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#41 cygnify

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 02:15 PM

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I've never understood why Tom Sawyer is their seminole track either. It's easily my least favorite of their 'radio hits' (except maybe Fly By Night); and there are much better tracks (Circumstances, A Farewell to Kings, The Analog Kid, even Kid Gloves) that I would think are Radio friendly, yet receive almost no play...

I've always thought of TS as their Cherokee track, personally.
That took me a while.  :lol:

Man, if SOCN has taught me anything, it's that my humor is very often not successfully communicated.

I got it instantly.  Probably because I live in Seminal county.  ;)

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 07:41 PM

View PostJARG, on 06 March 2018 - 01:49 PM, said:

View Postgoose, on 06 March 2018 - 01:30 PM, said:

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View PostKenJennings, on 05 March 2018 - 11:59 AM, said:

I've never understood why Tom Sawyer is their seminole track either. It's easily my least favorite of their 'radio hits' (except maybe Fly By Night); and there are much better tracks (Circumstances, A Farewell to Kings, The Analog Kid, even Kid Gloves) that I would think are Radio friendly, yet receive almost no play...

I've always thought of TS as their Cherokee track, personally.
That took me a while.  :lol:

Man, if SOCN has taught me anything, it's that my humor is very often not successfully communicated.

Don't worry, I appreciated it! I was just too inebriated at the time to comment on it!

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 05:00 PM

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As with just about any "hit" song, the timing of it's release is as important if not more so than anything else.  It struck a "chord" with the youth of 1981, so to speak.

True but there must be more to it; my step daughters latched onto it 8 years ago when they were 10 and 5 respectively. I think those mentioning the groove and that gnarly growling bass pedal thing that defines the song are part of it's appeal. Timing could be part of it but there is something else going on that still works in the 21st century.

You're probably right...there is definitely something else going on there.  I think the track has aged tremendously (just about everything they did from 1976 through 1981 has aged well).  My kids enjoy it, but were still looking forward the most to hearing "Roll the Bones" on the R40 tour which made me realize that they just don't really get it.

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 05:36 PM

I've always found the opening lines to the song totally cringeworthy....Kim Mitchell should have been kept well away from it.

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 06:25 PM

At the time that Tom Sawyer was released, Rock music and young fans of Rock music were in a very rebellious stage. Tom Sawyer was a cool sounding  song that just sounded rebellious with lines like "A modern day warrior Mean, mean stride Today's Tom Sawyer Mean, mean pride". and "No, his mind is not for rent to any god or government".  I believe that people liked it because those lines embodied coolness at the time and people felt cool listening to and singing along with those lines

Edited by snowdogged, 07 March 2018 - 06:26 PM.


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 06:50 PM

View PostFridge, on 07 March 2018 - 05:36 PM, said:

I've always found the opening lines to the song totally cringeworthy....Kim Mitchell should have been kept well away from it.

Why Kim? It was Pye Dubois who contributed the lyrical ideas.

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 08:54 PM

View PostJARG, on 05 March 2018 - 12:06 PM, said:

View PostKenJennings, on 05 March 2018 - 11:59 AM, said:

I've never understood why Tom Sawyer is their seminole track either. It's easily my least favorite of their 'radio hits' (except maybe Fly By Night); and there are much better tracks (Circumstances, A Farewell to Kings, The Analog Kid, even Kid Gloves) that I would think are Radio friendly, yet receive almost no play...

I've always thought of TS as their Cherokee track, personally.

Sigh...

Nobody wants to admit they used the wrong word, but I did and I'm ashamed of myself.

And FFS, it led to a John Anderson gag!

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 09:24 PM

View PostJARG, on 07 March 2018 - 06:50 PM, said:

View PostFridge, on 07 March 2018 - 05:36 PM, said:

I've always found the opening lines to the song totally cringeworthy....Kim Mitchell should have been kept well away from it.

Why Kim? It was Pye Dubois who contributed the lyrical ideas.
I'd say Tom Sawyer's lyrics are way down on the cringe-worthy list when it comes to RUSH.

EDIT:  And it's a loooong list.

Edited by goose, 07 March 2018 - 09:25 PM.


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Posted 07 March 2018 - 09:30 PM

View Postgoose, on 07 March 2018 - 09:24 PM, said:

View PostJARG, on 07 March 2018 - 06:50 PM, said:

View PostFridge, on 07 March 2018 - 05:36 PM, said:

I've always found the opening lines to the song totally cringeworthy....Kim Mitchell should have been kept well away from it.

Why Kim? It was Pye Dubois who contributed the lyrical ideas.
I'd say Tom Sawyer's lyrics are way down on the cringe-worthy list when it comes to RUSH.

EDIT:  And it's a loooong list.

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 05:54 AM

View PostJARG, on 07 March 2018 - 06:50 PM, said:

View PostFridge, on 07 March 2018 - 05:36 PM, said:

I've always found the opening lines to the song totally cringeworthy....Kim Mitchell should have been kept well away from it.

Why Kim? It was Pye Dubois who contributed the lyrical ideas.

Doh......brain fart




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