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Posted 02 March 2018 - 12:39 AM

I mean vocalists who don't really seem to need any help from technology, and who have maintained their youthful timbre over time - although I suppose a sub-category could be singers who were consistently good in their younger days - Ian Anderson, Phil Collins...

Just to start off:

Consistently good:  Jon Anderson, Ann and Nancy Wilson, Freddy Mercury, Tom Petty

Inconsistent:  Geddy Lee, Robert Plant, Joe Elliot

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 01:03 AM

What are your thoughts on this?



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Posted 02 March 2018 - 02:58 AM

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 02 March 2018 - 01:03 AM, said:

What are your thoughts on this?



First, Nancy Wilson looks unbelievably hot for her age, and has great hair.
Second, Ann Wilson also looks smokin' and is pretty much nailing the tune.
Third, the backup singers are completely unnecessary.
Fourth, Plant looks caught between wistful pride and about to burst into tears

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 11:14 AM

Sammy Hagar still sounds really good.  Diamond Dave does not.

Paul McCartney, incredibly, still has it.

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 11:23 AM

Paul Mccartney is still remarkable

Biggest inconsistent singer for me.  James Lebrie by far.

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 02:37 PM

I don't agree that Paul McCartney still has it...I've seen clips of some live performances over the last couple years and they are cringe-worthy.  It seems his vocal chords decided to retire a couple years ago.

That being said...he was a tremendous singer, song-writer for decade after decade and had a truly unique, wonderful voice.  Unfortunately, it's mostly gone now.

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 02:41 PM

What's the consensus on Bruce Dickinson?  I haven't heard much from him lately, but was always amazed at how well he continued to sing...considering how much it sounded like he strained his vocal chords on a regular basis.

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 02:54 PM

View PostRelayer2112, on 02 March 2018 - 02:41 PM, said:

What's the consensus on Bruce Dickinson?  I haven't heard much from him lately, but was always amazed at how well he continued to sing...considering how much it sounded like he strained his vocal chords on a regular basis.

He's still pretty good live. But when I saw them last summer his voice was showing signs of wear but they had also been touring for two years at that point and were towards the end of the tour. So that no doubt played a factor in his voice being a little weaker. He's never taken any singing lessons and his voice is all natural. That's where the vocal strain comes from.

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 04:10 PM

Consistent - Bruce Dickinson
Inconsistent - Ian Gillan

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 05:32 PM

Inconsistent-Geddy Lee., Stevie Nicks

Consistent-Ann Wilson

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 05:34 PM

And As much as i love Freddie Mercury,  He could be all over the map.

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 06:25 PM

I happen to love Graham Bonnet

And at age 70, he still brings it ..

Some of the notes he hits here are remarkable  ..( singing starts @5:55 if interested )


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Posted 02 March 2018 - 06:56 PM

View Postbluefox4000, on 02 March 2018 - 05:34 PM, said:

And As much as i love Freddie Mercury,  He could be all over the map.

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Maybe as far as hitting high notes on any particular night, but he never gave any performance less than his absolute all, and whether or not his singing was quite perfect that night, one would always walk away feeling thoroughly entertained. You can't say he was ever an inconsistent all around performer and front man.

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 07:48 PM

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Brad Delp was amazing live.



I just realized he's been dead ten years now.  :rose:

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 08:52 PM

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 02 March 2018 - 06:56 PM, said:

View Postbluefox4000, on 02 March 2018 - 05:34 PM, said:

And As much as i love Freddie Mercury,  He could be all over the map.

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Maybe as far as hitting high notes on any particular night, but he never gave any performance less than his absolute all, and whether or not his singing was quite perfect that night, one would always walk away feeling thoroughly entertained. You can't say he was ever an inconsistent all around performer and front man.

Perhaps, but now you’re getting away from the thread point and getting into an even more subjective observation.  By that measure, Ozzy still entertains the crowd now.  His voice is shot though.

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 08:59 PM

James LaBrie is the king of inconsistency. Russel Allen is jaw-droppingly excellent.

Dio also ALWAYS delivered!

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 09:07 PM

View PostRick N. Backer, on 02 March 2018 - 08:52 PM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 02 March 2018 - 06:56 PM, said:

View Postbluefox4000, on 02 March 2018 - 05:34 PM, said:

And As much as i love Freddie Mercury,  He could be all over the map.

Mick

Maybe as far as hitting high notes on any particular night, but he never gave any performance less than his absolute all, and whether or not his singing was quite perfect that night, one would always walk away feeling thoroughly entertained. You can't say he was ever an inconsistent all around performer and front man.

Perhaps, but now you’re getting away from the thread point and getting into an even more subjective observation.  By that measure, Ozzy still entertains the crowd now.  His voice is shot though.

Oh no I realize I'm not talking about the thread topic anymore, I just wanted to make sure Freddie's case was fully presented. Yes, he could be inconsistent as a singer live, for various reasons such as writing parts that were too high or technical for him to hit night after night, or just from being so athletic on stage, or for his illness around 1986 first becoming noticeable. I don't deny that at all, but I also care very little if he's having an off night vocally when I watch footage or when I listen to the recordings, because everything else about his performance was always kept to an outstanding standard.

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 09:10 PM

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 02 March 2018 - 09:07 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 02 March 2018 - 08:52 PM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 02 March 2018 - 06:56 PM, said:

View Postbluefox4000, on 02 March 2018 - 05:34 PM, said:

And As much as i love Freddie Mercury,  He could be all over the map.

Mick

Maybe as far as hitting high notes on any particular night, but he never gave any performance less than his absolute all, and whether or not his singing was quite perfect that night, one would always walk away feeling thoroughly entertained. You can't say he was ever an inconsistent all around performer and front man.

Perhaps, but now you’re getting away from the thread point and getting into an even more subjective observation.  By that measure, Ozzy still entertains the crowd now.  His voice is shot though.

Oh no I realize I'm not talking about the thread topic anymore, I just wanted to make sure Freddie's case was fully presented. Yes, he could be inconsistent as a singer live, for various reasons such as writing parts that were too high or technical for him to hit night after night, or just from being so athletic on stage, or for his illness around 1986 first becoming noticeable. I don't deny that at all, but I also care very little if he's having an off night vocally when I watch footage or when I listen to the recordings, because everything else about his performance was always kept to an outstanding standard.
Freddie was consistently good.

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Posted 02 March 2018 - 09:15 PM

View Postgoose, on 02 March 2018 - 09:10 PM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 02 March 2018 - 09:07 PM, said:

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View Postbluefox4000, on 02 March 2018 - 05:34 PM, said:

And As much as i love Freddie Mercury,  He could be all over the map.

Mick

Maybe as far as hitting high notes on any particular night, but he never gave any performance less than his absolute all, and whether or not his singing was quite perfect that night, one would always walk away feeling thoroughly entertained. You can't say he was ever an inconsistent all around performer and front man.

Perhaps, but now you’re getting away from the thread point and getting into an even more subjective observation.  By that measure, Ozzy still entertains the crowd now.  His voice is shot though.

Oh no I realize I'm not talking about the thread topic anymore, I just wanted to make sure Freddie's case was fully presented. Yes, he could be inconsistent as a singer live, for various reasons such as writing parts that were too high or technical for him to hit night after night, or just from being so athletic on stage, or for his illness around 1986 first becoming noticeable. I don't deny that at all, but I also care very little if he's having an off night vocally when I watch footage or when I listen to the recordings, because everything else about his performance was always kept to an outstanding standard.
Freddie was consistently good.

yeah, like, despite what I've said, he was too good of a singer to ever let himself sound anything close to bad. What I mean by inconsistent is he wouldn't always reach the enormously high standard he set for himself in the studio, he would often settle for something easier on his voice or more suited for a live setting, even if it wasn't as amazing, as long as it was still good.

Edited by Entre_Perpetuo, 02 March 2018 - 09:17 PM.


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Posted 02 March 2018 - 11:14 PM

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 02 March 2018 - 09:15 PM, said:

View Postgoose, on 02 March 2018 - 09:10 PM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 02 March 2018 - 09:07 PM, said:

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View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 02 March 2018 - 06:56 PM, said:

View Postbluefox4000, on 02 March 2018 - 05:34 PM, said:

And As much as i love Freddie Mercury,  He could be all over the map.

Mick

Maybe as far as hitting high notes on any particular night, but he never gave any performance less than his absolute all, and whether or not his singing was quite perfect that night, one would always walk away feeling thoroughly entertained. You can't say he was ever an inconsistent all around performer and front man.

Perhaps, but now you’re getting away from the thread point and getting into an even more subjective observation.  By that measure, Ozzy still entertains the crowd now.  His voice is shot though.

Oh no I realize I'm not talking about the thread topic anymore, I just wanted to make sure Freddie's case was fully presented. Yes, he could be inconsistent as a singer live, for various reasons such as writing parts that were too high or technical for him to hit night after night, or just from being so athletic on stage, or for his illness around 1986 first becoming noticeable. I don't deny that at all, but I also care very little if he's having an off night vocally when I watch footage or when I listen to the recordings, because everything else about his performance was always kept to an outstanding standard.
Freddie was consistently good.

yeah, like, despite what I've said, he was too good of a singer to ever let himself sound anything close to bad. What I mean by inconsistent is he wouldn't always reach the enormously high standard he set for himself in the studio, he would often settle for something easier on his voice or more suited for a live setting, even if it wasn't as amazing, as long as it was still good.
Sometimes the result was better than the studio, like with Spread Your Wings.




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