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#21 LeaveMyThingAlone

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 12:42 PM

View Postedhunter, on 02 November 2017 - 04:16 AM, said:

View Postgrasbo, on 01 November 2017 - 11:43 PM, said:

Since Neil didn't write a lurrv song till Cold Fire I consider all his lyrics to be platonic.

It was long after midnight, when we got to unconditional love....

I can only imagine what Geddy thought when he read that for the first time.

Neil doesn't do sex well.

No, no he doesn't. But I also wouldn't expect him to just because he had been married so long and I'd guess was probably faithful or very close. And I can attest to the fact that when your marriage gets into double digits, "getting to unconditional love after Midnight" is about as steamy as it gets at that point in a marriage.

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 01:07 PM

View PostLeaveMyThingAlone, on 02 November 2017 - 12:42 PM, said:

View Postedhunter, on 02 November 2017 - 04:16 AM, said:

View Postgrasbo, on 01 November 2017 - 11:43 PM, said:

Since Neil didn't write a lurrv song till Cold Fire I consider all his lyrics to be platonic.

It was long after midnight, when we got to unconditional love....

I can only imagine what Geddy thought when he read that for the first time.

Neil doesn't do sex well.

No, no he doesn't. But I also wouldn't expect him to just because he had been married so long and I'd guess was probably faithful or very close. And I can attest to the fact that when your marriage gets into double digits, "getting to unconditional love after Midnight" is about as steamy as it gets at that point in a marriage.
I'm just happy with getting unconditional laundry done or dinner cooked. And I'm not picky about what time of day that happens.

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 01:16 PM

Don't put your idols on a pedestal.

They're human beings in a profession that isn't known for morals or much of anything else.

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 03:00 PM

View Postedhunter, on 02 November 2017 - 04:16 AM, said:

View Postgrasbo, on 01 November 2017 - 11:43 PM, said:

Since Neil didn't write a lurrv song till Cold Fire I consider all his lyrics to be platonic.

It was long after midnight, when we got to unconditional love....

I can only imagine what Geddy thought when he read that for the first time.

Neil doesn't do sex well.

Although Geddy doesn't sing it well either.
Anyone who has Rush on their shagging tape is disturbed.


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Posted 02 November 2017 - 04:03 PM

View PostLeaveMyThingAlone, on 02 November 2017 - 12:42 PM, said:

View Postedhunter, on 02 November 2017 - 04:16 AM, said:

View Postgrasbo, on 01 November 2017 - 11:43 PM, said:

Since Neil didn't write a lurrv song till Cold Fire I consider all his lyrics to be platonic.

It was long after midnight, when we got to unconditional love....

I can only imagine what Geddy thought when he read that for the first time.

Neil doesn't do sex well.

No, no he doesn't. But I also wouldn't expect him to just because he had been married so long and I'd guess was probably faithful or very close. And I can attest to the fact that when your marriage gets into double digits, "getting to unconditional love after Midnight" is about as steamy as it gets at that point in a marriage.

I've been married 13+years. There is absolutely no unconditional love after about 10pm or so...

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 04:45 PM

17 years for me and it stopped being unconditional about 16.5 years ago. Now it’s very conditional and in the window before 9pm and after 8:30

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 05:00 PM

View PostAnthemic, on 02 November 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

View PostFridge, on 02 November 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

What about Tears?...it's quite clearly a romantic ballad about love and loss, particularly the "my body was weak, for you...the truth" line.

geddy wrote tears

View PostAncient Ways, on 01 November 2017 - 09:12 PM, said:

Al and GED are clearly great friends.  Are they really that good of friends with Neil?  I’m not so sure.

i think that all three were probably closer friends in the earlier days but then they grew apart especially as neil started to lose interest in music and regard it more as a way of making money than a calling while meanwhile al and ged were still just as passionate about music as they ever had been.
Maybe. Neil seems hard t9 get to know

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 07:37 AM

View PostAncient Ways, on 02 November 2017 - 05:00 PM, said:

View PostAnthemic, on 02 November 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

View PostFridge, on 02 November 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

What about Tears?...it's quite clearly a romantic ballad about love and loss, particularly the "my body was weak, for you...the truth" line.

geddy wrote tears

View PostAncient Ways, on 01 November 2017 - 09:12 PM, said:

Al and GED are clearly great friends.  Are they really that good of friends with Neil?  I’m not so sure.

i think that all three were probably closer friends in the earlier days but then they grew apart especially as neil started to lose interest in music and regard it more as a way of making money than a calling while meanwhile al and ged were still just as passionate about music as they ever had been.
Maybe. Neil seems hard t9 get to know
Shocking.

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 11:17 AM

View PostAncient Ways, on 02 November 2017 - 05:00 PM, said:

View PostAnthemic, on 02 November 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

View PostFridge, on 02 November 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

What about Tears?...it's quite clearly a romantic ballad about love and loss, particularly the "my body was weak, for you...the truth" line.

geddy wrote tears

View PostAncient Ways, on 01 November 2017 - 09:12 PM, said:

Al and GED are clearly great friends.  Are they really that good of friends with Neil?  I’m not so sure.

i think that all three were probably closer friends in the earlier days but then they grew apart especially as neil started to lose interest in music and regard it more as a way of making money than a calling while meanwhile al and ged were still just as passionate about music as they ever had been.
Neil seems hard t9 get to know

Understatement of the year.

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 11:24 AM

View PostLeaveMyThingAlone, on 03 November 2017 - 11:17 AM, said:

View PostAncient Ways, on 02 November 2017 - 05:00 PM, said:

View PostAnthemic, on 02 November 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

View PostFridge, on 02 November 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

What about Tears?...it's quite clearly a romantic ballad about love and loss, particularly the "my body was weak, for you...the truth" line.

geddy wrote tears

View PostAncient Ways, on 01 November 2017 - 09:12 PM, said:

Al and GED are clearly great friends.  Are they really that good of friends with Neil?  I’m not so sure.

i think that all three were probably closer friends in the earlier days but then they grew apart especially as neil started to lose interest in music and regard it more as a way of making money than a calling while meanwhile al and ged were still just as passionate about music as they ever had been.
Neil seems hard t9 get to know

Understatement of the year.
It’s only in reply to those that buy the thought that Neil joined the band and they all became besties.  It’s more likely he sat alone reading a lot and working on lyrics and riding bikes than goofing around with a couple guys that had been friends for 10+ years but maybe that’s an understatement

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 11:40 AM

View PostAncient Ways, on 03 November 2017 - 11:24 AM, said:

View PostLeaveMyThingAlone, on 03 November 2017 - 11:17 AM, said:

View PostAncient Ways, on 02 November 2017 - 05:00 PM, said:

View PostAnthemic, on 02 November 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

View PostFridge, on 02 November 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

What about Tears?...it's quite clearly a romantic ballad about love and loss, particularly the "my body was weak, for you...the truth" line.

geddy wrote tears

View PostAncient Ways, on 01 November 2017 - 09:12 PM, said:

Al and GED are clearly great friends.  Are they really that good of friends with Neil?  I’m not so sure.

i think that all three were probably closer friends in the earlier days but then they grew apart especially as neil started to lose interest in music and regard it more as a way of making money than a calling while meanwhile al and ged were still just as passionate about music as they ever had been.
Neil seems hard t9 get to know

Understatement of the year.
It’s only in reply to those that buy the thought that Neil joined the band and they all became besties.  It’s more likely he sat alone reading a lot and working on lyrics and riding bikes than goofing around with a couple guys that had been friends for 10+ years but maybe that’s an understatement

I think that's probably the way it's always been, but they still travelled together in the early years and were able to have that bonding experience. Once Neil started traveling separately on his bike for these tours, that's probably when it really started to change. How could it not? Alex and Geddy together all the time, Neil meeting them at the concert saying hi and then taking off again. It's pretty telling and creates a better understanding of the communication within the band, or lack of it with Neil.

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 06:22 PM

View Postoghond2112, on 01 November 2017 - 09:05 PM, said:

Given how good friends the members of RUSH are in real life, I'm pretty shocked that Neil hasn't written a song regarding platonic relationships yet. (Well, there's "Entre Nous," but that can be interpreted romantically, too.)

Or am I missing something?
You just missed:
Animate
Cold Fire
Alien Shore
Ghost of a chance
Different Strings
Between sun & moon
Open Secrets
Stars look down
Analog Kid
Neurotica
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Posted 03 November 2017 - 08:19 PM

View PostAnthemic, on 02 November 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

View PostFridge, on 02 November 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

What about Tears?...it's quite clearly a romantic ballad about love and loss, particularly the "my body was weak, for you...the truth" line.

geddy wrote tears

View PostAncient Ways, on 01 November 2017 - 09:12 PM, said:

Al and GED are clearly great friends.  Are they really that good of friends with Neil?  I’m not so sure.

i think that all three were probably closer friends in the earlier days but then they grew apart especially as neil started to lose interest in music and regard it more as a way of making money than a calling while meanwhile al and ged were still just as passionate about music as they ever had been.

Imo Neil put everything he had left into Clockwork Angels.

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 08:29 PM

View PostLeaveMyThingAlone, on 03 November 2017 - 11:40 AM, said:

View PostAncient Ways, on 03 November 2017 - 11:24 AM, said:

View PostLeaveMyThingAlone, on 03 November 2017 - 11:17 AM, said:

View PostAncient Ways, on 02 November 2017 - 05:00 PM, said:

View PostAnthemic, on 02 November 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

View PostFridge, on 02 November 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

What about Tears?...it's quite clearly a romantic ballad about love and loss, particularly the "my body was weak, for you...the truth" line.

geddy wrote tears

View PostAncient Ways, on 01 November 2017 - 09:12 PM, said:

Al and GED are clearly great friends.  Are they really that good of friends with Neil?  I’m not so sure.

i think that all three were probably closer friends in the earlier days but then they grew apart especially as neil started to lose interest in music and regard it more as a way of making money than a calling while meanwhile al and ged were still just as passionate about music as they ever had been.
Neil seems hard t9 get to know

Understatement of the year.
It’s only in reply to those that buy the thought that Neil joined the band and they all became besties.  It’s more likely he sat alone reading a lot and working on lyrics and riding bikes than goofing around with a couple guys that had been friends for 10+ years but maybe that’s an understatement

I think that's probably the way it's always been, but they still travelled together in the early years and were able to have that bonding experience. Once Neil started traveling separately on his bike for these tours, that's probably when it really started to change. How could it not? Alex and Geddy together all the time, Neil meeting them at the concert saying hi and then taking off again. It's pretty telling and creates a better understanding of the communication within the band, or lack of it with Neil.
Alex and Geddy are just on a different friendship level, knowing each other since junior high, living close to each other, etc. Neil probably felt like he really liked the guys, but also had to get away especially on tour. Let's face it, after 40 years with someone, the friendship or bond with someone is kind of tapped out and there's nothing new to discover. If they enjoy working together after all that time, that's probably the best anyone could expect.

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 09:13 AM

Btw, I’m shocked

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 10:17 AM

View PostAncient Ways, on 04 November 2017 - 09:13 AM, said:

Btw, I’m shocked

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 10:40 AM

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View PostAncient Ways, on 04 November 2017 - 09:13 AM, said:

Btw, I’m shocked

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 11:36 AM

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View Postgrasbo, on 01 November 2017 - 11:43 PM, said:

Since Neil didn't write a lurrv song till Cold Fire I consider all his lyrics to be platonic.
Neil love songs...hmmm.  Being hyper-analytical, he writes relationship songs more than love songs.  Entre Nous, Chemistry, Ghost of a Chance, and Cold Fire come to mind.  Also Alien Shore and - :gads: - Speed of Love.

Interesting way to put it.  I had always thought of them doing intellectual love songs.  But relationship songs fits the description as well.  I could add Analog Kid & Time Stand Still to the above list.

BTW - I happen to like Entre Nous, Cold Fire, Alien Shore, Analog Kid, Time Stand Still and, yes Speed of Love.

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 06:39 PM

Hard to know about Alex & Geddy's relationship with Neil.  After all, Neil is the new guy.

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 06:45 PM

View PostMetal Marc, on 07 November 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

Hard to know about Alex & Geddy's relationship with Neil.  After all, Neil is the new guy.

Last one in the band, first one to quit! :P




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