Jump to content


When did the Synth Era end?


  • Please log in to reply
35 replies to this topic

#1 Justus_2112

Justus_2112

    The Seeker

  • Members
  • 302 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Hesperia, CA
  • Interests:Music to the point that I am uninterested in sports.

Posted 13 March 2018 - 12:03 PM

I have heard many answers to this, all of them different.

The Synth Era undoubtedly started with Signals in 1982 (big stylistic change between MP and Signals.) But when do you think it ended?

I know that their use of synthesizers went way down with Presto, but I consider the end to be after Roll the Bones, because although the synths stopped, the style and structure of the songs stayed the same until Counterparts changed it.

That's just my thought. What do you think?

Sponsored Post

#2 JohnRogers

JohnRogers

    Holy Tai Shan!!!

  • Members *
  • 27677 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sandwiched between the GWB and the Lincoln Tunnel
  • Interests:American Muscle/Sports cars, Movies, New York City Subway, Cigar Lounges

Posted 13 March 2018 - 12:17 PM

View PostJustus_2112, on 13 March 2018 - 12:03 PM, said:

I have heard many answers to this, all of them different.

The Synth Era undoubtedly started with Signals in 1982 (big stylistic change between MP and Signals.) But when do you think it ended?

I know that their use of synthesizers went way down with Presto, but I consider the end to be after Roll the Bones, because although the synths stopped, the style and structure of the songs stayed the same until Counterparts changed it.

That's just my thought. What do you think?
I disagree. The Synth Era started with Grace Under Pressure and ended with T4E.

#3 upstateNYfan

upstateNYfan

    Prime Mover

  • Members
  • 631 posts

Posted 13 March 2018 - 12:34 PM

View PostJohnRogers, on 13 March 2018 - 12:17 PM, said:

View PostJustus_2112, on 13 March 2018 - 12:03 PM, said:

I have heard many answers to this, all of them different.

The Synth Era undoubtedly started with Signals in 1982 (big stylistic change between MP and Signals.) But when do you think it ended?

I know that their use of synthesizers went way down with Presto, but I consider the end to be after Roll the Bones, because although the synths stopped, the style and structure of the songs stayed the same until Counterparts changed it.

That's just my thought. What do you think?
I disagree. The Synth Era started with Grace Under Pressure and ended with T4E.

Just listen to the synth that kicks off Subdivisions on Signals in 1982 - Counterparts in 1993 was punchy bass and loud guitar and drums with minimal synths. I say the synth era ended after Roll the Bones and began with Signals.

#4 Ultimate Rush Tribute

Ultimate Rush Tribute

    Long Awaited Froind

  • Members
  • 42 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Orlando
  • Interests:Rush, Redskins, Golf, Boating, Family, Keg Parties and Crypto-currency.

Posted 13 March 2018 - 12:48 PM

From Farewell to Kings to Signals keyboards were being introduced more and more but Grace Under Pressure was a Paradigm shift in the use of Keys and a big transition in Alex's guitar parts and sound.  Presto was the return to more guitar oriented.

#5 Rick N. Backer

Rick N. Backer

    Loves that dirty water

  • Members *
  • 24360 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New England

Posted 13 March 2018 - 12:52 PM

Too late.

#6 Rick N. Backer

Rick N. Backer

    Loves that dirty water

  • Members *
  • 24360 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New England

Posted 13 March 2018 - 12:54 PM

View PostUltimate Rush Tribute, on 13 March 2018 - 12:48 PM, said:

From Farewell to Kings to Signals keyboards were being introduced more and more but Grace Under Pressure was a Paradigm shift in the use of Keys and a big transition in Alex's guitar parts and sound.  Presto was the return to more guitar oriented.

I agree.  The difference between Signals and GUP is much greater than the difference between MP and Signals.  GUP is when the synths first overwhelmed the songs.

#7 bluefox4000

bluefox4000

    I never talk to strangers

  • Members
  • 17503 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Long Island, NY
  • Interests:Music, Reading, Talking

Posted 13 March 2018 - 01:07 PM

I think it ended after Presto.  though HYF is probably more accurate actually.

Mick

#8 tangy

tangy

    The Great Progholio

  • Members
  • 9699 posts

Posted 13 March 2018 - 01:10 PM

The synth era is when they brought in those dudes for power windows and hold your fire. Outside help and no more reggae flavor



#9 Entre_Perpetuo

Entre_Perpetuo

    Queenmaster

  • Members
  • 5236 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Solar Federation
  • Interests:Music, architecture, and childhood hobbies.

Posted 13 March 2018 - 01:19 PM

officially, it ends with Roll The Bones, as that album is the first in a while to feature guitar driven music more heavily than synth driven music. However, RTB sucks, and CP is when the guitar really regained its shine, so CP is also a fine answer.

#10 The Cat 3

The Cat 3

    Modern Day Alice Cooper

  • Members *
  • 16614 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:53rd & 3rd

Posted 13 March 2018 - 01:30 PM

Not soon enough! ;)

#11 bluefox4000

bluefox4000

    I never talk to strangers

  • Members
  • 17503 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Long Island, NY
  • Interests:Music, Reading, Talking

Posted 13 March 2018 - 01:51 PM

View PostThe Cat 3, on 13 March 2018 - 01:30 PM, said:

Not soon enough! ;)

boooooooooo!!!!!!!!

lol.....love ya.

Mick

#12 lifeson90

lifeson90

    Superconductor

  • Members
  • 1252 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 13 March 2018 - 03:24 PM

Always surprises me when fans express dislike for synth era, Ged's synths are exquisite man

Listen to him in La Villa or the very last album in BU2B, when you hear those keyboards you know is Rush. He aint no Rick Wakeman and he knows that but he gets the maximum amount of creative juice outa what he does know. The guy is a true artist on those things and were it not for ged's keyboards an awful lot of Al's best playing wouldnt have been possible, he used the sounds and the gaps between em as a canvas to go all over the place.

I love Ged's keyboards they gorgeous

#13 Red3angel

Red3angel

    The Seeker

  • Members
  • 219 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ohio
  • Interests:60s Bond. Art . Sade . Robert plant . The police

Posted 13 March 2018 - 07:23 PM

The real question is when did the synth era begin.  I realize there is a lot of synth  on a lot of the albums but hold your fire to me was the end

Edited by Red3angel, 13 March 2018 - 07:24 PM.


#14 Digital Dad

Digital Dad

    The Dad Abides

  • Members
  • 10515 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 13 March 2018 - 07:25 PM

View PostRed3angel, on 13 March 2018 - 07:23 PM, said:

The real question is when did the synth era begin

Well its a huge synth swell that begins 2112 so that.

I disagree with the OP. Theres not a huge bit of difference from side 2 of MP to Signals.

Edited by Digital Dad, 13 March 2018 - 07:27 PM.


#15 Maverick

Maverick

    SWEDGIN!

  • Members *
  • 24644 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Low Earth Orbit
  • Interests:Painfully Geeky

Posted 13 March 2018 - 08:11 PM

No poll, no care.

#16 RUSHHEAD666

RUSHHEAD666

    My name is Earl

  • Members
  • 32410 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:California

Posted 13 March 2018 - 08:32 PM

View PostRick N. Backer, on 13 March 2018 - 12:54 PM, said:

View PostUltimate Rush Tribute, on 13 March 2018 - 12:48 PM, said:

From Farewell to Kings to Signals keyboards were being introduced more and more but Grace Under Pressure was a Paradigm shift in the use of Keys and a big transition in Alex's guitar parts and sound.  Presto was the return to more guitar oriented.

I agree.  The difference between Signals and GUP is much greater than the difference between MP and Signals.  GUP is when the synths first overwhelmed the songs.

I must be smoking the crack pipe again.  "SIGNALS" IS SYNTH!  Are you guys nuts?????  I remember when I bought "Signals" as a little kid on the day it came out.  I fuckking cried I was so pissed off that there was no guitar!!!

"The Camera Eye" kicked off the Synth Era then!

#17 goose

goose

    Honkin' in Nevada

  • Members *
  • 59548 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sierra Nevada foothills, East Slope
  • Interests:Comical conies

Posted 13 March 2018 - 09:11 PM

View PostJustus_2112, on 13 March 2018 - 12:03 PM, said:

I have heard many answers to this, all of them different.

The Synth Era undoubtedly started with Signals in 1982 (big stylistic change between MP and Signals.) But when do you think it ended?

I know that their use of synthesizers went way down with Presto, but I consider the end to be after Roll the Bones, because although the synths stopped, the style and structure of the songs stayed the same until Counterparts changed it.

That's just my thought. What do you think?
Like you say, I think the spirit of the synth era is still present on those two albums.  Although guitar is more front and center, it's still a more atmospheric sounding approach, Andy Summers style (which I love).  You can hear riff-centered writing, though.

#18 grasbo

grasbo

    Prime Mover

  • Members
  • 902 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:australia
  • Interests:Music,playing guitar,collecting models,recording,football,cricket,op shopping,chilli,garlic,anchovies,wasabi,mustard,oysters,mussells,beer,war gaming,model railroading,positive people,goldfish

Posted 13 March 2018 - 09:18 PM

The synth era started when they got this dude Hugh Syme to play keys(mellotron,soughtt of like a prehistoric synth) on Tears.Also as mentioned the whoosh at the start of 2112 as mentioned.Seriously it all started on Signals but came into full swing with GUP ,perhaps my fave Rush album.As well as Geds keys we have electronic percussion.Alex's sound and style changed to.Presto stripped the overall production back but the keys were still there.Counterparts saw Alex roaring back and then they bludgeoned the keys to oblivion on VT.Power Windows was the height of the synth period.

#19 Relayer2112

Relayer2112

    Prime Mover

  • Members
  • 529 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling

Posted 14 March 2018 - 07:47 AM

I'm not sure that "synth era" is the proper term here.  I would say "keyboard focused" instead.  They had been using synth from very early in their careers.  The point at which the albums became "keyboard focused" started with Signals in my opinion and ended with Hold Your Fire.  The best of the bunch I think was Power Windows, the perfect blend of all instruments involved.

Obviously they used keyboards/synth before and after, but I believe these few albums were constructed primarily with the keyboard in mind.

#20 Rick N. Backer

Rick N. Backer

    Loves that dirty water

  • Members *
  • 24360 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New England

Posted 14 March 2018 - 12:38 PM

View PostRUSHHEAD666, on 13 March 2018 - 08:32 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 13 March 2018 - 12:54 PM, said:

View PostUltimate Rush Tribute, on 13 March 2018 - 12:48 PM, said:

From Farewell to Kings to Signals keyboards were being introduced more and more but Grace Under Pressure was a Paradigm shift in the use of Keys and a big transition in Alex's guitar parts and sound.  Presto was the return to more guitar oriented.

I agree.  The difference between Signals and GUP is much greater than the difference between MP and Signals.  GUP is when the synths first overwhelmed the songs.

I must be smoking the crack pipe again.  "SIGNALS" IS SYNTH!  Are you guys nuts?????  I remember when I bought "Signals" as a little kid on the day it came out.  I fuckking cried I was so pissed off that there was no guitar!!!

"The Camera Eye" kicked off the Synth Era then!

There's a lot of synth on Signals, true.  But there was on PeW and MP too, and songs like The Analog Kid and Digital Man are more guitar driven and heavy than anything on GUP.  Even songs that have more synth presence, like Subdivisions and The Weapon, are still better and heavier than any of the songs on GUP.




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users