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Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:23 AM

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I saw Dunkirk two days ago and I'll just say that it surpasses all of the great things that have been said about it. The movie is simply glorious, go and see it with all haste!

You didn't feel like it needed more dialogue or character development, as some here are saying? (I haven't seen it yet, but plan to.)

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:25 AM

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View PostJARG, on 20 July 2017 - 11:31 PM, said:

So it could have been a really great movie had it been told in a different manner. Great actors, but the dialogue is too sparse and the character development too anemic for those actors to shine.
All too common these days.

Still good though?
Yes good...but only just so. Even without the character development, it could have been improved just by using a more traditional story-telling technique.
And that pretty much sums up what I thought about it.

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Well, I for one was glad that I didn't have to sit through yet another conventional movie that told me what to think or feel every step of the way.  A rarity these days, I was captivated beginning to end.


Agreed on all counts! Bingo!

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:32 AM

View Post1-0-0-1-0-0-1, on 27 July 2017 - 10:23 AM, said:

View PostJack Aubrey, on 27 July 2017 - 10:21 AM, said:

I saw Dunkirk two days ago and I'll just say that it surpasses all of the great things that have been said about it. The movie is simply glorious, go and see it with all haste!

You didn't feel like it needed more dialogue or character development, as some here are saying? (I haven't seen it yet, but plan to.)

No sir! Not at all! The events of that day are the true "star" of the movie, and they are all presented perfectly. I was literally sitting forward on the edge of my seat for much of the movie. I suppose you could say it's not for everyone, and folks may just not be connecting with it, but I clicked with it so much so that the click was nearly audible. I. Genuinely. Love. This. Movie.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:21 AM

View PostJack Aubrey, on 27 July 2017 - 10:32 AM, said:

View Post1-0-0-1-0-0-1, on 27 July 2017 - 10:23 AM, said:

View PostJack Aubrey, on 27 July 2017 - 10:21 AM, said:

I saw Dunkirk two days ago and I'll just say that it surpasses all of the great things that have been said about it. The movie is simply glorious, go and see it with all haste!

You didn't feel like it needed more dialogue or character development, as some here are saying? (I haven't seen it yet, but plan to.)

No sir! Not at all! The events of that day are the true "star" of the movie, and they are all presented perfectly. I was literally sitting forward on the edge of my seat for much of the movie. I suppose you could say it's not for everyone, and folks may just not be connecting with it, but I clicked with it so much so that the click was nearly audible. I. Genuinely. Love. This. Movie.
That's how I saw it too. I'm not as head over heels (I was still thoroughly entertained for my money) but I really wasn't expecting a big main character or looking for character development. I saw it almost as a documentary with some famous faces presented in an interesting way. I thought the three sections of the movie were woven together quite well and really helped build that feeling of pressure and anxiety

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:12 PM

View PostJack Aubrey, on 27 July 2017 - 10:32 AM, said:

View Post1-0-0-1-0-0-1, on 27 July 2017 - 10:23 AM, said:

View PostJack Aubrey, on 27 July 2017 - 10:21 AM, said:

I saw Dunkirk two days ago and I'll just say that it surpasses all of the great things that have been said about it. The movie is simply glorious, go and see it with all haste!

You didn't feel like it needed more dialogue or character development, as some here are saying? (I haven't seen it yet, but plan to.)

No sir! Not at all! The events of that day are the true "star" of the movie, and they are all presented perfectly. I was literally sitting forward on the edge of my seat for much of the movie. I suppose you could say it's not for everyone, and folks may just not be connecting with it, but I clicked with it so much so that the click was nearly audible. I. Genuinely. Love. This. Movie.

More dialgoue wasn't necessary, but it wouldn't have hurt, either.  It would be an excellent film either way.  

Anyone see Quest For Fire way back when?  Now that had some great dialgoue in it!  ;)

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 03:00 PM

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View PostJARG, on 21 July 2017 - 09:42 AM, said:

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View PostJARG, on 20 July 2017 - 11:31 PM, said:

So it could have been a really great movie had it been told in a different manner. Great actors, but the dialogue is too sparse and the character development too anemic for those actors to shine.
All too common these days.

Still good though?
Yes good...but only just so. Even without the character development, it could have been improved just by using a more traditional story-telling technique.
And that pretty much sums up what I thought about it.

Spoiler
Well, I for one was glad that I didn't have to sit through yet another conventional movie that told me what to think or feel every step of the way.  A rarity these days, I was captivated beginning to end.
That's fine for a fictional movie. This was a real event with plenty of real stories to tell. That's what I wanted.
I thought the odd timeline was distracting from the real story and I really didn't think it was that clever.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 03:46 PM

One thing I absolutely loved about this movie was the Spitfire scenes! Very well done!

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 04:15 PM

One complaint I have is the volume. Nolan pushed that way too far (or at least the theater I was in did). The explosions actually hurt my ears at times and felt the soundtrack to my core. I'm lucky to have had hearing protection (left in my wallet after a concert).

Revisiting the soundtrack today on Spotify, I think it was a real strength to the movie. I've seen others complain about how it was full of things Zimmer has done before but I felt it was excellent with how it conveyed such awful anxiety. Even now it still makes my heart race

Edited by Union 5-3992, 27 July 2017 - 04:16 PM.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 04:53 PM

View PostPrincipled Man, on 27 July 2017 - 12:12 PM, said:

View PostJack Aubrey, on 27 July 2017 - 10:32 AM, said:

View Post1-0-0-1-0-0-1, on 27 July 2017 - 10:23 AM, said:

View PostJack Aubrey, on 27 July 2017 - 10:21 AM, said:

I saw Dunkirk two days ago and I'll just say that it surpasses all of the great things that have been said about it. The movie is simply glorious, go and see it with all haste!

You didn't feel like it needed more dialogue or character development, as some here are saying? (I haven't seen it yet, but plan to.)

No sir! Not at all! The events of that day are the true "star" of the movie, and they are all presented perfectly. I was literally sitting forward on the edge of my seat for much of the movie. I suppose you could say it's not for everyone, and folks may just not be connecting with it, but I clicked with it so much so that the click was nearly audible. I. Genuinely. Love. This. Movie.

More dialgoue wasn't necessary, but it wouldn't have hurt, either.  It would be an excellent film either way.  

Anyone see Quest For Fire way back when?  Now that had some great dialgoue in it!  ;)
Here's probably the best caveman dialog in a film

Pooh has many names


So does the physical act of love


Now for a more expansive lexicon


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 05:17 PM

View PostUnion 5-3992, on 27 July 2017 - 04:15 PM, said:

One complaint I have is the volume. Nolan pushed that way too far (or at least the theater I was in did). The explosions actually hurt my ears at times and felt the soundtrack to my core. I'm lucky to have had hearing protection (left in my wallet after a concert).

Revisiting the soundtrack today on Spotify, I think it was a real strength to the movie. I've seen others complain about how it was full of things Zimmer has done before but I felt it was excellent with how it conveyed such awful anxiety. Even now it still makes my heart race
I didn't like the soundtrack at all. It reminded me of Inception.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 08:10 PM

View PostUnion 5-3992, on 27 July 2017 - 04:15 PM, said:

One complaint I have is the volume. Nolan pushed that way too far (or at least the theater I was in did). The explosions actually hurt my ears at times and felt the soundtrack to my core. I'm lucky to have had hearing protection (left in my wallet after a concert).
Every guy should have some of protection in his wallet. ;)

Edited by JARG, 27 July 2017 - 08:11 PM.


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Posted 28 July 2017 - 09:21 AM

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One thing I absolutely loved about this movie was the Spitfire scenes! Very well done!

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 09:23 AM

I think the soundtrack suits the movie. It's like something sinister and dark is coming your way, and there's nothing you can do about it. Great suspense!

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 09:27 AM

After a couple of days the movie has grown even more on me. I noticed how everything looked very real, and not CGI made. Most movies now have the problem that the effects are looking so fake, so they just make the rest of the movie look like a computer game. In Dunkirk it really looked like they went out and got real airplanes, and real ships to sink.

Bravo!

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 09:31 AM

View PostThe Analog Grownup, on 28 July 2017 - 09:21 AM, said:

View Postworkingcinderellaman, on 27 July 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

One thing I absolutely loved about this movie was the Spitfire scenes! Very well done!

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 09:39 AM

View PostThe Analog Grownup, on 28 July 2017 - 09:21 AM, said:

View Postworkingcinderellaman, on 27 July 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

One thing I absolutely loved about this movie was the Spitfire scenes! Very well done!

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 09:41 AM

View PostJARG, on 28 July 2017 - 09:31 AM, said:

View PostThe Analog Grownup, on 28 July 2017 - 09:21 AM, said:

View Postworkingcinderellaman, on 27 July 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

One thing I absolutely loved about this movie was the Spitfire scenes! Very well done!

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Edited by workingcinderellaman, 28 July 2017 - 09:41 AM.


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Posted 28 July 2017 - 09:51 AM

View PostThe Analog Grownup, on 28 July 2017 - 09:27 AM, said:

After a couple of days the movie has grown even more on me. I noticed how everything looked very real, and not CGI made. Most movies now have the problem that the effects are looking so fake, so they just make the rest of the movie look like a computer game. In Dunkirk it really looked like they went out and got real airplanes, and real ships to sink.

Bravo!

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Nolan hates CGI. He uses real vehicles or model miniatures whenever possible. From everything I've read so far, Dunkirk is old school filmmaking. Real boats, real planes, real explosions.

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 10:15 AM

View PostJARG, on 28 July 2017 - 09:31 AM, said:

View PostThe Analog Grownup, on 28 July 2017 - 09:21 AM, said:

View Postworkingcinderellaman, on 27 July 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

One thing I absolutely loved about this movie was the Spitfire scenes! Very well done!

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 10:17 AM

View Post1-0-0-1-0-0-1, on 28 July 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:

View PostThe Analog Grownup, on 28 July 2017 - 09:27 AM, said:

After a couple of days the movie has grown even more on me. I noticed how everything looked very real, and not CGI made. Most movies now have the problem that the effects are looking so fake, so they just make the rest of the movie look like a computer game. In Dunkirk it really looked like they went out and got real airplanes, and real ships to sink.

Bravo!

Critics can say what they want, but the approval of a veteran who was there is enough for me:


Nolan hates CGI. He uses real vehicles or model miniatures whenever possible. From everything I've read so far, Dunkirk is old school filmmaking. Real boats, real planes, real explosions.

I'm watching some behind the scenes footage, and he actually put giant Imax cameras on the wings of Spitfires and inside the cockpit. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he took real ships and sank them.




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