fraroc Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Despite the fact that Rush and Metallica are two completley different sounding bands, this point in their history from 2002-2003 had a crucial similarity. Both bands had just released a new record after having not released any new music after a long time and both of those records have been heavily criticized by the respective fans of each band. Vapor Trails' for the terrible production and lack of melody, and St. Anger with it's disjointed songs and horrid production. Which album do you believe is more listenable? As much as I constantly criticize Vapor Trails, I find it a hell of a lot more listenable than anything on St. Anger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Who said vapor trails has a lack of melody? That's a ridiculous statement. The issue with the album has always been it sounding poor due to the "brickwalling." I'm unaware of any complaints about a lack of melody. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Permanent-Rush Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I like both albums!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Who said vapor trails has a lack of melody? That's a ridiculous statement. The issue with the album has always been it sounding poor due to the "brickwalling." I'm unaware of any complaints about a lack of melody. Keep in mind, in a sea of silly Fraroc polls, this one is especially silly. Despite his attempt to explain why he's comparing these two albums, there's no reason to compare them. May as well be comparing VT to a pair of pink fuzzy bunny slippers. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Who said vapor trails has a lack of melody? That's a ridiculous statement. The issue with the album has always been it sounding poor due to the "brickwalling." I'm unaware of any complaints about a lack of melody. Keep in mind, in a sea of silly Fraroc polls, this one is especially silly. Despite his attempt to explain why he's comparing these two albums, there's no reason to compare them. May as well be comparing VT to a pair of pink fuzzy bunny slippers.http://www.bunnyslippers.com/shop/images/T/energizer-1-sm.jpg I may have to go with the slippers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Who said vapor trails has a lack of melody? That's a ridiculous statement. The issue with the album has always been it sounding poor due to the "brickwalling." I'm unaware of any complaints about a lack of melody. Keep in mind, in a sea of silly Fraroc polls, this one is especially silly. Despite his attempt to explain why he's comparing these two albums, there's no reason to compare them. May as well be comparing VT to a pair of pink fuzzy bunny slippers.I can't help myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraroc Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 Who said vapor trails has a lack of melody? That's a ridiculous statement. The issue with the album has always been it sounding poor due to the "brickwalling." I'm unaware of any complaints about a lack of melody. Keep in mind, in a sea of silly Fraroc polls, this one is especially silly. Despite his attempt to explain why he's comparing these two albums, there's no reason to compare them. May as well be comparing VT to a pair of pink fuzzy bunny slippers. So I guess I'm not allowed to discuss anything on this site anymore. Who said vapor trails has a lack of melody? That's a ridiculous statement. The issue with the album has always been it sounding poor due to the "brickwalling." I'm unaware of any complaints about a lack of melody. I remember that a lot of the complaints about that album was due to the fact that some songs didn't have any sort of distinct melody where you can hum it and say "oh yeah, I know that song!". Granted, people were also saying similar things about CA, but I hear a lot more distinctive melody in that one than in VT, especially Freeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeddysMullet Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Who said vapor trails has a lack of melody? That's a ridiculous statement. The issue with the album has always been it sounding poor due to the "brickwalling." I'm unaware of any complaints about a lack of melody. Keep in mind, in a sea of silly Fraroc polls, this one is especially silly. Despite his attempt to explain why he's comparing these two albums, there's no reason to compare them. May as well be comparing VT to a pair of pink fuzzy bunny slippers. So I guess I'm not allowed to discuss anything on this site anymore. I feel like you've said this before? Once or twice maybe? And yet, here you still are! ;-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Who said vapor trails has a lack of melody? That's a ridiculous statement. The issue with the album has always been it sounding poor due to the "brickwalling." I'm unaware of any complaints about a lack of melody. Keep in mind, in a sea of silly Fraroc polls, this one is especially silly. Despite his attempt to explain why he's comparing these two albums, there's no reason to compare them. May as well be comparing VT to a pair of pink fuzzy bunny slippers. So I guess I'm not allowed to discuss anything on this site anymore. Where did I say that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catherine Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I love VT but absolutely loathe St. Anger. It is the only Metallica album I don't own and don't even listen to it for free online. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Who said vapor trails has a lack of melody? That's a ridiculous statement. The issue with the album has always been it sounding poor due to the "brickwalling." I'm unaware of any complaints about a lack of melody. Keep in mind, in a sea of silly Fraroc polls, this one is especially silly. Despite his attempt to explain why he's comparing these two albums, there's no reason to compare them. May as well be comparing VT to a pair of pink fuzzy bunny slippers. So I guess I'm not allowed to discuss anything on this site anymore. Who said vapor trails has a lack of melody? That's a ridiculous statement. The issue with the album has always been it sounding poor due to the "brickwalling." I'm unaware of any complaints about a lack of melody. I remember that a lot of the complaints about that album was due to the fact that some songs didn't have any sort of distinct melody where you can hum it and say "oh yeah, I know that song!". Granted, people were also saying similar things about CA, but I hear a lot more distinctive melody in that one than in VT, especially Freeze.I don't remember any of this and I would suggest that these people don't know the definition of melody. You may not like the melody but I assure you that every rush song recorded has a distinct melody or melodies that repeat throughout the composition that are distinct and memorable. Some are not great like the chorus of superconductor but they are there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraroc Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) Who said vapor trails has a lack of melody? That's a ridiculous statement. The issue with the album has always been it sounding poor due to the "brickwalling." I'm unaware of any complaints about a lack of melody. Keep in mind, in a sea of silly Fraroc polls, this one is especially silly. Despite his attempt to explain why he's comparing these two albums, there's no reason to compare them. May as well be comparing VT to a pair of pink fuzzy bunny slippers. So I guess I'm not allowed to discuss anything on this site anymore. Where did I say that? I felt like you were trying to imply it. I mean, the only reason why I even make polls like this is because I like to spark discussion about certain subjects...and I do feel like a lot of people on this forum just write everything I post off as "stupid" before even taking the time out to see what I have to say. Edited December 4, 2016 by fraroc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union 5-3992 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I remember that a lot of the complaints about that album was due to the fact that some songs didn't have any sort of distinct melody where you can hum it and say "oh yeah, I know that song!". Granted, people were also saying similar things about CA, but I hear a lot more distinctive melody in that one than in VT, especially Freeze.Maybe you should actually listen to it before you make judgments on it. Write a review in your thread 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union 5-3992 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I definitely see a connection between the two albums though. Two early 2000's releases by bands after a break. They both featured no guitar solos and were panned by their fans. Both are considered one of the worst albums by each band. But I do actually like Vapor Trails, unlike St Anger 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraroc Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 I remember that a lot of the complaints about that album was due to the fact that some songs didn't have any sort of distinct melody where you can hum it and say "oh yeah, I know that song!". Granted, people were also saying similar things about CA, but I hear a lot more distinctive melody in that one than in VT, especially Freeze.Maybe you should actually listen to it before you make judgments on it. Write a review in your thread You're making me feel bad for abandoning that thread :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super25Smasher Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I like half of St. Anger, but more of Vapor Trails. Vapor Trails wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyBlaze Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Who said vapor trails has a lack of melody? That's a ridiculous statement. The issue with the album has always been it sounding poor due to the "brickwalling." I'm unaware of any complaints about a lack of melody. Keep in mind, in a sea of silly Fraroc polls, this one is especially silly. Despite his attempt to explain why he's comparing these two albums, there's no reason to compare them. May as well be comparing VT to a pair of pink fuzzy bunny slippers. So I guess I'm not allowed to discuss anything on this site anymore. Where did I say that? I felt like you were trying to imply it. I mean, the only reason why I even make polls like this is because I like to spark discussion about certain subjects...and I do feel like a lot of people on this forum just write everything I post off as "stupid" before even taking the time out to see what I have to say.That's funny because I've defended you more than once and you were nowhere to be found. Yet when I rip something you said, you're often crying about it. People rip each other's posts all the time on here. I've certainly had my share. So what? Some of your posts ARE stupid IMHO. Others ARE reasonable IMHO. So what? Sticking to the subject here, Vapor Trails obliterates St.Anger. And I've never read any post here commenting on VT lack of melody or poor melodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I remember that a lot of the complaints about that album was due to the fact that some songs didn't have any sort of distinct melody where you can hum it and say "oh yeah, I know that song!". Granted, people were also saying similar things about CA, but I hear a lot more distinctive melody in that one than in VT, especially Freeze.Maybe you should actually listen to it before you make judgments on it. Write a review in your threadI definitely see a connection between the two albums though. Two early 2000's releases by bands after a break. They both featured no guitar solos and were panned by their fans. Both are considered one of the worst albums by each band. But I do actually like Vapor Trails, unlike St Anger Fraroc, Union has the right way of looking at this. Instead of pitting the two albums against each other -- asking people on a Rush board to choose between a Rush album and a Metallica album that most Metallica fans hate -- maybe start a discussion about the interesting connection between the two, as Union did above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I remember that a lot of the complaints about that album was due to the fact that some songs didn't have any sort of distinct melody where you can hum it and say "oh yeah, I know that song!". Granted, people were also saying similar things about CA, but I hear a lot more distinctive melody in that one than in VT, especially Freeze.Maybe you should actually listen to it before you make judgments on it. Write a review in your threadI definitely see a connection between the two albums though. Two early 2000's releases by bands after a break. They both featured no guitar solos and were panned by their fans. Both are considered one of the worst albums by each band. But I do actually like Vapor Trails, unlike St Anger Fraroc, Union has the right way of looking at this. Instead of pitting the two albums against each other -- asking people on a Rush board to choose between a Rush album and a Metallica album that most Metallica fans hate -- maybe start a discussion about the interesting connection between the two, as Union did above.It's like confusing Mike Varney with Mark Varney. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New World Kid Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Vapor Trails is my favorite Rush album... sooo.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 OK I'll bite. They both suck. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yyz305 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) Vapor Trails is my favorite Rush album... sooo.... Same for me... Edited December 4, 2016 by yyz305 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Shirely you must be joking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union 5-3992 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I remember that a lot of the complaints about that album was due to the fact that some songs didn't have any sort of distinct melody where you can hum it and say "oh yeah, I know that song!". Granted, people were also saying similar things about CA, but I hear a lot more distinctive melody in that one than in VT, especially Freeze.Maybe you should actually listen to it before you make judgments on it. Write a review in your thread You're making me feel bad for abandoning that thread :PThere's no reason you can't return to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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