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Poll: Episode VIII (41 member(s) have cast votes)

How would you grade The Last Jedi?

  1. A+ (2 votes [4.88%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.88%

  2. A (4 votes [9.76%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.76%

  3. A- (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. B+ (4 votes [9.76%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.76%

  5. B (6 votes [14.63%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 14.63%

  6. B- (5 votes [12.20%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.20%

  7. C+ (3 votes [7.32%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.32%

  8. C (4 votes [9.76%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.76%

  9. C- (6 votes [14.63%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 14.63%

  10. D+ (1 votes [2.44%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.44%

  11. D (2 votes [4.88%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.88%

  12. D- (2 votes [4.88%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.88%

  13. F (2 votes [4.88%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.88%

Do you plan on seeing The Last Jedi in the cinema again?

  1. I already have! (7 votes [17.07%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 17.07%

  2. Definitely. (8 votes [19.51%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 19.51%

  3. Maybe. (10 votes [24.39%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 24.39%

  4. Definitely not! (16 votes [39.02%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 39.02%

The Last Jedi is better than... ((check the ones that apply))

  1. A New Hope (2 votes [1.75%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.75%

  2. The Empire Strikes Back (3 votes [2.63%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.63%

  3. Return of the Jedi (7 votes [6.14%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.14%

  4. Phantom Menace (28 votes [24.56%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 24.56%

  5. Attack of the Clones (33 votes [28.95%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 28.95%

  6. Revenge of the Sith (23 votes [20.18%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.18%

  7. The Force Awakens (5 votes [4.39%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.39%

  8. Rogue One (7 votes [6.14%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.14%

  9. NONE!!! (6 votes [5.26%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 11:12 AM

Seeing it monday.  too busy this weekend.

Didn't read or watch ANY vids about it lol

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 11:16 AM

View Postbluefox4000, on 16 December 2017 - 11:12 AM, said:

Seeing it monday.  too busy this weekend.

Didn't read or watch ANY vids about it lol

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You skipped vids about it but you come to the one thread that would CERTAINLY have spoilers?!

You maniac! ;)

Just looking at these poll numbers and though only 7 voters so far, you can see that TRF is all over the place on this

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 11:19 AM

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 16 December 2017 - 11:16 AM, said:

View Postbluefox4000, on 16 December 2017 - 11:12 AM, said:

Seeing it monday.  too busy this weekend.

Didn't read or watch ANY vids about it lol

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You skipped vids about it but you come to the one thread that would CERTAINLY have spoilers?!

You maniac! ;)

Just looking at these poll numbers and though only 7 voters so far, you can see that TRF is all over the place on this

lol.  well i didn't actually read the thread i just replied, lol

but i'll have my thoughts monday evening.  i don't know if it's good or awful yet.....so i'm still excited.

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 11:42 AM

Just saw it last night. I give it a C+.

Had a couple of goosebump moments, when Kylo and Rey joined together to defeat the guard, the final scene with Luke. Other than that, it was ok.Thought the script, especially Luke's part, was a real stunner. It just wasn't that good. He had an arrogance that wasn't present in the original, and was a total dick. Carrie Fisher performance was meh (RIP). Does anyone here think she could act her way out of a paper bag? It's on the same level as Jake Lloyd from Menace. A WTF moment was with the introduction of Chewbacca. Not even a hug from Luke? The opening scene with Poe and Hux, though funny, was out of place for a Star Wars movie. Other than that, think about the battle with the AT-AT's on the salt planet...straight outta the Hoth playbook, right down to the trenches and binocular shots with them in the distance. All in all, way too long.

The Force Awakens blows this one out of the water. JJ, please come back

Empire: A+
New Hope: A+
Force Awakens: A
Rogue One: B
Return: B-
Last Jedi: C+
Revenge: D
Clones: D
Phantom: F-

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 12:13 PM

Hated the "Looney Tunes" comedy like, "I'll hold".  What a stupid bit!  It took me out of the movie for a few minutes as my brain had to recalibrate.  The action and overall story I really enjoyed.

Han can pull off a one liner, Poe can't...

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 12:30 PM

View Postwillowroolz, on 16 December 2017 - 06:30 AM, said:

I'll give it a C. I was very disappointed by it.  It was way, way, WAY too long, for a start.  It dragged horribly in places.  The whole code breaker/casino plot that took up the middle of the film was totally pointless and should have been cut - it was just there to give Finn something to do because Rey was off doing the only important bit (and splitting up Rey and Finn for most of the film was a huge mistake for me as their relationship was one of the better aspects of TFA).  They spent just as much time here retreading stuff from the previous films.  Even the throne room scene, which was the best bit of the movie, was just a RotJ replay, light v dark side, emperor type character, space battle outside etc etc.  And when that looked like doing something interesting, in having Rey and Kylo team up, they bottled it and went down the predictable path and wasted the chance.  Luke's storyline didn't sit comfortably with me.  Hammill did a good job but I thought it was a wasted opportunity as well.

The worst thing for me was that I found it a bit uninvolving.  I realised, after the throne room fight, that I didn't care what happened to the characters.  I wasn't expecting that because I really liked Rey, Finn and Poe in TFA.

On the plus side, it was good to see Carrie Fisher one last time.  I thought they'd killed Leia off via cgi at one point but Luke had obviously trained her in the ways of the Force.  I wonder how they'll deal with the character in ep 9.

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I liked the codebreaker storyline.  I bet he ends up in the final movie of this trilogy.  Kind of like Han started, "To the highest bidder".

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 12:34 PM

View PostPressure/Hopenosis, on 16 December 2017 - 12:30 PM, said:

I liked the codebreaker storyline.  I bet he ends up in the final movie of this trilogy.  Kind of like Han started, "To the highest bidder".

I liked it, too.  There is much potential for the character of DJ the codebreaker.  Finn and Rose will obviously want to make him pay for his treachery, but the Resistance could also want to employ his services to help them defeat the First Order once and for all.

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 12:55 PM

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 16 December 2017 - 02:16 AM, said:

View PostUnion 5-3992, on 16 December 2017 - 01:48 AM, said:

^ Actually now that I think about it R1 and 6 are kind of a tie for me

They’re the two that’d be the closest (points-wise, if there were such a scale)...maybe like an A- and B+ respectively. Empire would certainly be an A+ and A New Hope an A. So maybe like this:

Empire: A+
New Hope: A
Return: A-
Rogue One: B+
Force Awakens: B
Last Jedi: B-
Revenge: D+
Clones: D
Phantom: F dammit!!!

You guys must be hardcore Star Wars !!  I thoroughly enjoyed Phantom, Attack and Clones.  Not nearly on par with the first 3 movies, but definitely not as bad as you guys think.

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 12:58 PM

After sleeping on it, I'm not sure I'm ready to put this above 5. Above 6, 3, and R1, yes, but above 5? I'm gonna have to wait till I see it again tomorrow morning to figure that out. And if I do like it more than 5, then beating out 7 is still unlikely, though I feel 8 has more depth than 7. Also I'm pretty confident it won't top 4, as nothing seems to be able to. 4 is so perfect and it starts without any preconceived ideas of who these characters have to be or how it's going to continue after its finale. It stands on its own and still blows me away every time. Not something I'm sure they're ever going to be able to beat in this trilogy or the next. But hey, 8 is still an A+ for me.

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 01:00 PM

View PostMithrandir, on 16 December 2017 - 12:55 PM, said:

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 16 December 2017 - 02:16 AM, said:

View PostUnion 5-3992, on 16 December 2017 - 01:48 AM, said:

^ Actually now that I think about it R1 and 6 are kind of a tie for me

They’re the two that’d be the closest (points-wise, if there were such a scale)...maybe like an A- and B+ respectively. Empire would certainly be an A+ and A New Hope an A. So maybe like this:

Empire: A+
New Hope: A
Return: A-
Rogue One: B+
Force Awakens: B
Last Jedi: B-
Revenge: D+
Clones: D
Phantom: F dammit!!!

You guys must be hardcore Star Wars !!  I thoroughly enjoyed Phantom, Attack and Clones.  Not nearly on par with the first 3 movies, but definitely not as bad as you guys think.

Yes! Also I don't get why people hate Phantom so much more than Clones. Much as enjoy all three prequels, even I'll admit half of Clones is barely watchable because of the "romance" between Anakin and Padme and how terribly the whole thing is performed (and written). Phantom is heartwarming! Solid B- from me at worst.

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 01:25 PM

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 16 December 2017 - 12:58 PM, said:

4 is so perfect and it starts without any preconceived ideas of who these characters have to be or how it's going to continue after its finale. It stands on its own and still blows me away every time. Not something I'm sure they're ever going to be able to beat in this trilogy or the next. But hey, 8 is still an A+ for me.

With all due respect to everyone, this is the biggest trap (yes, IT'S A TRAP!!) for Star Wars fans.  Constantly comparing a new release to the other films, ranking them, slotting one film as better or worse than others, scrutinizing them to the point of obsession.....

Luke tried to tell us.....This is not going to go the way you think!......but we do not listen!  Our pre-conceived expectations of what the characters are going to do and where the storyline is going are the main cause of our disappointment.  Fans should free their minds of everything - the legendary greatness of the original trilogy, the failures of the prequels and everything else.  Experience the current episodes for what they are, and not for what they aren't.  :) :)

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 01:31 PM

View PostPrincipled Man, on 16 December 2017 - 01:25 PM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 16 December 2017 - 12:58 PM, said:

4 is so perfect and it starts without any preconceived ideas of who these characters have to be or how it's going to continue after its finale. It stands on its own and still blows me away every time. Not something I'm sure they're ever going to be able to beat in this trilogy or the next. But hey, 8 is still an A+ for me.

With all due respect to everyone, this is the biggest trap (yes, IT'S A TRAP!!) for Star Wars fans.  Constantly comparing a new release to the other films, ranking them, slotting one film as better or worse than others, scrutinizing them to the point of obsession.....

Luke tried to tell us.....This is not going to go the way you think!......but we do not listen!  Our pre-conceived expectations of what the characters are going to do and where the storyline is going are the main cause of our disappointment.  Fans should free their minds of everything - the legendary greatness of the original trilogy, the failures of the prequels and everything else.  Experience the current episodes for what they are, and not for what they aren't.  :) :)

With all due respect, I refuse to let the past die, or kill it if I must. That path is opposed to the light side. ;)

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 02:16 PM

View PostPrincipled Man, on 16 December 2017 - 12:34 PM, said:

View PostPressure/Hopenosis, on 16 December 2017 - 12:30 PM, said:

I liked the codebreaker storyline.  I bet he ends up in the final movie of this trilogy.  Kind of like Han started, "To the highest bidder".

I liked it, too.  There is much potential for the character of DJ the codebreaker.  Finn and Rose will obviously want to make him pay for his treachery, but the Resistance could also want to employ his services to help them defeat the First Order once and for all.
The first thing I though was it was going to be Lando.  In a casino, in a high stakes game?  Now that would've been kick ass to see him (at some point) with Chewbacca back on the Millennium Falcon!

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 03:38 PM

Captain Phasma was a big let down for me.  Should've beat Finn within an inch of his life then died.  Could've been an epic scene but ended up just being good...

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 03:42 PM

My son's prediction is that Rey will be the next jedi with two lightsabers.  Since Luke's saber was split in two and she now two crystals to construct her weapons...

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 07:41 PM

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 16 December 2017 - 01:00 PM, said:

View PostMithrandir, on 16 December 2017 - 12:55 PM, said:

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 16 December 2017 - 02:16 AM, said:

View PostUnion 5-3992, on 16 December 2017 - 01:48 AM, said:

^ Actually now that I think about it R1 and 6 are kind of a tie for me

They’re the two that’d be the closest (points-wise, if there were such a scale)...maybe like an A- and B+ respectively. Empire would certainly be an A+ and A New Hope an A. So maybe like this:

Empire: A+
New Hope: A
Return: A-
Rogue One: B+
Force Awakens: B
Last Jedi: B-
Revenge: D+
Clones: D
Phantom: F dammit!!!

You guys must be hardcore Star Wars !!  I thoroughly enjoyed Phantom, Attack and Clones.  Not nearly on par with the first 3 movies, but definitely not as bad as you guys think.

Yes! Also I don't get why people hate Phantom so much more than Clones. Much as enjoy all three prequels, even I'll admit half of Clones is barely watchable because of the "romance" between Anakin and Padme and how terribly the whole thing is performed (and written). Phantom is heartwarming! Solid B- from me at worst.

I’m not sure what “You guys must be hardcore Star Wars !!” is supposed to mean.


Top 3 Reasons Why I Gave Phantom an F:

1) little Ani...hated that kid the first time I saw it in the cine
2) Midiclorins...the Force is nothing but molecules
3) Jar Jar...intended comedy that wasn’t funny to me

Bonus garbage:

4) too much CGI
5) Maul’s just a thug
6)
Ani: I don’t want to leave you mom!
Mom: You must Ani.
Ani: But I can’t.
Mom: It’s your destiny.
Ani: Ok.


The good about Phantom:
1) Jinn & Obi vs Maul fight scene
2) film score

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 07:51 PM

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 08:05 PM

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 16 December 2017 - 07:41 PM, said:

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 16 December 2017 - 01:00 PM, said:

View PostMithrandir, on 16 December 2017 - 12:55 PM, said:

View PostJohnnyBlaze, on 16 December 2017 - 02:16 AM, said:

View PostUnion 5-3992, on 16 December 2017 - 01:48 AM, said:

^ Actually now that I think about it R1 and 6 are kind of a tie for me

They’re the two that’d be the closest (points-wise, if there were such a scale)...maybe like an A- and B+ respectively. Empire would certainly be an A+ and A New Hope an A. So maybe like this:

Empire: A+
New Hope: A
Return: A-
Rogue One: B+
Force Awakens: B
Last Jedi: B-
Revenge: D+
Clones: D
Phantom: F dammit!!!

You guys must be hardcore Star Wars !!  I thoroughly enjoyed Phantom, Attack and Clones.  Not nearly on par with the first 3 movies, but definitely not as bad as you guys think.

Yes! Also I don't get why people hate Phantom so much more than Clones. Much as enjoy all three prequels, even I'll admit half of Clones is barely watchable because of the "romance" between Anakin and Padme and how terribly the whole thing is performed (and written). Phantom is heartwarming! Solid B- from me at worst.

I’m not sure what “You guys must be hardcore Star Wars !!” is supposed to mean.


Top 3 Reasons Why I Gave Phantom an F:

1) little Ani...hated that kid the first time I saw it in the cine
2) Midiclorins...the Force is nothing but molecules
3) Jar Jar...intended comedy that wasn’t funny to me

Bonus garbage:

4) too much CGI
5) Maul’s just a thug
6)
Ani: I don’t want to leave you mom!
Mom: You must Ani.
Ani: But I can’t.
Mom: It’s your destiny.
Ani: Ok.


The good about Phantom:
1) Jinn & Obi vs Maul fight scene
2) film score

To me, the vast majority of bad things about the Star Wars films have to do with bad dialgoue and bad acting.  The CGI overload was an issue, and the Ewoks and JarJar.......but the dialogue......even Mark Hamill hated some of it.  A smart script and better actors could have saved all the films.

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 09:00 PM

I broke and actually went tonight.......

so......i thought the first 45 mins or so was a tad slow i found myself drifting at points.

but when it picked up......hot damn was i having fun.

i loved loved LOVED.  all the training and interaction with Luke and Rey.

and Hammil is fantastic in this film.

What made me  a little......more than alittle Mad.....Snoke.  big mystery amounts to..........nothin' lol

I will say Again....i love Kylo Ren......don't Care......he's my spirit animal, lol

I kinda love that after he offs Snoke.  he kinda goes insane. and that stand off With Luke.......so good.....SO GOOD!! lol.

Anyway i'd say the little side quest that Finn was on......i tuned out.  ya know with him and the girl.  don't care. A casino????? Really?

But the main movie.....Rey Kylo, Luke.  i loved all of that.

I'm going again monday.....cause i always see star wars at least twice.  so i can formulate more.

side note.....Yoda Cameo.......yes please.  that was great. solid B+ Right now.

Rankings

1. Empire Strikes Back
2. Revenge of the sith (yes really, lol)
3. A new Hope
4. The Last Jedi
5. The Force Awakens.
6. Return of the Jedi
7. The Phantom Menace
8. Attack of the clones

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Posted 16 December 2017 - 09:14 PM

View Postbluefox4000, on 16 December 2017 - 09:00 PM, said:

I broke and actually went tonight.......

so......i thought the first 45 mins or so was a tad slow i found myself drifting at points.

but when it picked up......hot damn was i having fun.

i loved loved LOVED.  all the training and interaction with Luke and Rey.

and Hammil is fantastic in this film.

What made me  a little......more than alittle Mad.....Snoke.  big mystery amounts to..........nothin' lol

I will say Again....i love Kylo Ren......don't Care......he's my spirit animal, lol

I kinda love that after he offs Snoke.  he kinda goes insane. and that stand off With Luke.......so good.....SO GOOD!! lol.

Anyway i'd say the little side quest that Finn was on......i tuned out.  ya know with him and the girl.  don't care. A casino????? Really?

But the main movie.....Rey Kylo, Luke.  i loved all of that.

I'm going again monday.....cause i always see star wars at least twice.  so i can formulate more.

side note.....Yoda Cameo.......yes please.  that was great. solid B+ Right now.

Rankings

1. Empire Strikes Back
2. Revenge of the sith (yes really, lol)
3. A new Hope
4. The Last Jedi
5. The Force Awakens.
6. Return of the Jedi
7. The Phantom Menace
8. Attack of the clones

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