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When did Geddy's voice change? When did he begin to sing in a deeper register and get away from the "shrieking" of the early days?

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Poll: When did Geddy's voice change? When did he begin to sing in a deeper register and get away from the "shrieking" of the early days? (42 member(s) have cast votes)

When did Geddy's voice get deeper, and put an end to the banshee screams?

  1. RUSH - I remember back in 1970 when he REALLY had a high voice (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Fly By Night - his vocals are tuned down to owl from tweetie bird (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Caress of Steel - Neil's voice was deep but he needed crap tape effects, Lee had the real deep voice (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 2112 - You can see that Geddy's balls had dropped in that gay disco outfit he wore on the cover (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. A Farewell to Kings - Clearly his singing is deeper on this record he cracked less than a thousand wine glasses making it (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Hemispheres - No listen...his voice is really deep on this one, so deep it made Alex's hair curl (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Permanent Waves - Yes this is the album, he was pretty much crooning on a couple of these tracks (21 votes [50.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  8. Moving Pictures - He sounds like Barry White on this one, I can't believe it's the same band (5 votes [11.90%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.90%

  9. Signals - Ever see the Adams Family? Think of Lurch, Geddy makes him sound like a little girl on this album (7 votes [16.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

  10. Grace Under Pressure - By now Geddy's voice cannot be heard by the human ear, it's SO low! (1 votes [2.38%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.38%

  11. Power Windows - You need Power Windows to shut out the low sound waves that shudder through your body from Geddy's 1985 warbling (1 votes [2.38%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.38%

  12. Hold Your Fire - He caused an earthquake in New Zealand while recording this one (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  13. Presto - I never listened to this one so I have no idea what he did on it (2 votes [4.76%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

  14. Roll the Bones - Geddy did the rap on this for obvious reasons, his voice had finally broken (2 votes [4.76%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

  15. Counterparts - Geddy created grunge with his low tones on this one (2 votes [4.76%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

  16. Test For Echo - They thought it was a Geddy robot at first (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  17. Vapor Trails - Are there vocals on this one? (1 votes [2.38%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.38%

  18. Snakes & Arrows - Finally Geddy sounds like a man! Unfortunately though a man with no balls! (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  19. Clockwork Angels - Clockwork Lee was the original title, all you can hear is ticking when he sings because of the low register (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#41 goose

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 10:29 AM

View Postsnowdogged, on 26 September 2017 - 08:42 PM, said:

He pushes vocals a little here. If anyone has seen the making of this song, Geddy was the only artist that only had to do one take for his line. Anne Murray was asked to do a second take but they ended up using her first take.
https://youtu.be/VJN3u1wAWIk
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Posted 27 September 2017 - 04:45 PM

View Postgoose, on 27 September 2017 - 10:29 AM, said:

View Postsnowdogged, on 26 September 2017 - 08:42 PM, said:

He pushes vocals a little here. If anyone has seen the making of this song, Geddy was the only artist that only had to do one take for his line. Anne Murray was asked to do a second take but they ended up using her first take.
https://youtu.be/VJN3u1wAWIk
"Ohhh you knoOOOOw that we'll be theeeeeeere..."

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David Foster jokingly asked him "Do you think you can put a little more feeling into it?".

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 09:36 PM

View Postsnowdogged, on 27 September 2017 - 04:45 PM, said:

View Postgoose, on 27 September 2017 - 10:29 AM, said:

View Postsnowdogged, on 26 September 2017 - 08:42 PM, said:

He pushes vocals a little here. If anyone has seen the making of this song, Geddy was the only artist that only had to do one take for his line. Anne Murray was asked to do a second take but they ended up using her first take.
https://youtu.be/VJN3u1wAWIk
"Ohhh you knoOOOOw that we'll be theeeeeeere..."

:notworthy:
David Foster jokingly asked him "Do you think you can put a little more feeling into it?".
My quote wasn't exactly what was said but I was going on memory from over 30 years ago. You can see the actual footage if you watch this.
https://www.youtube....h?v=MmvSBpmw3vQ

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 10:01 PM

View Postsnowdogged, on 27 September 2017 - 09:36 PM, said:

View Postsnowdogged, on 27 September 2017 - 04:45 PM, said:

View Postgoose, on 27 September 2017 - 10:29 AM, said:

View Postsnowdogged, on 26 September 2017 - 08:42 PM, said:

He pushes vocals a little here. If anyone has seen the making of this song, Geddy was the only artist that only had to do one take for his line. Anne Murray was asked to do a second take but they ended up using her first take.
https://youtu.be/VJN3u1wAWIk
"Ohhh you knoOOOOw that we'll be theeeeeeere..."

:notworthy:
David Foster jokingly asked him "Do you think you can put a little more feeling into it?".
My quote wasn't exactly what was said but I was going on memory from over 30 years ago. You can see the actual footage if you watch this.
https://www.youtube....h?v=MmvSBpmw3vQ
Nice comments around the 2-minute mark where Ged talks about how fortunate we are in North America.

That was a fun watch.  Thanks for the link!

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 12:06 AM

Permanent Waves/Moving Pictures was the start of the more nuanced singing instead of screaming the lyrics. Although I think he really lost his range the most not long after the R30 tour

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 04:52 AM

View Postgoose, on 27 September 2017 - 10:01 PM, said:

View Postsnowdogged, on 27 September 2017 - 09:36 PM, said:

View Postsnowdogged, on 27 September 2017 - 04:45 PM, said:

View Postgoose, on 27 September 2017 - 10:29 AM, said:

View Postsnowdogged, on 26 September 2017 - 08:42 PM, said:

He pushes vocals a little here. If anyone has seen the making of this song, Geddy was the only artist that only had to do one take for his line. Anne Murray was asked to do a second take but they ended up using her first take.
https://youtu.be/VJN3u1wAWIk
"Ohhh you knoOOOOw that we'll be theeeeeeere..."

:notworthy:
David Foster jokingly asked him "Do you think you can put a little more feeling into it?".
My quote wasn't exactly what was said but I was going on memory from over 30 years ago. You can see the actual footage if you watch this.
https://www.youtube....h?v=MmvSBpmw3vQ
Nice comments around the 2-minute mark where Ged talks about how fortunate we are in North America.

That was a fun watch.  Thanks for the link!
Yeah, we tend to feel sorry for ourselves for little trivial things here in North America.

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 10:00 AM

The really high pitched stuff was finished as of the release of Moving Pictures.  I think "Freewill" marked the official end of the banshee.

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 10:07 AM

Agree with that, but felt that during MP the power to do it was still there.. Signals.. different story!

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 03:22 PM

View Postbootruss, on 28 September 2017 - 10:07 AM, said:

Agree with that, but felt that during MP the power to do it was still there.. Signals.. different story!

You're probably right...there was most likely a time period where he could still do it, but hesitated on recordings because he didn't want to attempt the stuff live.  I think the argument that he could still do it, but it just didn't fit in with the changing nature of their music holds merit also.

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 03:32 PM

View PostRelayer2112, on 28 September 2017 - 03:22 PM, said:

View Postbootruss, on 28 September 2017 - 10:07 AM, said:

Agree with that, but felt that during MP the power to do it was still there.. Signals.. different story!

You're probably right...there was most likely a time period where he could still do it, but hesitated on recordings because he didn't want to attempt the stuff live.  I think the argument that he could still do it, but it just didn't fit in with the changing nature of their music holds merit also.

I think I remember Ged saying as much in some interview once. It just wasn't necessary by the time they got to MP/Signals. Although there is still a hint of it in The Camera Eye.

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 11:29 AM

Well he certainly had changed his singing style many times, but both his singing and voice tone have been changing slowly over the years, as a part of an ongoing progress. These things don't change that fast, so it's funny to state that in X album his voice has suddenly become deep, while actually the change doesn't stop there. It's a process rather than a sudden change. Yes, you can obviously say that Ged's voice had become deeper in PeW, but actually it has gotten even deeper in MP, and even more in Signals. Then you have P/G and PW and HYF and the rest of the albums, and all of them get deeper and different as far as vocals. It wasn't a particular time that has changed his voice.

It's all relative, so I wouldn't say his vocal tone changed in only one particular album. As far as singing, the most notable change is how he had slowly went from screaming to actually singing during the 2112 - PeW period.

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 05:18 PM

Here's a comparison of two versions of "2112" to show the vocal shift:

On this version he sings with a very heavy and powerful tone.

Whereas here he sounds a lot weaker on the highs.

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 12:52 AM

View PostEntre_Perpetuo, on 26 September 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

It began with PeW (though his screams on Hems are not half as "banshee" like as those on 2112, and similarly Finding My Way is the absolute peak of this characteristic of his voice), but I don't think his voice had really changed (in the way we perceive it) until MP. By MP it was a rarity to hear that signature wail, on PeW it was a very recent memory, and one still preserved by the likes of the middle section of Freewill. When we first hear Ged in Tom Sawyer, something has very obviously changed. The band is playing more more subtly, but the power seems to have doubled. The synths are now a centerpiece more than a feature, and Ged sounds more like a prophetic monk than a helium wasted Robert Plant. The effect is awesome, but it's definitely different.

This sums it up well for me. For me, the most dramatic change was Permanent Waves to MP.

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 01:36 AM

For me his amazing shrieking voice started to change like Peter Brady's after "Permanent Waves."  I picked this album because Geddy (in my opinion) rips it in the middle of "Freewill."  I love that vocal part!  KILLER!

Then after that he changed.

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 08:44 AM

View PostWil1972, on 28 September 2017 - 03:32 PM, said:

View PostRelayer2112, on 28 September 2017 - 03:22 PM, said:

View Postbootruss, on 28 September 2017 - 10:07 AM, said:

Agree with that, but felt that during MP the power to do it was still there.. Signals.. different story!

You're probably right...there was most likely a time period where he could still do it, but hesitated on recordings because he didn't want to attempt the stuff live.  I think the argument that he could still do it, but it just didn't fit in with the changing nature of their music holds merit also.

I think I remember Ged saying as much in some interview once. It just wasn't necessary by the time they got to MP/Signals. Although there is still a hint of it in The Camera Eye.
And Tom Sawyer.  "...is what you say about society..." and "...the river!", for example.

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 01:42 PM

I went back and reviewed the some of the albums  and Hemispheres seems to be  the last real shriek.Red Barchetta gets high but no glass shattering stuff. By Signals there is none. He hits some highs on at the end of Marathon.I definitely noticed a drop in register on Presto. By now the music had become more reflective and less frantic,The Pass,Avaidable Light,Presto.

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 01:51 PM

View Postsnowdogged, on 28 September 2017 - 04:52 AM, said:

View Postgoose, on 27 September 2017 - 10:01 PM, said:

View Postsnowdogged, on 27 September 2017 - 09:36 PM, said:

View Postsnowdogged, on 27 September 2017 - 04:45 PM, said:

View Postgoose, on 27 September 2017 - 10:29 AM, said:

View Postsnowdogged, on 26 September 2017 - 08:42 PM, said:

He pushes vocals a little here. If anyone has seen the making of this song, Geddy was the only artist that only had to do one take for his line. Anne Murray was asked to do a second take but they ended up using her first take.
https://youtu.be/VJN3u1wAWIk
"Ohhh you knoOOOOw that we'll be theeeeeeere..."

:notworthy:
David Foster jokingly asked him "Do you think you can put a little more feeling into it?".
My quote wasn't exactly what was said but I was going on memory from over 30 years ago. You can see the actual footage if you watch this.
https://www.youtube....h?v=MmvSBpmw3vQ
Nice comments around the 2-minute mark where Ged talks about how fortunate we are in North America.

That was a fun watch.  Thanks for the link!
Yeah, we tend to feel sorry for ourselves for little trivial things here in North America.

Some more fortunate than others

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 04:53 PM

View PostGabesCavesOfIce, on 04 October 2017 - 01:51 PM, said:

View Postsnowdogged, on 28 September 2017 - 04:52 AM, said:

View Postgoose, on 27 September 2017 - 10:01 PM, said:

View Postsnowdogged, on 27 September 2017 - 09:36 PM, said:

View Postsnowdogged, on 27 September 2017 - 04:45 PM, said:

View Postgoose, on 27 September 2017 - 10:29 AM, said:

View Postsnowdogged, on 26 September 2017 - 08:42 PM, said:

He pushes vocals a little here. If anyone has seen the making of this song, Geddy was the only artist that only had to do one take for his line. Anne Murray was asked to do a second take but they ended up using her first take.
https://youtu.be/VJN3u1wAWIk
"Ohhh you knoOOOOw that we'll be theeeeeeere..."

:notworthy:
David Foster jokingly asked him "Do you think you can put a little more feeling into it?".
My quote wasn't exactly what was said but I was going on memory from over 30 years ago. You can see the actual footage if you watch this.
https://www.youtube....h?v=MmvSBpmw3vQ
Nice comments around the 2-minute mark where Ged talks about how fortunate we are in North America.

That was a fun watch.  Thanks for the link!
Yeah, we tend to feel sorry for ourselves for little trivial things here in North America.

Some more fortunate than others
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Posted 04 October 2017 - 05:58 PM

View PostRUSHHEAD666, on 04 October 2017 - 01:36 AM, said:

For me his amazing shrieking voice started to change like Peter Brady's after "Permanent Waves."  I picked this album because Geddy (in my opinion) rips it in the middle of "Freewill."  I love that vocal part!  KILLER!

Then after that he changed.
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Posted 04 October 2017 - 06:28 PM

View PostNarps, on 04 October 2017 - 05:58 PM, said:

View PostRUSHHEAD666, on 04 October 2017 - 01:36 AM, said:

For me his amazing shrieking voice started to change like Peter Brady's after "Permanent Waves."  I picked this album because Geddy (in my opinion) rips it in the middle of "Freewill."  I love that vocal part!  KILLER!

Then after that he changed.
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