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#1 oghond2112

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 10:09 PM

These are the opening liner notes of 2112:

"I lie awake, staring out at the bleakness of Megadon. City and sky become one, merging into a single plane, a vast sea of unbroken grey. The Twin Moons, just two pale orbs as they trace their way across the steely sky. I used to think I had a pretty good life here, just plugging into my machine for the day, then watching Templevision or reading a Temple Paper in the evening.

My friend Jon always said it was nicer here than under the atmospheric domes of the Outer Planets. We have had peace since 2062, when the surving planets were banded together under the Red Star of the Solar Federation. The less fortunate gave us a few new moons.

I believed what I was told, I thought it was a good life, I thought I was happy. Then I found something that changed it all..."

WHY IS NEIL PEART SO VAGUE? WHERE IS THE SOLAR FEDERATION?!?!

It sounds like it's on Earth, in our own Solar System, but there could also be the possibility of another Earth-like planet, in another galaxy, with human-like alien life and all sorts of tech stolen from Earth... AND that the SF is actually a group of alien races, of which the Syrinx are chief among them...

Question: Where is it?

Rather, where do you think it is? Earth doesn't have twin moons...

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 10:31 PM

Galaxy far, far away . . .

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 10:34 PM

There are those who believe that life here began out there… far across the universe, with tribes of humans who may have been the forefathers of the Egyptians or the Toltecs or the Mayans. Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man who even now fight to survive somewhere beyond the heavens.

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 10:43 PM

View Postoghond2112, on 18 January 2018 - 10:09 PM, said:

Question: Where is it?

Answer:  It is wherever you want it to be.  It is a work of fiction.  Use your imagination and locate it anywhere you want.

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 10:50 PM

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When people began to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that they were fair; and they took wives for themselves of all that they chose. Then the Lord said, “My spirit shall not abide in mortals forever, for they are flesh; their days shall be one hundred twenty years.” The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went in to the daughters of humans, who bore children to them. These were the heroes that were of old, warriors of renown.
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Posted 18 January 2018 - 10:57 PM


From the dawn of time we came, moving silently


down through the Centuries. Living many secret


lives, struggling to reach the time of the Gathering,


when the few who remain will battle to the last.  


No one has ever known we were among you


until now...



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Posted 18 January 2018 - 11:09 PM

View PostPrincipled Man, on 18 January 2018 - 10:43 PM, said:

View Postoghond2112, on 18 January 2018 - 10:09 PM, said:

Question: Where is it?

Answer:  It is wherever you want it to be.  It is a work of fiction.  Use your imagination and locate it anywhere you want.

Beat me to it. Exactly what I was going to say.

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 11:12 PM

Doesn't the Solar Fed live next to K Fed?



Yes, I'm an ass.

Edited by vaportrailer, 18 January 2018 - 11:14 PM.


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 12:41 AM

View PostPrincipled Man, on 18 January 2018 - 10:43 PM, said:

View Postoghond2112, on 18 January 2018 - 10:09 PM, said:

Question: Where is it?

Answer:  It is wherever you want it to be.  It is a work of fiction.  Use your imagination and locate it anywhere you want.

Similar to how the details of the ending are ambiguous, so are many such insignificant details as this. This is Neil Peart, not Tolkien. 2112, not The Lord Of The Rings. If you want the best storytelling possible, you go for a great fictional novel. If you want the best storytelling possible in a rock song, you'll probably have to lower your standards a bit.

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 01:05 AM

View Posttoymaker, on 18 January 2018 - 10:31 PM, said:

Galaxy far, far away . . .
Queue the Star Wars theme!

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 04:10 AM

East of Lyra

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 06:21 AM

Do we even know if 2112 is supposed to be 2112AD? It's just a date number, could refer to anywhere at anytime...


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 06:55 AM

View PostLurkst, on 19 January 2018 - 06:21 AM, said:

Do we even know if 2112 is supposed to be 2112AD? It's just a date number, could refer to anywhere at anytime...

We at least know it’s not BC due to the wordage “We have had peace since 2062...”.

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 07:50 AM

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 19 January 2018 - 06:55 AM, said:

View PostLurkst, on 19 January 2018 - 06:21 AM, said:

Do we even know if 2112 is supposed to be 2112AD? It's just a date number, could refer to anywhere at anytime...

We at least know it’s not BC due to the wordage “We have had peace since 2062...”.
And it's not Jewish, because it's already 5863 or something on their calendar.

ETA, not bad, its 5777 according to Google.

Edited by laughedatbytime, 19 January 2018 - 07:52 AM.


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 08:06 AM

I suppose it really depends what drugs you are partaking of at the time........

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 08:10 AM

View PostLurkst, on 19 January 2018 - 06:21 AM, said:

Do we even know if 2112 is supposed to be 2112AD? It's just a date number, could refer to anywhere at anytime...

A great many science fiction stories have future human societies and empires that use different calendars and dating systems, like in Frank Herbert's Dune and Isaac Asimov's Foundation series. They exist tens of thousands of years in the future.

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 08:26 AM

View PostJ2112YYZ, on 18 January 2018 - 11:09 PM, said:

View PostPrincipled Man, on 18 January 2018 - 10:43 PM, said:

View Postoghond2112, on 18 January 2018 - 10:09 PM, said:

Question: Where is it?

Answer:  It is wherever you want it to be.  It is a work of fiction.  Use your imagination and locate it anywhere you want.

Beat me to it. Exactly what I was going to say.

Same here.

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 08:43 AM

Tatooine.

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 09:00 AM

View PostBabycat, on 19 January 2018 - 08:43 AM, said:

Tatooine.

...which is actually a name adapted from a city in Tunisia, Tataouine.

https://en.m.wikiped.../wiki/Tataouine

Never thought of the Solar Federation as being in southern Tunisia. Interesting.

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 09:11 AM

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 19 January 2018 - 09:00 AM, said:

View PostBabycat, on 19 January 2018 - 08:43 AM, said:

Tatooine.

...which is actually a name adapted from a city in Tunisia, Tataouine.

https://en.m.wikiped.../wiki/Tataouine

Never thought of the Solar Federation as being in southern Tunisia. Interesting.

Just learned something new there. :)




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