

Ozzy Osbourne "Farewell" Tour
#21
Posted 07 November 2017 - 11:46 AM
#23
Posted 07 November 2017 - 09:54 PM
#24
Posted 08 November 2017 - 08:25 PM
#25
Posted 09 November 2017 - 01:35 PM
First of all, I don't get the hate. Ozzy's voice has gotten better in the last 5 or so years since he FINALLY got sober. He also has quit cancelling shows since he FINALLY got sober. He always has a top notch bunch of musicians backing him solo and the shows, while not 3 hours are a decent length. His catalog is very worthy. Etc., etc., etc. You don't want to spend the coin to see him, fine. But if you think he's an addled old man that can't perform, you'd be wrong.
Now as for Sharon, hate her all you want but without her Ozzy would've been dead 20 years ago. And if you think it's her pushing him to perform still, you're not paying attention. He, like many of his contemporaries (McCartney, Jagger, et. al.) NEEDS the positive feedback of a live audience and of course enjoys making money too. Who doesn't?
Will he retire after this tour? Maybe, but if so I'm guessing it'll be about a 3-4 year process and frankly I don't know if he's capable of doing it particularly since his voice has gotten stronger as mentioned previously. And if he doesn't, he'll join himself, The Who, Kiss, et. al. in not actually doing so when they said they would. By now, if you're taking these "retirement" tours seriously from any artists, you've not been paying attention the last 20 years. Besides, who cares? If you like an artists and have the coin to spend on seeing them live, go for it. If you don't or can't afford it, stay home.
Edited by driventotheedge, 09 November 2017 - 01:38 PM.
#26
Posted 09 November 2017 - 03:44 PM
#27
Posted 09 November 2017 - 03:50 PM
I know there isn't anything else for the older rock stars to do except go out and tour. It's all they've done their whole lives and it's all they know. It's just the whole farewell thing has been done to death and nobody buys it.
#28
Posted 09 November 2017 - 04:47 PM
J2112YYZ, on 09 November 2017 - 03:50 PM, said:
I know there isn't anything else for the older rock stars to do except go out and tour. It's all they've done their whole lives and it's all they know. It's just the whole farewell thing has been done to death and nobody buys it.
#29
Posted 09 November 2017 - 07:25 PM
#30
Posted 09 November 2017 - 09:19 PM
#31
Posted 09 November 2017 - 09:52 PM
Now it appears he'll be touring without a new album. That disappoints me, just like Sabbath did when they also didn't record anything new for a farewell and just played the same old songs. I understand financially why artists do that, but I still hate it because I care more about new music than seeing a rehashed show.
And yeah, the main problem with live Ozzy is there's only a handful of songs he has the range to sing. So you can pretty much predict the set list now. The only question is how many of the Sabbath tunes will he throw in.
He's still a legend and people should go if they've never seen him, but it's definitely time.
#32
Posted 09 November 2017 - 09:55 PM
Syrinx, on 07 November 2017 - 11:12 AM, said:
I had the opportunity to see him on his first Blizzard of Ozz tour (With Randy Rhoads 1981) and thought it was amazing... I saw his return to Black Sabbath tour in 1999, and thought he should give it up after that. He was in pretty bad shape.
#33
Posted 09 November 2017 - 10:41 PM
TexMike, on 09 November 2017 - 09:52 PM, said:
Now it appears he'll be touring without a new album. That disappoints me, just like Sabbath did when they also didn't record anything new for a farewell and just played the same old songs. I understand financially why artists do that, but I still hate it because I care more about new music than seeing a rehashed show.
And yeah, the main problem with live Ozzy is there's only a handful of songs he has the range to sing. So you can pretty much predict the set list now. The only question is how many of the Sabbath tunes will he throw in.
He's still a legend and people should go if they've never seen him, but it's definitely time.
Whether Ozzy has new music or not doesn't matter because he wouldn't play any of it. He'll play whatever the lead single is and maybe one other that will be the follow up single and that's it. How many new tunes did Sabbath end up doing off 13? Three or four I think. It's been pointless for him to even have new material for almost 20 years now. I think it's a waste of time for anyone to record a new album and then not play a good chunk of it live. Why bother releasing anything but a couple singles if the bulk of the new material never makes the live set?
#34
Posted 10 November 2017 - 12:26 AM
J2112YYZ, on 09 November 2017 - 10:41 PM, said:
TexMike, on 09 November 2017 - 09:52 PM, said:
Now it appears he'll be touring without a new album. That disappoints me, just like Sabbath did when they also didn't record anything new for a farewell and just played the same old songs. I understand financially why artists do that, but I still hate it because I care more about new music than seeing a rehashed show.
And yeah, the main problem with live Ozzy is there's only a handful of songs he has the range to sing. So you can pretty much predict the set list now. The only question is how many of the Sabbath tunes will he throw in.
He's still a legend and people should go if they've never seen him, but it's definitely time.
Whether Ozzy has new music or not doesn't matter because he wouldn't play any of it. He'll play whatever the lead single is and maybe one other that will be the follow up single and that's it. How many new tunes did Sabbath end up doing off 13? Three or four I think. It's been pointless for him to even have new material for almost 20 years now. I think it's a waste of time for anyone to record a new album and then not play a good chunk of it live. Why bother releasing anything but a couple singles if the bulk of the new material never makes the live set?
Well, you're right that he'd play very little from a new release live. That's a given. But like I said previously, I'd still be more interested in new music than another tour, regardless of whether he'd perform any of that new music at a show. If an album is decent, I don't not listen to it simply because some or even most of it didn't get played live.
Sabbath's 13 wasn't ultimately quite as good (IMO) as any albums from their original era, but I'm still damn happy I got new music from a band that I love. And for me, 4 new songs at a show is usually plenty. That's how many Rush played per night on the VT tour.
The problem with Ozzy's "farewell" show is that we know he won't dig out rare gems from the back catalog (ala Rush on R40) because he's only comfortable singing a predictable batch of songs. So without at least something new in the form of an album, it's a pretty anti-climactic way to go out. Just my opinion.
#35
Posted 23 November 2017 - 11:07 PM
J2112YYZ, on 09 November 2017 - 10:41 PM, said:
TexMike, on 09 November 2017 - 09:52 PM, said:
Now it appears he'll be touring without a new album. That disappoints me, just like Sabbath did when they also didn't record anything new for a farewell and just played the same old songs. I understand financially why artists do that, but I still hate it because I care more about new music than seeing a rehashed show.
And yeah, the main problem with live Ozzy is there's only a handful of songs he has the range to sing. So you can pretty much predict the set list now. The only question is how many of the Sabbath tunes will he throw in.
He's still a legend and people should go if they've never seen him, but it's definitely time.
Whether Ozzy has new music or not doesn't matter because he wouldn't play any of it. He'll play whatever the lead single is and maybe one other that will be the follow up single and that's it. How many new tunes did Sabbath end up doing off 13? Three or four I think. It's been pointless for him to even have new material for almost 20 years now. I think it's a waste of time for anyone to record a new album and then not play a good chunk of it live. Why bother releasing anything but a couple singles if the bulk of the new material never makes the live set?
J2112YYZ, on 09 November 2017 - 10:41 PM, said:
TexMike, on 09 November 2017 - 09:52 PM, said:
Now it appears he'll be touring without a new album. That disappoints me, just like Sabbath did when they also didn't record anything new for a farewell and just played the same old songs. I understand financially why artists do that, but I still hate it because I care more about new music than seeing a rehashed show.
And yeah, the main problem with live Ozzy is there's only a handful of songs he has the range to sing. So you can pretty much predict the set list now. The only question is how many of the Sabbath tunes will he throw in.
He's still a legend and people should go if they've never seen him, but it's definitely time.
Whether Ozzy has new music or not doesn't matter because he wouldn't play any of it. He'll play whatever the lead single is and maybe one other that will be the follow up single and that's it. How many new tunes did Sabbath end up doing off 13? Three or four I think. It's been pointless for him to even have new material for almost 20 years now. I think it's a waste of time for anyone to record a new album and then not play a good chunk of it live. Why bother releasing anything but a couple singles if the bulk of the new material never makes the live set?
#37
Posted 23 November 2017 - 11:15 PM
Union 5-3992, on 23 November 2017 - 11:07 PM, said:
J2112YYZ, on 09 November 2017 - 10:41 PM, said:
TexMike, on 09 November 2017 - 09:52 PM, said:
Now it appears he'll be touring without a new album. That disappoints me, just like Sabbath did when they also didn't record anything new for a farewell and just played the same old songs. I understand financially why artists do that, but I still hate it because I care more about new music than seeing a rehashed show.
And yeah, the main problem with live Ozzy is there's only a handful of songs he has the range to sing. So you can pretty much predict the set list now. The only question is how many of the Sabbath tunes will he throw in.
He's still a legend and people should go if they've never seen him, but it's definitely time.
Whether Ozzy has new music or not doesn't matter because he wouldn't play any of it. He'll play whatever the lead single is and maybe one other that will be the follow up single and that's it. How many new tunes did Sabbath end up doing off 13? Three or four I think. It's been pointless for him to even have new material for almost 20 years now. I think it's a waste of time for anyone to record a new album and then not play a good chunk of it live. Why bother releasing anything but a couple singles if the bulk of the new material never makes the live set?
J2112YYZ, on 09 November 2017 - 10:41 PM, said:
TexMike, on 09 November 2017 - 09:52 PM, said:
Now it appears he'll be touring without a new album. That disappoints me, just like Sabbath did when they also didn't record anything new for a farewell and just played the same old songs. I understand financially why artists do that, but I still hate it because I care more about new music than seeing a rehashed show.
And yeah, the main problem with live Ozzy is there's only a handful of songs he has the range to sing. So you can pretty much predict the set list now. The only question is how many of the Sabbath tunes will he throw in.
He's still a legend and people should go if they've never seen him, but it's definitely time.
Whether Ozzy has new music or not doesn't matter because he wouldn't play any of it. He'll play whatever the lead single is and maybe one other that will be the follow up single and that's it. How many new tunes did Sabbath end up doing off 13? Three or four I think. It's been pointless for him to even have new material for almost 20 years now. I think it's a waste of time for anyone to record a new album and then not play a good chunk of it live. Why bother releasing anything but a couple singles if the bulk of the new material never makes the live set?
They didn't do anything off it as far as I know. Maybe they did one of them a handful of times but it wasn't anything regular. Everyone goes to hear the classics anyways, so I get the setlist choices. The diehards who enjoy everything and want to hear different stuff are few and far between at most arena rock shows.
#38
Posted 25 November 2017 - 06:19 PM
J2112YYZ, on 09 November 2017 - 10:41 PM, said:
TexMike, on 09 November 2017 - 09:52 PM, said:
Now it appears he'll be touring without a new album. That disappoints me, just like Sabbath did when they also didn't record anything new for a farewell and just played the same old songs. I understand financially why artists do that, but I still hate it because I care more about new music than seeing a rehashed show.
And yeah, the main problem with live Ozzy is there's only a handful of songs he has the range to sing. So you can pretty much predict the set list now. The only question is how many of the Sabbath tunes will he throw in.
He's still a legend and people should go if they've never seen him, but it's definitely time.
Whether Ozzy has new music or not doesn't matter because he wouldn't play any of it. He'll play whatever the lead single is and maybe one other that will be the follow up single and that's it. How many new tunes did Sabbath end up doing off 13? Three or four I think. It's been pointless for him to even have new material for almost 20 years now. I think it's a waste of time for anyone to record a new album and then not play a good chunk of it live. Why bother releasing anything but a couple singles if the bulk of the new material never makes the live set?
It's funny how much lasting damage Ozzy's reality show caused, even a decade and a half later. Those shows embarrass Ozzy himself. (...that's gotta be hard to do, given his history...) Now a whole generation of rock fans thinks he's a drooling idiot. Sad. He was over-medicated all to hell. I saw him in '07... it was a bit rough. He started that tour at White Rock Amphiteater and was flat for 3 or 4 songs until he got rolling. Too reliant on the water hose and other gimmicks. Saw him in 2010 (2011?), quite different. Cohesive, jovial, funny. Not a return to 1983, but pretty damn good. He must have cleaned up a bit by then. Sabbath '13 was OK to good for him, better for the band.
I'll no doubt buy the next album. Go to the tour? Dunno, though that's partly me. I just don't see as many big shows as I used to. Maybe. I know our heroes are closing out for good. I've seen a few. Just saw the Scorpions/Megadeth show In Tacoma. It was good. Made me kinda feel it that this whole stadium rock thing is starting to slip away.
Ozzy has always had a lot of ridicule leveled at him. Always. Well, he does set himself up for a good bit of it. Glad he's going for his last round. Maybe I'll be there.
#39
Posted 26 November 2017 - 11:41 AM
J2112YYZ, on 06 November 2017 - 09:08 PM, said:
#40
Posted 26 November 2017 - 11:49 AM
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