sounded heavier than anything released before 1976 by any band not named Black Sabbath, and even Sabbath's heavy wasn't usually has high speed and intense. Sure, the production on 2112 might not be absolutely stunning all the time, but it got at least one thing magnificently right, and that was the heaviness. AFTK on the other hand, opted for a beautiful, heavily detailed, atmospheric production, which allowed Xanadu, Cygnus, AFTK, and CTTH a really mystical and magical quality that complemented the fantasy and sci-fi themes present like a perfect fitting glove on a hand. However, it didn't wash away the heaviness in the process. Cygnus contains probably Rush's heaviest recorded section of music ever until maybe Vapor Trails. The intensity of the metal, surrounded by the beauty of the atmospherics, created an album which spans the whole range of sonics and dynamics possible for the band at the time, and it's breathtaking. Then there was Hems. From what I've read on the album's recording process, the band found themselves pressed pretty hard for time towards the end of the sessions, and once accidentally made a production mistake which took nearly all of the bite out of the guitars and weight out of the bass and drums. Terry Brown worked some of his studio wizardry here in order to save the album, and while I would say save the album he did (Hems is Reign In Blood compared to Roll The Bones), I could tell from the first time I listened to it this didn't have the same satisfying crunch of 2112 nor the organic, but powerful, layering of AFTK. Hems sounds to my ears, and especially during the side long suite, like the product of rushed production from a high quality producer, which is what it is in truth. Terry is easily among my favorite producers, but the band were focusing so much on the music that the best he could do was present each instrument in polished glass clarity and make sure nothing sounded too jarring. As a result, I easily find my mind wandering when I listen to it. The guitars distort, but they don't punch. The drums are clear, but sound small. The bass work is impressive and totally audible, but I hear it in my ears and don't feel it in my gut. The production job is clinically clean, even Ged's shrieks have lost enough edge to get boring for me (it didn't help that he still sang almost exclusively in the stratosphere, though you could hear much of his youthful energy was already maturing and lowering his voice). I love the bits of synth work as well, but they feel tacked on and limited rather than integral and exlporatory as they did on AFTK. Sure, the climax of Hems is precedent by a section which rests almost entirely on a washy bed of synthesizers, and it sounds mysterious and is one of the parts of the song I find most interesting, but where are the synths in the rest of the piece. Xanadu may have limited synth use to certain sections, but it was recurring, and when the synth was present is was codependent on the guitars and drums going on during its part. In Hems, there is a mostly electric guitar song, which is overly repetitive, a small acoustic ballad at the end, and a small nearly all synth interlude in the middle. The sections don't work together, they just pick up where the last one left off and go in their own, unrelated direction. Circumstances and The Trees manage the idea of the synth interlude much better, especially The Trees where the synth interlude plays into the guitar instrumental that follows it, but still these songs are less concerned with incorporating synth into the bands sound (as AFTK did and following albums would do) than showing off that they could insert synth sections. So, impressive, different, cool, but not as much so as if the'd managed to incorporate the synth into the actual song part of the song. La Villa is the only track on the album to do this, which is part of why I love it, along with it jus being an incredible composition, but again the clinical production constantly leaves me wishing this or that sound was louder, or fuller, or just more dynamic. Listening to Hems is for me sometimes similar to listening to Toto (whom I don't hate but do dislike this about them). I can hear that, yeah they're great, but so what? I don't feel it as much as I hear it, and that's not what I listen to music for. Sorry to be controversial. Remember everything is just my opinion and not meant to sway your own. Youth is wasted on the young.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red3angel Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 Hems is great, essential even, but it doesn't hold a candle to MP, PeW, AFTK or 2112. The side-long epic is overly repetitive and actually a bit too busy for its own good (and after AFTK had so much atmosphere, hard to imagine), Circumstances is decent but really nothing special, and while I love the Trees and La Villa, they're both negatively affected by my least favorite thing about the album: the production. 2112 had heavy guitars that sounded heavier than anything released before 1976 by any band not named Black Sabbath, and even Sabbath's heavy wasn't usually has high speed and intense. Sure, the production on 2112 might not be absolutely stunning all the time, but it got at least one thing magnificently right, and that was the heaviness. AFTK on the other hand, opted for a beautiful, heavily detailed, atmospheric production, which allowed Xanadu, Cygnus, AFTK, and CTTH a really mystical and magical quality that complemented the fantasy and sci-fi themes present like a perfect fitting glove on a hand. However, it didn't wash away the heaviness in the process. Cygnus contains probably Rush's heaviest recorded section of music ever until maybe Vapor Trails. The intensity of the metal, surrounded by the beauty of the atmospherics, created an album which spans the whole range of sonics and dynamics possible for the band at the time, and it's breathtaking. Then there was Hems. From what I've read on the album's recording process, the band found themselves pressed pretty hard for time towards the end of the sessions, and once accidentally made a production mistake which took nearly all of the bite out of the guitars and weight out of the bass and drums. Terry Brown worked some of his studio wizardry here in order to save the album, and while I would say save the album he did (Hems is Reign In Blood compared to Roll The Bones), I could tell from the first time I listened to it this didn't have the same satisfying crunch of 2112 nor the organic, but powerful, layering of AFTK. Hems sounds to my ears, and especially during the side long suite, like the product of rushed production from a high quality producer, which is what it is in truth. Terry is easily among my favorite producers, but the band were focusing so much on the music that the best he could do was present each instrument in polished glass clarity and make sure nothing sounded too jarring. As a result, I easily find my mind wandering when I listen to it. The guitars distort, but they don't punch. The drums are clear, but sound small. The bass work is impressive and totally audible, but I hear it in my ears and don't feel it in my gut. The production job is clinically clean, even Ged's shrieks have lost enough edge to get boring for me (it didn't help that he still sang almost exclusively in the stratosphere, though you could hear much of his youthful energy was already maturing and lowering his voice). I love the bits of synth work as well, but they feel tacked on and limited rather than integral and exlporatory as they did on AFTK. Sure, the climax of Hems is precedent by a section which rests almost entirely on a washy bed of synthesizers, and it sounds mysterious and is one of the parts of the song I find most interesting, but where are the synths in the rest of the piece. Xanadu may have limited synth use to certain sections, but it was recurring, and when the synth was present is was codependent on the guitars and drums going on during its part. In Hems, there is a mostly electric guitar song, which is overly repetitive, a small acoustic ballad at the end, and a small nearly all synth interlude in the middle. The sections don't work together, they just pick up where the last one left off and go in their own, unrelated direction. Circumstances and The Trees manage the idea of the synth interlude much better, especially The Trees where the synth interlude plays into the guitar instrumental that follows it, but still these songs are less concerned with incorporating synth into the bands sound (as AFTK did and following albums would do) than showing off that they could insert synth sections. So, impressive, different, cool, but not as much so as if the'd managed to incorporate the synth into the actual song part of the song. La Villa is the only track on the album to do this, which is part of why I love it, along with it jus being an incredible composition, but again the clinical production constantly leaves me wishing this or that sound was louder, or fuller, or just more dynamic. Listening to Hems is for me sometimes similar to listening to Toto (whom I don't hate but do dislike this about them). I can hear that, yeah they're great, but so what? I don't feel it as much as I hear it, and that's not what I listen to music for. Sorry to be controversial. Remember everything is just my opinion and not meant to sway your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red3angel Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 Sooooooooo...................... now that you have in lightened me ,what is everyone’s opinion of Hemispheres versus caress of steel. Which is the better rush album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 So I’ve been forcing myself to listen to my least favorite rush album continuously in my car to and from work. I now love it my mind has been blown Maybe I should try this. I have brief flirtations of romance with this album and then I hate it again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Sooooooooo...................... now that you have in lightened me ,what is everyone’s opinion of Hemispheres versus caress of steel. Which is the better rush album?Hemispheres, and they're not even in the same galaxy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Side 1 is average. Side two is face melting. THIS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil1972 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Hems is great, essential even, but it doesn't hold a candle to MP, PeW, AFTK or 2112. The side-long epic is overly repetitive and actually a bit too busy for its own good ...Sorry to be controversial. Remember everything is just my opinion and not meant to sway your own. Yea, you can tell they struggled with that one. Sounds forced. But side two was great. Good post at any rate! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil1972 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Sooooooooo...................... now that you have in lightened me ,what is everyone’s opinion of Hemispheres versus caress of steel. Which is the better rush album? Hemispheres. Even with its faults, it outpaces CoS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red3angel Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 So I’ve been forcing myself to listen to my least favorite rush album continuously in my car to and from work. I now love it my mind has been blown Maybe I should try this. I have brief flirtations of romance with this album and then I hate it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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