Jump to content


Ten Things We Learned from Time Stand Still - RS Article


34 replies to this topic

#21 Phantom

Phantom

    Prime Mover

  • Members *
  • 997 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 31 March 2017 - 10:04 AM

I was struck by the footage during the credits...especially by the emotion felt by the young boy from Brazil. It's difficult enough to watch emotional reactions from adults, but it hurts to watch a child being that sad.

Sponsored Post

#22 workingthemangels63

workingthemangels63

    The Seeker

  • Members
  • 118 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:southside va
  • Interests:music,tv,reading,hiking,my kids and grandkids,beautiful women2

Posted 15 June 2017 - 03:01 PM

i knew the night i saw them it was the last.RUSH may not be the most well known band in the world,but at least over the last 25 years they have been the best live act in the business and made ever show an event.they deserve to retire on their own conditions, hate to see them out there beating a dead horse in the late 60s and 70s like the who and the rolling stones have.they rocked out every concert 3 hrs in length for over 25 years.
that is like  crawling up mount everest blindfolded to me.

Edited by workingthemangels63, 15 June 2017 - 03:03 PM.


#23 fraroc

fraroc

    Solar Federalist

  • Members
  • 2469 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:Rock music, roller coasters, aviation, writing novels,

Posted 14 July 2017 - 07:29 PM

I'm just reading this article now, and it's actually a pretty painful read...because all the things I've posted about Neil being an asshole...deep down inside, I didn't want them to be true....now it seems like they are :(

Geddy and Alex are probably not going to do anything else together either because Neil implanted the idea in their heads that they're worthless and unmarketable without him...

I hope you're glad Neil, you may have ended your career on a high, but you didn't have to end the other two guys' careers without their consent.

Edited by fraroc, 14 July 2017 - 07:31 PM.


#24 JohnRogers

JohnRogers

    Holy Tai Shan!!!

  • Members *
  • 23952 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Troll beneath the George Washington Bridge
  • Interests:American Muscle/Sports cars, Movies, New York City Subway, Cigar Lounges

Posted 14 July 2017 - 07:37 PM

View Postfraroc, on 14 July 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Geddy and Alex are probably not going to do anything else together either because Neil implanted the idea in their heads that they're worthless and unmarketable without him...I hope you're glad Neil, you may have ended your career on a high, but you didn't have to end the other two guys' careers without their consent.
What??? I can't believe Neil would have that kind of influence on their psyches. Total BTS.

#25 fraroc

fraroc

    Solar Federalist

  • Members
  • 2469 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:Rock music, roller coasters, aviation, writing novels,

Posted 14 July 2017 - 08:56 PM

View PostJohnRogers, on 14 July 2017 - 07:37 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 14 July 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Geddy and Alex are probably not going to do anything else together either because Neil implanted the idea in their heads that they're worthless and unmarketable without him...I hope you're glad Neil, you may have ended your career on a high, but you didn't have to end the other two guys' careers without their consent.
What??? I can't believe Neil would have that kind of influence on their psyches. Total BTS.

It might not be psychological manipulation, but I'm sure thst they have this idea that Rush cannot exist without all three members.

If they tried to do a new musical project together with a different drummer, I'm sure there will be people out there that will give them crap about because "oh how can you tour without Neil Peart? This is just a cheap imitation of Rush!"

#26 theredtamasrule

theredtamasrule

    The Elitist Booby Type

  • Members
  • 8916 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Central KY

Posted 14 July 2017 - 09:08 PM

Put down the pipe and step away from the keyboard.

#27 DistantEarlySignals

DistantEarlySignals

    Superconductor

  • Members
  • 1244 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:USA

Posted 15 July 2017 - 06:16 PM

I'd absolutely hate for RUSH to tour without Neil. I want more, but I know it 99.99999999999%, ok let's just say it won't happen. I'd hate for them to turn into YES, with just one original member and a bunch of replacements (though the current YES doesn't sound that bad, let's face it, it's not YES). Time Machine/Clockwork Angels album cycle and R40 were a killer way to go out. End the career on two of your best tours and one of your best albums. Not much more we could ask for. Outside of RUSH, what other classic bands will fans rank the new stuff as high or higher than the old stuff? (For me, S&A is #1, Counterparts #2 and CA #6)

#28 fraroc

fraroc

    Solar Federalist

  • Members
  • 2469 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:Rock music, roller coasters, aviation, writing novels,

Posted 15 July 2017 - 10:52 PM

"We always said that if the three of us aren't on board, we don't do a thing. There have been other decisions in our career where the three of us weren't on board and we didn't do it. Nothing as profound as ending our touring life, but fair enough. So one guy doesn't want to do that thing anymore that I love to do. That hurts. But there's nothing I can do about it and that's part of the agreement."


I love Geddy Lee, but he really shouldn't let Neil trample all over his career like this. He needs to seriously grow a backbone.

On a similar note, I like Dennis DeYoung as a singer and songwriter, but sometimes, I think Tommy Shaw had the right idea continuing without him.

Edited by fraroc, 15 July 2017 - 10:53 PM.


#29 Alien Girl

Alien Girl

    Rushaholic

  • Members *
  • 1869 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:The Event Horizon
  • Interests:Interests?...I have no interests...I'm not an interesting person. Very one dimensional...like cardboard...or toast.

Posted 15 July 2017 - 11:27 PM

View Postfraroc, on 14 July 2017 - 08:56 PM, said:

View PostJohnRogers, on 14 July 2017 - 07:37 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 14 July 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Geddy and Alex are probably not going to do anything else together either because Neil implanted the idea in their heads that they're worthless and unmarketable without him...I hope you're glad Neil, you may have ended your career on a high, but you didn't have to end the other two guys' careers without their consent.
What??? I can't believe Neil would have that kind of influence on their psyches. Total BTS.

It might not be psychological manipulation, but I'm sure thst they have this idea that Rush cannot exist without all three members.

If they tried to do a new musical project together with a different drummer, I'm sure there will be people out there that will give them crap about because "oh how can you tour without Neil Peart? This is just a cheap imitation of Rush!"
Maybe not "cannot", but 'should not'...which is bullshit, but hey, a lot of fans here seem to think that as well.   I'd think it awesome if Geddy and Alex toured as Rush again (heck, even not as Rush).  They were the heart and soul of Rush on stage, what made the whole concert experience so entertaining...and as scandalous as it sounds, Neil and his set (with the exception of the drum solo) were back-ground.   Easily the most replaceable member of the band.  Talent or not.














:facepalm: I am going to get so much shit for saying that.

Edited by Alien Girl, 16 July 2017 - 12:20 AM.


#30 JohnRogers

JohnRogers

    Holy Tai Shan!!!

  • Members *
  • 23952 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Troll beneath the George Washington Bridge
  • Interests:American Muscle/Sports cars, Movies, New York City Subway, Cigar Lounges

Posted 16 July 2017 - 12:13 AM

View PostAlien Girl, on 15 July 2017 - 11:27 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 14 July 2017 - 08:56 PM, said:

View PostJohnRogers, on 14 July 2017 - 07:37 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 14 July 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Geddy and Alex are probably not going to do anything else together either because Neil implanted the idea in their heads that they're worthless and unmarketable without him...I hope you're glad Neil, you may have ended your career on a high, but you didn't have to end the other two guys' careers without their consent.
What??? I can't believe Neil would have that kind of influence on their psyches. Total BTS.

It might not be psychological manipulation, but I'm sure thst they have this idea that Rush cannot exist without all three members.

If they tried to do a new musical project together with a different drummer, I'm sure there will be people out there that will give them crap about because "oh how can you tour without Neil Peart? This is just a cheap imitation of Rush!"
Neil...the most replaceable member of the band.  Talent or not.





:facepalm: I am going to get so much shit for saying that.
:lol:

Probably...

#31 fraroc

fraroc

    Solar Federalist

  • Members
  • 2469 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:Rock music, roller coasters, aviation, writing novels,

Posted 16 July 2017 - 07:14 AM

View PostAlien Girl, on 15 July 2017 - 11:27 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 14 July 2017 - 08:56 PM, said:

View PostJohnRogers, on 14 July 2017 - 07:37 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 14 July 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Geddy and Alex are probably not going to do anything else together either because Neil implanted the idea in their heads that they're worthless and unmarketable without him...I hope you're glad Neil, you may have ended your career on a high, but you didn't have to end the other two guys' careers without their consent.
What??? I can't believe Neil would have that kind of influence on their psyches. Total BTS.

It might not be psychological manipulation, but I'm sure thst they have this idea that Rush cannot exist without all three members.

If they tried to do a new musical project together with a different drummer, I'm sure there will be people out there that will give them crap about because "oh how can you tour without Neil Peart? This is just a cheap imitation of Rush!"
Maybe not "cannot", but 'should not'...which is bullshit, but hey, a lot of fans here seem to think that as well.   I'd think it awesome if Geddy and Alex toured as Rush again (heck, even not as Rush).  They were the heart and soul of Rush on stage, what made the whole concert experience so entertaining...and as scandalous as it sounds, Neil and his set (with the exception of the drum solo) were back-ground.   Easily the most replaceable member of the band.  Talent or not.














:facepalm: I am going to get so much shit for saying that.

Besides, it seems more apparent than ever that in the end, Geddy and Alex weren't even talking to Neil that much and even Alex himself said a few months ago when asked about future Rush music and/or concerts that he doesn't know what will happen because he hasn't even heard from Neil in quite a while. For all intents and purposes they really aren't even "friends" with Neil anymore.

How are they even going to perform anymore if they're not even talking?

Edited by fraroc, 16 July 2017 - 07:17 AM.


#32 Union 5-3992

Union 5-3992

    A Pale Boy with only Half a Brain

  • Members *
  • 21173 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The rich and sunny planet Ursa Minor Beta (or Buffalo NY)

Posted 16 July 2017 - 02:38 PM

Jesus Christ....

If Geddy & Alex wanted to play bad enough, they would. End of story. Neil effectively ended it for his health and family, which wasn't a real surprise to anyone in the organization. Especially since they had to convince Neil to do the R40 shows to begin with. He wanted to hang it up before that even. Wanting to avoid further pain, enjoy more time with your family, and go out on top are "selfish" reasons, but none of them are bad or in anyway unreasonable.

#33 workingthemangels63

workingthemangels63

    The Seeker

  • Members
  • 118 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:southside va
  • Interests:music,tv,reading,hiking,my kids and grandkids,beautiful women2

Posted 17 July 2017 - 07:29 PM

been together over 40 years,i bet 30 0f those years they were touring. the guys in the band deserve to retire the way they wish.
i can see them still making albums.

#34 ytserush

ytserush

    The Professor

  • Members *
  • 3920 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:United States

Posted 17 July 2017 - 08:51 PM

View Postfraroc, on 16 July 2017 - 07:14 AM, said:

View PostAlien Girl, on 15 July 2017 - 11:27 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 14 July 2017 - 08:56 PM, said:

View PostJohnRogers, on 14 July 2017 - 07:37 PM, said:

View Postfraroc, on 14 July 2017 - 07:29 PM, said:

Geddy and Alex are probably not going to do anything else together either because Neil implanted the idea in their heads that they're worthless and unmarketable without him...I hope you're glad Neil, you may have ended your career on a high, but you didn't have to end the other two guys' careers without their consent.
What??? I can't believe Neil would have that kind of influence on their psyches. Total BTS.

It might not be psychological manipulation, but I'm sure thst they have this idea that Rush cannot exist without all three members.

If they tried to do a new musical project together with a different drummer, I'm sure there will be people out there that will give them crap about because "oh how can you tour without Neil Peart? This is just a cheap imitation of Rush!"
Maybe not "cannot", but 'should not'...which is bullshit, but hey, a lot of fans here seem to think that as well.   I'd think it awesome if Geddy and Alex toured as Rush again (heck, even not as Rush).  They were the heart and soul of Rush on stage, what made the whole concert experience so entertaining...and as scandalous as it sounds, Neil and his set (with the exception of the drum solo) were back-ground.   Easily the most replaceable member of the band.  Talent or not.














:facepalm: I am going to get so much shit for saying that.

Besides, it seems more apparent than ever that in the end, Geddy and Alex weren't even talking to Neil that much and even Alex himself said a few months ago when asked about future Rush music and/or concerts that he doesn't know what will happen because he hasn't even heard from Neil in quite a while. For all intents and purposes they really aren't even "friends" with Neil anymore.

How are they even going to perform anymore if they're not even talking?

Proof?

#35 garyg7133

garyg7133

    The Seeker

  • Members
  • 172 posts
  • Location:PA

Posted 08 August 2017 - 01:55 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but starting waaaaay back around the p/g or HYF days Peart was really only corresponding with Geddy and Alex via fax and email regarding the albums until it came time to actually get together and record. Stands to reason that he wouldn't really be bothered with them after the "ride" was over. That said, my only real gripe is that there wasn't another leg of the R40 tour. While I loved the setlist (minus 1 song) I would have loved to see a second leg with some other oldies brought out. I still can't even call it a gripe though because the sheer volume of DIFFERENT songs that they performed over the last 5 tours is amazing. They made a conscious effort to play stuff that had either never been played or VERY rarely been played. Loved every minute of the last 5 or 6 tours....hell, I loved every show that I saw but once they became "evening with" without any opening act the shows were epic.I can understand if Geddy and Alex are underwhelmed with the prospect of no more Rush, but Alex has been having problems with his hands for a very long time (as documented in the RIo video). Seems like the only one who wasn't physically breaking down was Geddy.



Reply to this topic



  


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users