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Posted 01 December 2017 - 08:28 AM

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My one hope is that this exposure doesn't become so common that everyone becomes complacent about it; 'oh that's just hollywood, or whatever'. There should be exposure to the truth...shine the light on the cockroaches and make them run.
I have wondered why they are doing this and that possibility ran through my mind.

It wouldn't be surprising since we have been conditioned to accept anything and allow ourselves to be brainwashed into thinking it's normal.

Hence the reception I got from the police.

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Posted 01 December 2017 - 09:49 AM

Another thought is that I frequently hear locally on the news is about 'backlogs' of untested rape kits. If it takes years to bring someone to justice for rape, then no wonder it's under-reported. Sad.

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Posted 01 December 2017 - 11:21 PM

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Very few people, famous or not, are "doing this" but the media will be sure and tell us about every one they can which makes it seem like all males are harassers or abusers.

I very much disagree.  I think very few, if any, AREN'T doing it.

When it comes to the "Most are doing it" and the "Most are not doing it" arguments, the truth is usually in the middle somewhere.

The media will be sure to tell us all about the rich, famous and powerful men who are doing it.  We are already being shown every little thing about Matt Lauer's workplace behavior, his marriage, his financial situation, his farm in New Zealand, etc.   The media's agenda hasn't changed one bit, even when they themselves are the subject of scandal.  The agenda is to do whatever it takes to increase ratings and revenue.  This means do stories on Matt Lauer, Weinstein, Louis CK, and anyone else who has been accused of misconduct.  

As for non-famous people, the everyday employee and employer, and the harassment and misconduct that they commit, the media couldn't care less.

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Posted 01 December 2017 - 11:31 PM

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I can't understand what the mindset of these guys are that makes them conclude that any woman is for the taking.


Power corrupts.  It comes down to that simple truism.    

Fame & fortune brings you the power to do things that you could never do if you were a nobody.  Fame & fortune also corrupts your mind.  Your inflated ego is convinced that your female (or male) coworkers will enjoy your flirting, your touching, and your advancements.

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 02:29 AM

View PostHemiBeers, on 01 December 2017 - 09:49 AM, said:

Another thought is that I frequently hear locally on the news is about 'backlogs' of untested rape kits. If it takes years to bring someone to justice for rape, then no wonder it's under-reported. Sad.

Yes, and it's not just the backlogs that contribute to cases going unreported.  We must also consider other elements involved in getting a conviction...aspects like the trial and sentencing.  I'm a rape survivor myself and have done volunteer work with other survivors and their loved ones, and it has been uncommon for me to encounter survivors who readily choose to pursue charges.  Three of the most common concerns I hear are related to:
- the possibility of not being believed when making the initial report
- fear/humiliation/discomfort at a potential trial
- perception that a conviction is unlikely and furthermore that, even if it happens, a sentence will be short

Sad indeed.

Edited by bean-tor, 02 December 2017 - 02:32 AM.


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Posted 02 December 2017 - 12:48 PM

Our "justice" system is in dire need of reform and fast.  If citizens don't start getting justice, they will just start to take justice into their own hands.

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Posted 02 December 2017 - 06:19 PM

This is the cesspool we live in:  http://www.nj.gov/oa...r20171201a.html

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 11:07 AM

They have always known. Check out this roast of Lauer back in 2008.

https://www.google.c...havior.amp.html

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 11:41 AM

View PostXanadoood, on 06 December 2017 - 11:07 AM, said:

They have always known.

In many, many workplaces, everyone knows what goes on.....but no one wants to "cause trouble".  The Code of Silence remains intact.

The only difference between today and yesterday is that people are now speaking out.  They're no longer afraid of causing trouble.....and getting in trouble

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 11:54 AM

With all the vacancies in the “industry” I’m considering retaking my college filmmaking classes.

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 12:19 PM

Many of them should be in prison, Spacey among them.  Not to mention Singer who's scrambling to save his hide.

If they had any conscience or integrity, they'd cancel the Oscars.   But people love to pretend all is well, and there's no lack of others to play along.

Edited by Lorraine, 06 December 2017 - 12:21 PM.


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Posted 06 December 2017 - 12:22 PM

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 07:55 AM

Any Human who does this kind of stuff to other Humans desparately DESERVES to have massive infusions of LEAD into their BRAINS...
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Posted 07 December 2017 - 08:04 AM

View PostLorraine, on 06 December 2017 - 12:19 PM, said:

Many of them should be in prison, Spacey among them.  Not to mention Singer who's scrambling to save his hide.

If they had any conscience or integrity, they'd cancel the Oscars.   But people love to pretend all is well, and there's no lack of others to play along.

Do you believe ALL Hollywood actors and actresses have sexually assaulted someone?

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 01:29 PM

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View PostLorraine, on 06 December 2017 - 12:19 PM, said:

Many of them should be in prison, Spacey among them.  Not to mention Singer who's scrambling to save his hide.

If they had any conscience or integrity, they'd cancel the Oscars.   But people love to pretend all is well, and there's no lack of others to play along.

Do you believe ALL Hollywood actors and actresses have sexually assaulted someone?

My thoughts exactly. But it does seem bad taste to see Hollywood celebrate success knowing full well many in the industry have caused such harm.

But you know...try as I might I still love the world of fashion, the artistry and the lifestyle. I got hurt more than most (and this is a fact, not self pity), but I can recall many good people and many very well secured events.

But yeah...the Academy would be fools to not acknowledge this severe issue next year. But the artists who deserve acclaim do not deserve to have their hard work tarnished or brushed aside for the many perverts.

But it is a tricky one. I think Lorraine is right to say it should at least be considered, but its also right to question the opposing side, as not everyone is an offender.

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Posted 07 December 2017 - 02:29 PM

Do you honestly think that anyone gets anywhere in Hollywood without paying a price?

Do you really think they get where they are on talent alone?

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 08:07 AM

View PostLorraine, on 07 December 2017 - 02:29 PM, said:

Do you honestly think that anyone gets anywhere in Hollywood without paying a price?

Do you really think they get where they are on talent alone?

Some do. Yes. There is definitely a sinister, nasty side to the Hollywood culture, but it's not EVERYBODY.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 08:08 AM

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 08:10 AM

They are all involved in one way or another.  Even if they don't participate, they aid and abet by keeping their mouth shut to save their career.  Those that can't stomach it fade away into oblivion.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 08:42 AM

View PostLorraine, on 08 December 2017 - 08:10 AM, said:

They are all involved in one way or another.  Even if they don't participate, they aid and abet by keeping their mouth shut to save their career.  Those that can't stomach it fade away into oblivion.

Your post only convinces me that you’re unclear about what “aiding and abetting” means.




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