Random Fun/Interesting Facts in Music

[Bigbobby10]

Just a little thread if there is any interesting facts you wanna share.

 

Here is a couple

 

1. Earth Wind and Fire's Song "September" was made for their greatest hits album because they did not have enough hits song. So the song was basically on the greatest hits before it actually became a hit

 

2. Arthur Lee from Love convinced Jac Holzman, who owned Elektra, to sign The Doors. And Holzman did not like them or want to sign them, but Arthur Lee convinced him to do so.

[Union 5-3992]

1. Earth Wind and Fire's Song "September" was made for their greatest hits album because they did not have enough hits song. So the song was basically on the greatest hits before it actually became a hit

I believe "Mary Jane's Last Dance" by Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers has a similar story. It became a huge hit.

[Bigbobby10]

1. Earth Wind and Fire's Song "September" was made for their greatest hits album because they did not have enough hits song. So the song was basically on the greatest hits before it actually became a hit

I believe "Mary Jane's Last Dance" by Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers has a similar story. It became a huge hit.

 

That's pretty interesting, that would be cool if it was similar

[GeddysMullet]

Related to the above: The first never-released song to appear on a "greatest hits" album was John, I'm Only Dancing on David Bowie's 1976 compilation Changesonebowie.

[Union 5-3992]

1. Earth Wind and Fire's Song "September" was made for their greatest hits album because they did not have enough hits song. So the song was basically on the greatest hits before it actually became a hit

I believe "Mary Jane's Last Dance" by Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers has a similar story. It became a huge hit.

 

That's pretty interesting, that would be cool if it was similar

Well they recorded it for a Greatest Hits album

[Lucas]

In 1987, childhood friends and bandmates Jerry Cantrell ( guitar ) and Vinnie Chas ( bass ) were looking to start a new band ... Jerry was putting the pieces together for what would eventually become Alice In Chains and asked Vinnie to join ... Vinnie declined and went on to form Pretty Boy Floyd ..

[JohnnyBlaze]

In 1987, childhood friends and bandmates Jerry Cantrell ( guitar ) and Vinnie Chas ( bass ) were looking to start a new band ... Jerry was putting the pieces together for what would eventually become Alice In Chains and asked Vinnie to join ... Vinnie declined and went on to form Pretty Boy Floyd ..

 

Spit it out with the Kiss stuff Lucas!

[JohnnyBlaze]

In 1987, childhood friends and bandmates Jerry Cantrell ( guitar ) and Vinnie Chas ( bass ) were looking to start a new band ... Jerry was putting the pieces together for what would eventually become Alice In Chains and asked Vinnie to join ... Vinnie declined and went on to form Pretty Boy Floyd ..

 

Spit it out with the Kiss stuff Lucas!

 

Oh and i already know the stuff about Daddy Longlegs, Van Halen, and their own blood in their 70s Marvel comic!

Edited April 26, 2017 by JohnnyBlaze

[Lucas]

In 1987, childhood friends and bandmates Jerry Cantrell ( guitar ) and Vinnie Chas ( bass ) were looking to start a new band ... Jerry was putting the pieces together for what would eventually become Alice In Chains and asked Vinnie to join ... Vinnie declined and went on to form Pretty Boy Floyd ..

 

Spit it out with the Kiss stuff Lucas!

 

This one is multi layered and pretty good:

 

 

In 1971, an executive at Buddah Records named Neil Bogart turned down the opportunity to sign a local New York band called Chelsea ... Chelsea had recorded a demo, and one of the songs on this demo was called "Beck" - a song co-written and sung by then-Chelsea drummer Peter Criscuola ..

 

Five years later, Neil Bogart was the president and CEO of Casablanca Records and Peter Criscuola was better known as Peter Criss, drummer for KISS ..

 

While KISS was recording the album Destroyer, producer Bob Ezrin and Peter Criss felt that "Beck" could be reworked into something special .. They were alone with those thoughts ..

 

Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley and Neil Bogart hated the song ... The song was retitled "Beth", and Bogart hated it even more as he felt it was Ezrin's way of ridiculing him ( Bogart's estranged wife was named Beth )

 

The song went on to become the band's highest charting single and helped catapult KISS from cult status to international icons

 

It also saved Casablanca Records, as the newly formed label was on the verge of bankruptcy

 

 

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Edited April 26, 2017 by Lucas

[edhunter]

The exec who signed Bachmann Turner Overdrive had just come back from a vacation to a desk full of demo tapes. He swept them all into the garbage for a fresh start. One single tape missed the can. He bent over to pick it up and noticed Bachmann's name on it and remembered him from a prior meeting. Gave it a listen and signed them.

[edhunter]

Sting owns the sole songwriting credit for Every Breath You Take, because the band was fighting at the time they wrote it. He made over 20 million dollars in publishing royalties alone from it, while Summers and Copeland only got mechanical royalties, which are much less. Sean Coombs sampled just the guitar riff without crediting Sting for his song "I'll Be Missing You". Sting was able to sue for ALL the royalties from the song and won another 7 million, and Summers didn't get a penny, even though only his part was sampled.

 

Tough business...

[JohnnyBlaze]

Sting owns the sole songwriting credit for Every Breath You Take, because the band was fighting at the time they wrote it. He made over 20 million dollars in publishing royalties alone from it, while Summers and Copeland only got mechanical royalties, which are much less. Sean Coombs sampled just the guitar riff without crediting Sting for his song "I'll Be Missing You". Sting was able to sue for ALL the royalties from the song and won another 7 million, and Summers didn't get a penny, even though only his part was sampled.

 

Tough business...

 

Jeez! Legalities.

How pissed would you be if you were Summers?! ((rhetorical))

[JohnnyBlaze]

In 1987, childhood friends and bandmates Jerry Cantrell ( guitar ) and Vinnie Chas ( bass ) were looking to start a new band ... Jerry was putting the pieces together for what would eventually become Alice In Chains and asked Vinnie to join ... Vinnie declined and went on to form Pretty Boy Floyd ..

 

Spit it out with the Kiss stuff Lucas!

 

This one is multi layered and pretty good:

 

 

In 1971, an executive at Buddah Records named Neil Bogart turned down the opportunity to sign a local New York band called Chelsea ... Chelsea had recorded a demo, and one of the songs on this demo was called "Beck" - a song co-written and sung by then-Chelsea drummer Peter Criscuola ..

 

Five years later, Neil Bogart was the president and CEO of Casablanca Records and Peter Criscuola was better known as Peter Criss, drummer for KISS ..

 

While KISS was recording the album Destroyer, producer Bob Ezrin and Peter Criss felt that "Beck" could be reworked into something special .. They were alone with those thoughts ..

 

Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley and Neil Bogart hated the song ... The song was retitled "Beth", and Bogart hated it even more as he felt it was Ezrin's way of ridiculing him ( Bogart's estranged wife was named Beth )

 

The song went on to become the band's highest charting single and helped catapult KISS from cult status to international icons

 

It also saved Casablanca Records, as the newly formed label was on the verge of bankruptcy

 

 

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Did not know that! Interesting.

[JohnnyBlaze]

btw, good thread idea BigBobby :cheers:

[Lucas]

Artist Eraldo Carugati painted the Fly By Night cover also painted the four KISS solo album covers

 

 

 

[Blue J]

In 1967-'68, after Duane and Gregg Allman's first recording band, The Allman Joys, came to an end, Duane moved back east and was a very in-demand session player for various different acts of the day, from Boz Scaggs to Aretha Franklin.

 

Gregg stayed out west until Duane called him to join what became the Allman Brothers Band. Gregg was actually the last person of the six original members to join the ABB.

 

At that time, though- in the months leading up to when Gregg left Los Angeles to move back home and join the band he would front for the next 45 years- his roommate back in L.A. in 1968 was another fledgling musician named Jackson Browne.

 

Gregg covered the Jackson Browne song These Days on his first solo album, Laid Back, in 1973.

[Gompers]

1. Earth Wind and Fire's Song "September" was made for their greatest hits album because they did not have enough hits song. So the song was basically on the greatest hits before it actually became a hit

I believe "Mary Jane's Last Dance" by Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers has a similar story. It became a huge hit.

Wasn't New World Man a last minute song thrown together?

[Gompers]

btw, good thread idea BigBobby :cheers:

I quickly read this as Big Booby.

[Gompers]

In 1981 Queen and David Bowie recorded "Under Pressure" during a 24-hour wine and cocaine marathon.

[JohnnyBlaze]

btw, good thread idea BigBobby :cheers:

I quickly read this as Big Booby.

I'm thankful for that too.

[Mithrandir]

Sting owns the sole songwriting credit for Every Breath You Take, because the band was fighting at the time they wrote it. He made over 20 million dollars in publishing royalties alone from it, while Summers and Copeland only got mechanical royalties, which are much less. Sean Coombs sampled just the guitar riff without crediting Sting for his song "I'll Be Missing You". Sting was able to sue for ALL the royalties from the song and won another 7 million, and Summers didn't get a penny, even though only his part was sampled.

 

Tough business...

Isn't that pretty much Summers and Copelands own fault?

[ReRushed]

Sting owns the sole songwriting credit for Every Breath You Take, because the band was fighting at the time they wrote it. He made over 20 million dollars in publishing royalties alone from it, while Summers and Copeland only got mechanical royalties, which are much less. Sean Coombs sampled just the guitar riff without crediting Sting for his song "I'll Be Missing You". Sting was able to sue for ALL the royalties from the song and won another 7 million, and Summers didn't get a penny, even though only his part was sampled.

 

Tough business...

Isn't that pretty much Summers and Copelands own fault?

Sting has solo credit on the majority of Police songs, a vast majority.

[78jazz]

Just a little thread if there is any interesting facts you wanna share.

 

Here is a couple

 

2. Arthur Lee from Love convinced Jac Holzman, who owned Elektra, to sign The Doors. And Holzman did not like them or want to sign them, but Arthur Lee convinced him to do so.

 

I believe the story is that Arthur Lee encouraged Holzman to check them out, but he saw a few (4?) performances before deciding to sign them (and IIRC, that was the band that was Elektra's first smash band).

[goose]

1. Earth Wind and Fire's Song "September" was made for their greatest hits album because they did not have enough hits song. So the song was basically on the greatest hits before it actually became a hit

I believe "Mary Jane's Last Dance" by Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers has a similar story. It became a huge hit.

Wasn't New World Man a last minute song thrown together?

"Project 341", as in "we have 3:41 of space to fill and need a song." Result? Their only US top 40 hit.

[IwillchooseFreeWill]

So how come nearly all the Rush song say Lee/Lifeson with no mention of the lyrics? There must be some legal thing behind it unless they never expected anyone to cover a Rush song and make a ton of money from it. And for all I know the Canadian laws are different from the US ones. After all, Michael Jackson owned the rights to the Beatles songs for years and refused Paul's offers to buy them back