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GOAT: Polarizing Movie Discussion Part 2: 2001: A Space Odyssey


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2001: A Space Odyssey  

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  1. 1. Is 2001: A Space Odyssey the Greatest Movie of All Time?

    • Yes, absolutely. It's influence is far reaching.
    • It might be. It deserves to be mentioned in the discussion of GOAT anyway.
    • Probably not. But I did enjoy it to some degree at least.
    • Definitely not. There's very little there that's worthy of praise. That black monolith might as well have been a bottle of sleeping pills because that movie put me to....zzzzz....
    • I've never seen it. But I will check it out now or else JohnnyBlaze will burn my stomach with flames that launch from his eye sockets.
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  2. 2. Is the ending still unclear even after all these years?

    • No, I'm a clever little prehistoric monkeyian. I got it the first time.
    • I'm good...I think. I've read different interpretations online before and just use whichever one makes me look the sexiest.
    • I was cruising right along in all my comprehension glory until all those colorful swirly things started to do that vortex job.
    • All I know is that there are several images in the movie that Rush has used. That's all that matters.
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    • I didn't see it so I'm voting for Nicole Kidman naked in Eyes Wide Shut.
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    • I didn't see it either but I'm not interested in Kidman nude so I better check it out or else JB's eyes will burn me again.
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The meat of the movie which was the trip to inspect the obelisk and the Hal computer system malfunction could really be turned into a great remake w/o the apes and the now over the top psychedelic aspects of the ending while still making a statement about man's journey. I think it ripe for a remake/reboot.

 

I definitely wouldn't want a remake.

That prehistoric man sequence is essential in order to show the role of the obelisk in the next big leap in history.

 

I haven't read any of Arthur C. Clarke's books but IF they were going to do anything, the best way would be to do the second sequel...

2061: Odyssey Three.

 

A Kubrick movie should never be remade. However, moving on and telling your own story is another thing entirely. Stanley had no issue with 2010 being made. BUT after 2001 was completed (and way before 2010 was even a thought) he had all props, sets, and unused scenes destroyed so that nobody could use them. He didn't want them to be exploited.

 

Maybe it's just that AncientWays didn't like Hal's accent

 

;)

 

I'm scared James Cameron would spend a billion dollars on a remake that would suck. He'd use the hair from deceased chimpanzees for a prehistoric man costume which would lead to fans saying how brilliant he is. Still (and somehow), he'd make 500 billion dollars profit.

 

I'm scared a Christopher Nolan remake would have Dave Bowman suspended on wires and floating around for an hour doing nothing. Some uninspired plot twist ending would be inserted and many would call THAT brilliant. And that too would make 500

billion dollars profit.

 

So basically, I don't want it but I imagine a remake is somewhere down the road.

I can understand your point Johnny. I wouldn't want Cameron to do it but someone that would respect it. I see a chance to combine the horror and sci fi aspect together to make it a bit more intense a la alien. Hal is scary. Scarier than they made him in the original.

 

Don't get me wrong though. Both Cameron and Nolan have made films I've enjoyed a lot...just not recently. But even if either were still at their peak, I wouldn't want them to give it a go.

And if true hacks like Bay or Emmerich were given the green light, I'd probably have to go ninja on whoever were directing even before pre-production. :blaze:

 

I'm sticking by my answer of no remake OR moving to the next stage with 2061...which is the whole point of 2001 anyway---progressing to the next stage.

 

 

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The meat of the movie which was the trip to inspect the obelisk and the Hal computer system malfunction could really be turned into a great remake w/o the apes and the now over the top psychedelic aspects of the ending while still making a statement about man's journey. I think it ripe for a remake/reboot.

 

I definitely wouldn't want a remake.

That prehistoric man sequence is essential in order to show the role of the obelisk in the next big leap in history.

 

I haven't read any of Arthur C. Clarke's books but IF they were going to do anything, the best way would be to do the second sequel...

2061: Odyssey Three.

 

A Kubrick movie should never be remade. However, moving on and telling your own story is another thing entirely. Stanley had no issue with 2010 being made. BUT after 2001 was completed (and way before 2010 was even a thought) he had all props, sets, and unused scenes destroyed so that nobody could use them. He didn't want them to be exploited.

 

Maybe it's just that AncientWays didn't like Hal's accent

 

;)

 

I'm scared James Cameron would spend a billion dollars on a remake that would suck. He'd use the hair from deceased chimpanzees for a prehistoric man costume which would lead to fans saying how brilliant he is. Still (and somehow), he'd make 500 billion dollars profit.

 

I'm scared a Christopher Nolan remake would have Dave Bowman suspended on wires and floating around for an hour doing nothing. Some uninspired plot twist ending would be inserted and many would call THAT brilliant. And that too would make 500

billion dollars profit.

 

So basically, I don't want it but I imagine a remake is somewhere down the road.

I can understand your point Johnny. I wouldn't want Cameron to do it but someone that would respect it. I see a chance to combine the horror and sci fi aspect together to make it a bit more intense a la alien. Hal is scary. Scarier than they made him in the original.

 

Don't get me wrong though. Both Cameron and Nolan have made films I've enjoyed a lot...just not recently. But even if either were still at their peak, I wouldn't want them to give it a go.

And if true hacks like Bay or Emmerich were given the green light, I'd probably have to go ninja on whoever were directing even before pre-production. :blaze:

 

I'm sticking by my answer of no remake OR moving to the next stage with 2061...which is the whole point of 2001 anyway---progressing to the next stage.

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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/05/18/07/4078B58F00000578-4517450-image-m-131_1495088791454.jpg

*stares at picture real hard, scratching head*

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You've just reminded me - I was going to watch this later on today. :D

What Mr Majestyk?

duck, recognize this artist?

 

http://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/eb/ca/0c/ebca0ce28a3dac023920770977ae8b74.jpg

 

Of course you do. It's Jack Kirby's.

 

http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/1095897.jpg

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You've just reminded me - I was going to watch this later on today. :D

What Mr Majestyk?

duck, recognize this artist?

 

http://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/eb/ca/0c/ebca0ce28a3dac023920770977ae8b74.jpg

 

Of course you do. It's Jack Kirby's.

 

http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/1095897.jpg

There's a few Jack Kirby clones around who do some work too.

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You've just reminded me - I was going to watch this later on today. :D

What Mr Majestyk?

 

No, My Little Pony (1986).

Drop that and watch Mr Majestyk!

 

I'm actually kidding, ducky! I was on about 2001: A Space Oddysey. :D

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You've just reminded me - I was going to watch this later on today. :D

What Mr Majestyk?

 

No, My Little Pony (1986).

Drop that and watch Mr Majestyk!

 

I'm actually kidding, ducky! I was on about 2001: A Space Oddysey. :D

I thought you were going to admit to watch My Little Pony porn! :16ton:

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You've just reminded me - I was going to watch this later on today. :D

What Mr Majestyk?

 

No, My Little Pony (1986).

Drop that and watch Mr Majestyk!

 

I'm actually kidding, ducky! I was on about 2001: A Space Oddysey. :D

I thought you were going to admit to watch My Little Pony porn! :16ton:

 

WHAT?

 

My sex tape leaked?!?!?!

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You've just reminded me - I was going to watch this later on today. :D

What Mr Majestyk?

 

No, My Little Pony (1986).

Drop that and watch Mr Majestyk!

 

I'm actually kidding, ducky! I was on about 2001: A Space Oddysey. :D

I thought you were going to admit to watch My Little Pony porn! :16ton:

 

WHAT?

 

My sex tape leaked?!?!?!

 

ANOTHER one?!!

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It's a wonderful movie. It's among the greatest ever because after it was released everything changed about how to make movies and watch movies. Its influence and its innovation is everywhere, even if it's not noticed or appreciated.
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I think it was a big deal back when it came out. It also has influenced a lot of movies over the years but as far as being great? Hard to say. I think it's boring as heck, personally.

Like space travel. Slow, deliberate, quiet. At least, that was the intent to some degree. I find it fascinating and a remarkable achievement for its day.
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