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The very big drum battle: Buddy Rich vs Neil Peart?


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Buddy Rich vs Neil Peart?

  1. Buddy Rich (8 votes [42.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 42.11%

  2. Neil Peart (11 votes [57.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 57.89%

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#1 Texas King

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 06:29 AM

In terms of techical abilities who is a superior drummer?
My opinion that is Buddy Rich and it's kind of NO BRAINER for me. I prefer Peart's drumming(he is my second fave rock drummer), but techically he cannot surpass Rich.
And in general jazz drummers are easily superior to rock drummers.

The question is not which drummer you prefer, than who is a better drummer?
So I expect that you will not be biased on this subject.

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 06:33 AM

I can't pretend I know enough about buddy rich to even make a choice so I'll defer.

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 07:01 AM

Apparently Buddy Rich had perfected his double-stroke paradiddle rolls ... at 4 years old !

Neil gets my vote.

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 07:16 AM



This is a obvious reason why is Rich (who is in his 60s in this video) SUPERIOR to Neil.

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 07:36 AM

Any poll pitting any drummer against Buddy Rich isn't fair, regardless of style or genre.

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 08:19 AM

 Texas King, on 12 December 2016 - 07:16 AM, said:



This is a obvious reason why is Rich (who is in his 60s in this video) SUPERIOR to Neil.

That YouTube clip didn't work for me. It said it wasn't available in this country (U.S.). Texas King, where are you from?

This one should work for those who can't play the original:



(EDIT: I just realized that the above video is a joke. It's part of a series of "SHREDS" clips where audio of very bad playing is dubbed onto a performance video. I can't seem to find the legit version of this drum solo.)

Edited by 1-0-0-1-0-0-1, 12 December 2016 - 09:06 PM.


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Posted 12 December 2016 - 10:06 AM

Neil Peart.

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 10:28 AM

:heart: :Neil: :heart:


I have not heard Buddy rich at all,so the vote is easy.

Edited by GotNeilPeart?, 12 December 2016 - 10:28 AM.


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Posted 12 December 2016 - 10:52 AM

 GotNeilPeart?, on 12 December 2016 - 10:28 AM, said:

:heart: :Neil: :heart:


I have not heard Buddy rich at all,so the vote is easy.

 GotNeilPeart?, on 12 December 2016 - 10:28 AM, said:

:heart: :Neil: :heart:


I have not heard Buddy rich at all,so the vote is easy.

So then how your vote can be accurate if you didn't listen the other one?

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 10:56 AM

http://www.youtube....h?v=ALX9UM0gX5k

Edited by Texas King, 12 December 2016 - 10:57 AM.


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Posted 12 December 2016 - 11:01 AM

 Texas King, on 12 December 2016 - 10:52 AM, said:

 GotNeilPeart?, on 12 December 2016 - 10:28 AM, said:

:heart: :Neil: :heart:


I have not heard Buddy rich at all,so the vote is easy.

 GotNeilPeart?, on 12 December 2016 - 10:28 AM, said:

:heart: :Neil: :heart:


I have not heard Buddy rich at all,so the vote is easy.

So then how your vote can be accurate if you didn't listen the other one?

No one can replace Neil as my fav drummer of all time!

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 11:52 AM

 Texas King, on 12 December 2016 - 06:29 AM, said:

In terms of techical abilities who is a superior drummer?
My opinion that is Buddy Rich and it's kind of NO BRAINER for me. I prefer Peart's drumming(he is my second fave rock drummer), but techically he cannot surpass Rich.
And in general jazz drummers are easily superior to rock drummers.

The question is not which drummer you prefer, than who is a better drummer?
So I expect that you will not be biased on this subject.


this is a completely ridiculous expectation.  no one can state absolutely who is a "better" drummer, only who THEY, PERSONALLY think is better, i.e., prefer!  there are no valid objective standards for determining who is BETTER, only different ways to parse the question, none of which will produce an absolute answer but only a set of preferences.  especially considering that pretty much everything about the contexts in which neil peart played and buddy rich played were completely different, from the size of their kits to the styles of music they played to the musicians they played with.  pretty much the only thing they have in common in any objective sense is that they both hit things with sticks.

 Texas King, on 12 December 2016 - 10:52 AM, said:

 GotNeilPeart?, on 12 December 2016 - 10:28 AM, said:

:heart: :Neil: :heart:


I have not heard Buddy rich at all,so the vote is easy.

 GotNeilPeart?, on 12 December 2016 - 10:28 AM, said:

:heart: :Neil: :heart:


I have not heard Buddy rich at all,so the vote is easy.

So then how your vote can be accurate if you didn't listen the other one?

no vote is going to be "accurate!" for the reasons i stated above.  your search for absolutes in subjective matters such as musical performance are doomed to frustration.

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 12:10 PM

 Texas King, on 12 December 2016 - 06:29 AM, said:

In terms of techical abilities who is a superior drummer?
My opinion that is Buddy Rich and it's kind of NO BRAINER for me. I prefer Peart's drumming(he is my second fave rock drummer), but techically he cannot surpass Rich.
And in general jazz drummers are easily superior to rock drummers.

The question is not which drummer you prefer, than who is a better drummer?
So I expect that you will not be biased on this subject.

Buddy is a good drummer. Ive seen a few things with him. He is like the Jedi Master while Neil is the apprentice.

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 12:16 PM

 GotNeilPeart?, on 12 December 2016 - 10:28 AM, said:

:heart: :Neil: :heart:


I have not heard Buddy rich at all,so the vote is easy.

Neil would tell you to listen to some Buddy Rich records.

:)

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 12:20 PM

I'm not a drummer so can't comment on technical ability.

I'm not familiar with Buddy's music.

I find most drum solos boring.

So Neil.

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 12:21 PM

Ed does a good job, gotta give him credit for even getting in the ring ... And while I feel it is not fair to compare musicians like this, it is fun, nonetheless

I think Neil would be the first to admit that he'd probably be out of his league here



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Posted 12 December 2016 - 12:23 PM

What is with all the dumb comparison threads lately?

And for those of you unfamiliar with Buddy... Maybe you should familiarize yourself with him.
Here, let Neil Peart give you a tour:

Edited by Mr. Not, 12 December 2016 - 12:25 PM.


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Posted 12 December 2016 - 12:30 PM

Buddy Rich is a drumming freak. (Papa Jo Jones too)

Buddy Rich is actually more musical than some people would think, and is a tasteful and swinging accompanist (check out his work with various vocalists).
He also did some recording with Ravi Shankar, and the results were pretty decent.

Neil is a very good rock drummer, whose strength seemed to lie in coming up with interesting drum arrangements for the songs.

Who's better than Buddy Rich? Maybe Joe Morello in terms of technique, but that's about it. A very short list indeed!

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 12:34 PM

 toscanobarga, on 12 December 2016 - 12:20 PM, said:

I'm not a drummer so can't comment on technical ability.

I'm not familiar with Buddy's music.

I find most drum solos boring.

So Neil.

I'm a drummer who finds drum solos boring.

So Buddy.
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Posted 12 December 2016 - 12:36 PM

If i had just listened to an audio of that Tonight show drum battle I'd have no idea which one was Buddy or which one was "better" or whether or not Neil could match up.




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