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#101 bluefox4000

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 11:23 AM

So many useless points Fraroc.

most opinions too.

Have you polled EVERYONE in regard to The Edge?

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 12:31 PM

View Postfraroc, on 03 February 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

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View Postfraroc, on 31 January 2018 - 10:22 PM, said:

Okay so I admit there are a lot of great 70s guitarists.

But that does not change the fact that the very late 70s and 80s was when all the innovation happened.

You can NOT sit there and tell me that Eruption didn't change everything. From the sound of the guitar to the way it was played.

It did change everyone's perception of what a guitar could do, yes, but as many guitarists that bought into that idea and achieved fame and success copying or extrapolating on EVH, many others found their own way. Let's not forget that arguably the most influential 80s band on the past nearly 20 years of music was pretty much U2, and The Edge most certainly didn't care a bit about what finger tapping or sweep picking was.

The Edge doesn't even crack most people's top 100s

He certainly cracks Alex Lifeson’s.  Or at least he did from about 1984-1988.

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 12:56 PM

View PostRick N. Backer, on 03 February 2018 - 12:31 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 03 February 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 01 February 2018 - 12:31 AM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 31 January 2018 - 10:22 PM, said:

Okay so I admit there are a lot of great 70s guitarists.

But that does not change the fact that the very late 70s and 80s was when all the innovation happened.

You can NOT sit there and tell me that Eruption didn't change everything. From the sound of the guitar to the way it was played.

It did change everyone's perception of what a guitar could do, yes, but as many guitarists that bought into that idea and achieved fame and success copying or extrapolating on EVH, many others found their own way. Let's not forget that arguably the most influential 80s band on the past nearly 20 years of music was pretty much U2, and The Edge most certainly didn't care a bit about what finger tapping or sweep picking was.

The Edge doesn't even crack most people's top 100s

He certainly cracks Alex Lifeson’s.  Or at least he did from about 1984-1988.
To be fair, Alex probably didn't even crack his own list from 1984 (or 1985 at least) through probably at least 1989, the way he was utilized.

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 01:06 PM

View Postbluefox4000, on 03 February 2018 - 11:23 AM, said:

So many useless points Fraroc.

most opinions too.

Have you polled EVERYONE in regard to The Edge?

Mick
I'll take The Edge's tonal artistry to a shredder's speed-based wankery any day.

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 01:10 PM

View Postgoose, on 03 February 2018 - 01:06 PM, said:

View Postbluefox4000, on 03 February 2018 - 11:23 AM, said:

So many useless points Fraroc.

most opinions too.

Have you polled EVERYONE in regard to The Edge?

Mick
I'll take The Edge's tonal artistry to a shredder's speed-based wankery any day.

I'll tell ya......i'm not really a fan of U2 but the Edge is a classy player.

EVH.......much respect.  but it's ALL flash.  that i do enjoy from time to time don't get me wroong.

Mick

Edited by bluefox4000, 03 February 2018 - 01:12 PM.


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Posted 03 February 2018 - 01:20 PM

View Postbluefox4000, on 03 February 2018 - 01:10 PM, said:

View Postgoose, on 03 February 2018 - 01:06 PM, said:

View Postbluefox4000, on 03 February 2018 - 11:23 AM, said:

So many useless points Fraroc.

most opinions too.

Have you polled EVERYONE in regard to The Edge?

Mick
I'll take The Edge's tonal artistry to a shredder's speed-based wankery any day.

I'll tell ya......i'm not really a fan of U2 but the Edge is a classy player.

EVH.......much respect.  but it's ALL flash.  that i do enjoy from time to time don't get me wroong.

Mick
I listen for his rhythm work, which is brilliant.

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 04:31 PM

View Postgoose, on 03 February 2018 - 01:20 PM, said:

View Postbluefox4000, on 03 February 2018 - 01:10 PM, said:

View Postgoose, on 03 February 2018 - 01:06 PM, said:

View Postbluefox4000, on 03 February 2018 - 11:23 AM, said:

So many useless points Fraroc.

most opinions too.

Have you polled EVERYONE in regard to The Edge?

Mick
I'll take The Edge's tonal artistry to a shredder's speed-based wankery any day.

I'll tell ya......i'm not really a fan of U2 but the Edge is a classy player.

EVH.......much respect.  but it's ALL flash.  that i do enjoy from time to time don't get me wroong.

Mick
I listen for his rhythm work, which is brilliant.

Hot For Teacher has one heck of a riff.

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 04:31 PM

View Postfraroc, on 03 February 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 01 February 2018 - 12:31 AM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 31 January 2018 - 10:22 PM, said:

Okay so I admit there are a lot of great 70s guitarists.

But that does not change the fact that the very late 70s and 80s was when all the innovation happened.

You can NOT sit there and tell me that Eruption didn't change everything. From the sound of the guitar to the way it was played.

It did change everyone's perception of what a guitar could do, yes, but as many guitarists that bought into that idea and achieved fame and success copying or extrapolating on EVH, many others found their own way. Let's not forget that arguably the most influential 80s band on the past nearly 20 years of music was pretty much U2, and The Edge most certainly didn't care a bit about what finger tapping or sweep picking was.

The Edge doesn't even crack most people's top 100s

I'd respond directly, but others seem to have spoken for me. I agree with them.

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 04:37 PM

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 03 February 2018 - 04:31 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 03 February 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 01 February 2018 - 12:31 AM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 31 January 2018 - 10:22 PM, said:

Okay so I admit there are a lot of great 70s guitarists.

But that does not change the fact that the very late 70s and 80s was when all the innovation happened.

You can NOT sit there and tell me that Eruption didn't change everything. From the sound of the guitar to the way it was played.

It did change everyone's perception of what a guitar could do, yes, but as many guitarists that bought into that idea and achieved fame and success copying or extrapolating on EVH, many others found their own way. Let's not forget that arguably the most influential 80s band on the past nearly 20 years of music was pretty much U2, and The Edge most certainly didn't care a bit about what finger tapping or sweep picking was.

The Edge doesn't even crack most people's top 100s

I'd respond directly, but others seem to have spoken for me. I agree with them.

Apparently fraroc polled the entire WORLD.......and Edge sucks, lol

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 04:44 PM

There is a lot of unfair criticism in regards to Yngwie Malmsteen, and while I do agree that he plateaued long ago, his place in not only the history of the guitar, but in music is firmly cemented among some of the all time greats ..

What I would like to bring up is not about whether you like his music or even appreciate his guitar pyrotechnics, but the fact that in a time when just about EVERY band and guitarist was watering down the style, changing for the times, blah blah blah, Yngwie kicked down the door and DID HIS OWN THING ..

Steve Hackett, Steve Howe, Alex Lifeson all neutered they playing in attempts at joining the heard ... Nostalgia aside, that GTR album is shit and so many other supposed "greats" of the 70s turned their backs on what made them good ..

Yngwie became a HERO based on HIS OWN creation and joined no group of lemmings that were headed off the cliff ..

The excuses people make for Alex, Hackett, Howe, etc etc are just that - excuses

As Bill Parcell once said : Your are what your record says you are

Go ahead and justify why bands like GTR formed ...

Yngwie revolutionized guitar when other "heroes" were chasing the latest fad

Edited by Lucas, 04 February 2018 - 02:14 AM.


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Posted 03 February 2018 - 04:51 PM

As influential and life changing as any electric guitar piece ever

What Eddie did in 1978, Ynwgie did in 1984

Made every so called guitar great's output in the 1980s sound neutered ..

The list could go on and on of guitarists who spit the bit when the 80s came around

Again, Yngwie was a hero to every guitarist who was looking for that guy to carry the flag

It sure as hell wasn't Alex Lifeson



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Posted 03 February 2018 - 06:53 PM

Like I was saying earlier, lead guitar is divided into 2 eras:

BYJM (Before Yngwie J. Malmsteen) and AYJM (After Yngwie J. Malmsteen).

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 07:43 PM

View PostFridge, on 30 January 2018 - 01:12 PM, said:

70s

Uli John Roth

Eddie Van Halen (VH1 released 1978)

Steve Howe

Jeff Beck

John Mclaughlin

Frank Zappa

Glenn Tipton

Eric Johnson



Gary Moore

Alan Holdsworth

Eric Johnson wasn't really a standout until the 80s. Any chance you meant Eric Clapton?

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 08:51 PM

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Steve Hackett, Steve Howe, Alex Lifeson all neutered they playing in attempts at joining the heard ...
Intentional or not, this is a great pun!

:lol:

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 10:40 PM

Alex had his balls snipped by Geddy's keyboards.

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Posted 04 February 2018 - 02:16 AM

View Postgoose, on 03 February 2018 - 08:51 PM, said:

View PostLucas, on 03 February 2018 - 04:44 PM, said:



Steve Hackett, Steve Howe, Alex Lifeson all neutered they playing in attempts at joining the heard ...
Intentional or not, this is a great pun!

:lol:

:lol:

Probably closer to Freudian !!!!



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 03:14 AM

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 01 February 2018 - 12:31 AM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 31 January 2018 - 10:22 PM, said:

Okay so I admit there are a lot of great 70s guitarists.

But that does not change the fact that the very late 70s and 80s was when all the innovation happened.

You can NOT sit there and tell me that Eruption didn't change everything. From the sound of the guitar to the way it was played.

It did change everyone's perception of what a guitar could do, yes, but as many guitarists that bought into that idea and achieved fame and success copying or extrapolating on EVH, many others found their own way. Let's not forget that arguably the most influential 80s band on the past nearly 20 years of music was pretty much U2, and The Edge most certainly didn't care a bit about what finger tapping or sweep picking was.


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 03:43 AM

View PostReRushed, on 04 February 2018 - 03:14 AM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 01 February 2018 - 12:31 AM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 31 January 2018 - 10:22 PM, said:

Okay so I admit there are a lot of great 70s guitarists.

But that does not change the fact that the very late 70s and 80s was when all the innovation happened.

You can NOT sit there and tell me that Eruption didn't change everything. From the sound of the guitar to the way it was played.

It did change everyone's perception of what a guitar could do, yes, but as many guitarists that bought into that idea and achieved fame and success copying or extrapolating on EVH, many others found their own way. Let's not forget that arguably the most influential 80s band on the past nearly 20 years of music was pretty much U2, and The Edge most certainly didn't care a bit about what finger tapping or sweep picking was.


Thank you for getting me into Bill Bailey just now.




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