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#21 ytserush

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 08:42 PM

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So it's going to be the show at auburn hills march 8th already available in You Tub, just frustrating that it's not the complete show.

That's where the clips from the doc appear to be from. The quality doesn't look that much better than the low-gen stuff that's already out there, but at least there's an official release. It would have made sense to release the whole show (which I'm sure will happen in the future based on the past several years. Laura Secord.... Capitol Theatre....)

I can't remember if I have the Palace DVD or not, but I have the whole show on video. Visually, the 3/8/90 Detroit show is better than Mountainview.

You think so? I agree that in terms of wide shots and overall coverage and stuff it's better captured as a show but I've got both the Mountain View and Auburn Hills shows from 1990 and I think Mountain view is much cleaner audio and video-wise. That's why I was shocked to hear people say the bonus content comes from the Auburn Hills proshot. Bordercollie wrote elsewhere - "The Presto footage is indeed from the Auburn Hills March 8 show.  Sounded fantastic and looked much better than what has been floating around the internet/trading circles.  The played a montage of Red Barchetta through the years and there were brief audio/video clips from various releases, including the "new" Presto footage." But I haven't seen the doc yet so I'll be curious to see for myself.



That may be true, but the footage from the doc seems to indicate it's from Auburn Hills because the clothes they are wearing in those clips match the Detroit show.

I'm not 100 percent sure on this but I think Auburn Hills may have been a pay-per-view show which would make it more likely that the band would have a copy of it.

But then the question becomes: Why not release the whole thing? (I have to admit this is my least favorite tour probably ever, so I would just rather hear the Presto songs and maybe a few other good performances of the oldies.)

I think the Mountain View performance is better than Auburn Hills myself, but  they may not have a copy of that.

Oh, I'm not arguing the source, I'm sure it's Auburn Hills. My "You think so?" was about your last sentence that Auburn Hills is better visually than MV.

It's been a while since I've watched both (Have the DVD now but will watch later) but I remember a lot more shots of the band during Auburn Hills, but I think performance-wise and visually Mountain View has the edge, but I just recall a lot of screen shots and dead space when I last watched the Mountain View show (Unless there are different recordings floating around which would mean I have an inferior copy.

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Posted 20 November 2016 - 11:27 PM

My copy that I pre-ordered was supposed to come on release date and now is being delayed until monday or tuesday, and I REALLY want to see Scars pro shot with professional sound/visual quality. I heard that each song fades in and out, is this true? That seems to be kind of awkward, oh well I can just rip the dvd and segue the audio together and make a little mini concert CD so that shouldn't be an issue.

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Posted 20 November 2016 - 11:31 PM

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So it's going to be the show at auburn hills march 8th already available in You Tub, just frustrating that it's not the complete show.

That's where the clips from the doc appear to be from. The quality doesn't look that much better than the low-gen stuff that's already out there, but at least there's an official release. It would have made sense to release the whole show (which I'm sure will happen in the future based on the past several years. Laura Secord.... Capitol Theatre....)

I can't remember if I have the Palace DVD or not, but I have the whole show on video. Visually, the 3/8/90 Detroit show is better than Mountainview.

You think so? I agree that in terms of wide shots and overall coverage and stuff it's better captured as a show but I've got both the Mountain View and Auburn Hills shows from 1990 and I think Mountain view is much cleaner audio and video-wise. That's why I was shocked to hear people say the bonus content comes from the Auburn Hills proshot. Bordercollie wrote elsewhere - "The Presto footage is indeed from the Auburn Hills March 8 show.  Sounded fantastic and looked much better than what has been floating around the internet/trading circles.  The played a montage of Red Barchetta through the years and there were brief audio/video clips from various releases, including the "new" Presto footage." But I haven't seen the doc yet so I'll be curious to see for myself.



That may be true, but the footage from the doc seems to indicate it's from Auburn Hills because the clothes they are wearing in those clips match the Detroit show.

I'm not 100 percent sure on this but I think Auburn Hills may have been a pay-per-view show which would make it more likely that the band would have a copy of it.

But then the question becomes: Why not release the whole thing? (I have to admit this is my least favorite tour probably ever, so I would just rather hear the Presto songs and maybe a few other good performances of the oldies.)

I think the Mountain View performance is better than Auburn Hills myself, but  they may not have a copy of that.

Oh, I'm not arguing the source, I'm sure it's Auburn Hills. My "You think so?" was about your last sentence that Auburn Hills is better visually than MV.

It's been a while since I've watched both (Have the DVD now but will watch later) but I remember a lot more shots of the band during Auburn Hills, but I think performance-wise and visually Mountain View has the edge, but I just recall a lot of screen shots and dead space when I last watched the Mountain View show (Unless there are different recordings floating around which would mean I have an inferior copy.

Mountain view was superior in Audio quality but I felt that the auburn hills pro shot had better video quality. I think both bootlegs kind of suck and the only decent bootleg to come from that tour was a soundboard from the hartford 90, but even then it's still not great. It seems a lot of people were a little weary about the inclusion of the presto footage on Time Stand Still but frankly im so glad they did! Songs like Scars, War Paint, and Superconductor haven't been officially released live and I think the whole album killed great songs with lame production and when played live there was a certain energy that was present that wasn't on the actual album and I think the inclusion of this footage is absolutely necessary. Especially Scars, which I think is such an unappreciated song and I don't get it. Infectious bassline, cool guitar improv by Alex (especially live, he really shreds on his guitar in some sections) and the African style drumming is pretty freaking great.

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Posted 21 November 2016 - 12:52 PM

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So it's going to be the show at auburn hills march 8th already available in You Tub, just frustrating that it's not the complete show.

That's where the clips from the doc appear to be from. The quality doesn't look that much better than the low-gen stuff that's already out there, but at least there's an official release. It would have made sense to release the whole show (which I'm sure will happen in the future based on the past several years. Laura Secord.... Capitol Theatre....)

I can't remember if I have the Palace DVD or not, but I have the whole show on video. Visually, the 3/8/90 Detroit show is better than Mountainview.

You think so? I agree that in terms of wide shots and overall coverage and stuff it's better captured as a show but I've got both the Mountain View and Auburn Hills shows from 1990 and I think Mountain view is much cleaner audio and video-wise. That's why I was shocked to hear people say the bonus content comes from the Auburn Hills proshot. Bordercollie wrote elsewhere - "The Presto footage is indeed from the Auburn Hills March 8 show.  Sounded fantastic and looked much better than what has been floating around the internet/trading circles.  The played a montage of Red Barchetta through the years and there were brief audio/video clips from various releases, including the "new" Presto footage." But I haven't seen the doc yet so I'll be curious to see for myself.



That may be true, but the footage from the doc seems to indicate it's from Auburn Hills because the clothes they are wearing in those clips match the Detroit show.

I'm not 100 percent sure on this but I think Auburn Hills may have been a pay-per-view show which would make it more likely that the band would have a copy of it.

But then the question becomes: Why not release the whole thing? (I have to admit this is my least favorite tour probably ever, so I would just rather hear the Presto songs and maybe a few other good performances of the oldies.)

I think the Mountain View performance is better than Auburn Hills myself, but  they may not have a copy of that.

Oh, I'm not arguing the source, I'm sure it's Auburn Hills. My "You think so?" was about your last sentence that Auburn Hills is better visually than MV.

It's been a while since I've watched both (Have the DVD now but will watch later) but I remember a lot more shots of the band during Auburn Hills, but I think performance-wise and visually Mountain View has the edge, but I just recall a lot of screen shots and dead space when I last watched the Mountain View show (Unless there are different recordings floating around which would mean I have an inferior copy.

Mountain view was superior in Audio quality but I felt that the auburn hills pro shot had better video quality. I think both bootlegs kind of suck and the only decent bootleg to come from that tour was a soundboard from the hartford 90, but even then it's still not great. It seems a lot of people were a little weary about the inclusion of the presto footage on Time Stand Still but frankly im so glad they did! Songs like Scars, War Paint, and Superconductor haven't been officially released live and I think the whole album killed great songs with lame production and when played live there was a certain energy that was present that wasn't on the actual album and I think the inclusion of this footage is absolutely necessary. Especially Scars, which I think is such an unappreciated song and I don't get it. Infectious bassline, cool guitar improv by Alex (especially live, he really shreds on his guitar in some sections) and the African style drumming is pretty freaking great.

Totally agree, I'm loving everything about this footage, the visuals and audio are great and the performances are terrific. All the Presto songs in particular though really shine. I saw that tour twice, in San Antonio and Dallas, and it was loud as hell (maybe the loudest I've ever heard them out of over 40 shows starting in 1988) and the new songs really impressed. I'm so glad we finally have high quality live official versions of these, just like I really appreciate all the previously unreleased live TFE stuff on the 1997 Toronto show.

And yeah, I love that Hartford show as well.

Edited by snowdog2112, 21 November 2016 - 12:52 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2016 - 06:21 PM

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So it's going to be the show at auburn hills march 8th already available in You Tub, just frustrating that it's not the complete show.

That's where the clips from the doc appear to be from. The quality doesn't look that much better than the low-gen stuff that's already out there, but at least there's an official release. It would have made sense to release the whole show (which I'm sure will happen in the future based on the past several years. Laura Secord.... Capitol Theatre....)

I can't remember if I have the Palace DVD or not, but I have the whole show on video. Visually, the 3/8/90 Detroit show is better than Mountainview.

You think so? I agree that in terms of wide shots and overall coverage and stuff it's better captured as a show but I've got both the Mountain View and Auburn Hills shows from 1990 and I think Mountain view is much cleaner audio and video-wise. That's why I was shocked to hear people say the bonus content comes from the Auburn Hills proshot. Bordercollie wrote elsewhere - "The Presto footage is indeed from the Auburn Hills March 8 show.  Sounded fantastic and looked much better than what has been floating around the internet/trading circles.  The played a montage of Red Barchetta through the years and there were brief audio/video clips from various releases, including the "new" Presto footage." But I haven't seen the doc yet so I'll be curious to see for myself.



That may be true, but the footage from the doc seems to indicate it's from Auburn Hills because the clothes they are wearing in those clips match the Detroit show.

I'm not 100 percent sure on this but I think Auburn Hills may have been a pay-per-view show which would make it more likely that the band would have a copy of it.

But then the question becomes: Why not release the whole thing? (I have to admit this is my least favorite tour probably ever, so I would just rather hear the Presto songs and maybe a few other good performances of the oldies.)

I think the Mountain View performance is better than Auburn Hills myself, but  they may not have a copy of that.

Oh, I'm not arguing the source, I'm sure it's Auburn Hills. My "You think so?" was about your last sentence that Auburn Hills is better visually than MV.

It's been a while since I've watched both (Have the DVD now but will watch later) but I remember a lot more shots of the band during Auburn Hills, but I think performance-wise and visually Mountain View has the edge, but I just recall a lot of screen shots and dead space when I last watched the Mountain View show (Unless there are different recordings floating around which would mean I have an inferior copy.

Mountain view was superior in Audio quality but I felt that the auburn hills pro shot had better video quality. I think both bootlegs kind of suck and the only decent bootleg to come from that tour was a soundboard from the hartford 90, but even then it's still not great. It seems a lot of people were a little weary about the inclusion of the presto footage on Time Stand Still but frankly im so glad they did! Songs like Scars, War Paint, and Superconductor haven't been officially released live and I think the whole album killed great songs with lame production and when played live there was a certain energy that was present that wasn't on the actual album and I think the inclusion of this footage is absolutely necessary. Especially Scars, which I think is such an unappreciated song and I don't get it. Infectious bassline, cool guitar improv by Alex (especially live, he really shreds on his guitar in some sections) and the African style drumming is pretty freaking great.

Totally agree, I'm loving everything about this footage, the visuals and audio are great and the performances are terrific. All the Presto songs in particular though really shine. I saw that tour twice, in San Antonio and Dallas, and it was loud as hell (maybe the loudest I've ever heard them out of over 40 shows starting in 1988) and the new songs really impressed. I'm so glad we finally have high quality live official versions of these, just like I really appreciate all the previously unreleased live TFE stuff on the 1997 Toronto show.

And yeah, I love that Hartford show as well.

Not as enthused as I hoped to be over the bonus footage. There's an improvement, but not as much as I was hoping for. (I wonder if they have the master of if they just remastered a you tube video ? Is there a way to tell?)

But I'm sure I've been spoiled by watching this show about once every few years since it came out a few months after the gig. I do love the Presto songs though and it's nice for them to get a commercial release.   Maybe the Presto Tour being my least favorite Rush tour ever may have something to do with it too. Not enough live Presto songs either.

Always loved the drum flourish at the end of Superconductor too.

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Posted 21 November 2016 - 07:47 PM

I was thrilled with the quality of the bonus stuff. It definitely looked waaaaay better than the bootleg, and sounded good too

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So it's going to be the show at auburn hills march 8th already available in You Tub, just frustrating that it's not the complete show.

That's where the clips from the doc appear to be from. The quality doesn't look that much better than the low-gen stuff that's already out there, but at least there's an official release. It would have made sense to release the whole show (which I'm sure will happen in the future based on the past several years. Laura Secord.... Capitol Theatre....)

I can't remember if I have the Palace DVD or not, but I have the whole show on video. Visually, the 3/8/90 Detroit show is better than Mountainview.

You think so? I agree that in terms of wide shots and overall coverage and stuff it's better captured as a show but I've got both the Mountain View and Auburn Hills shows from 1990 and I think Mountain view is much cleaner audio and video-wise. That's why I was shocked to hear people say the bonus content comes from the Auburn Hills proshot. Bordercollie wrote elsewhere - "The Presto footage is indeed from the Auburn Hills March 8 show.  Sounded fantastic and looked much better than what has been floating around the internet/trading circles.  The played a montage of Red Barchetta through the years and there were brief audio/video clips from various releases, including the "new" Presto footage." But I haven't seen the doc yet so I'll be curious to see for myself.



That may be true, but the footage from the doc seems to indicate it's from Auburn Hills because the clothes they are wearing in those clips match the Detroit show.

I'm not 100 percent sure on this but I think Auburn Hills may have been a pay-per-view show which would make it more likely that the band would have a copy of it.

But then the question becomes: Why not release the whole thing? (I have to admit this is my least favorite tour probably ever, so I would just rather hear the Presto songs and maybe a few other good performances of the oldies.)

I think the Mountain View performance is better than Auburn Hills myself, but  they may not have a copy of that.

Oh, I'm not arguing the source, I'm sure it's Auburn Hills. My "You think so?" was about your last sentence that Auburn Hills is better visually than MV.

It's been a while since I've watched both (Have the DVD now but will watch later) but I remember a lot more shots of the band during Auburn Hills, but I think performance-wise and visually Mountain View has the edge, but I just recall a lot of screen shots and dead space when I last watched the Mountain View show (Unless there are different recordings floating around which would mean I have an inferior copy.

Mountain view was superior in Audio quality but I felt that the auburn hills pro shot had better video quality. I think both bootlegs kind of suck and the only decent bootleg to come from that tour was a soundboard from the hartford 90, but even then it's still not great. It seems a lot of people were a little weary about the inclusion of the presto footage on Time Stand Still but frankly im so glad they did! Songs like Scars, War Paint, and Superconductor haven't been officially released live and I think the whole album killed great songs with lame production and when played live there was a certain energy that was present that wasn't on the actual album and I think the inclusion of this footage is absolutely necessary. Especially Scars, which I think is such an unappreciated song and I don't get it. Infectious bassline, cool guitar improv by Alex (especially live, he really shreds on his guitar in some sections) and the African style drumming is pretty freaking great.

Totally agree, I'm loving everything about this footage, the visuals and audio are great and the performances are terrific. All the Presto songs in particular though really shine. I saw that tour twice, in San Antonio and Dallas, and it was loud as hell (maybe the loudest I've ever heard them out of over 40 shows starting in 1988) and the new songs really impressed. I'm so glad we finally have high quality live official versions of these, just like I really appreciate all the previously unreleased live TFE stuff on the 1997 Toronto show.

And yeah, I love that Hartford show as well.

Yeah, now i'm just hoping they will release some Counterparts Pro Shot footage!

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Posted 22 November 2016 - 09:08 AM

Yes CP tour stuff would be awesome. More 90s! It's a dry period visually for the band as far as official releases. That was the period I really became an obsessive of the band and saw my first show on the CP tour. So it would be a joy to have. I would like the T4E stuff too, but I have all the other concerts in the box set, so I am hoping for a stand alone release of that footage at some point.

And yes the Presto footage is welcome and it is great to see rarely played Presto songs live.

Edited by Wil1972, 22 November 2016 - 09:10 AM.


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So it's going to be the show at auburn hills march 8th already available in You Tub, just frustrating that it's not the complete show.

That's where the clips from the doc appear to be from. The quality doesn't look that much better than the low-gen stuff that's already out there, but at least there's an official release. It would have made sense to release the whole show (which I'm sure will happen in the future based on the past several years. Laura Secord.... Capitol Theatre....)

I can't remember if I have the Palace DVD or not, but I have the whole show on video. Visually, the 3/8/90 Detroit show is better than Mountainview.

You think so? I agree that in terms of wide shots and overall coverage and stuff it's better captured as a show but I've got both the Mountain View and Auburn Hills shows from 1990 and I think Mountain view is much cleaner audio and video-wise. That's why I was shocked to hear people say the bonus content comes from the Auburn Hills proshot. Bordercollie wrote elsewhere - "The Presto footage is indeed from the Auburn Hills March 8 show.  Sounded fantastic and looked much better than what has been floating around the internet/trading circles.  The played a montage of Red Barchetta through the years and there were brief audio/video clips from various releases, including the "new" Presto footage." But I haven't seen the doc yet so I'll be curious to see for myself.



That may be true, but the footage from the doc seems to indicate it's from Auburn Hills because the clothes they are wearing in those clips match the Detroit show.

I'm not 100 percent sure on this but I think Auburn Hills may have been a pay-per-view show which would make it more likely that the band would have a copy of it.

But then the question becomes: Why not release the whole thing? (I have to admit this is my least favorite tour probably ever, so I would just rather hear the Presto songs and maybe a few other good performances of the oldies.)

I think the Mountain View performance is better than Auburn Hills myself, but  they may not have a copy of that.

Oh, I'm not arguing the source, I'm sure it's Auburn Hills. My "You think so?" was about your last sentence that Auburn Hills is better visually than MV.

It's been a while since I've watched both (Have the DVD now but will watch later) but I remember a lot more shots of the band during Auburn Hills, but I think performance-wise and visually Mountain View has the edge, but I just recall a lot of screen shots and dead space when I last watched the Mountain View show (Unless there are different recordings floating around which would mean I have an inferior copy.

Mountain view was superior in Audio quality but I felt that the auburn hills pro shot had better video quality. I think both bootlegs kind of suck and the only decent bootleg to come from that tour was a soundboard from the hartford 90, but even then it's still not great. It seems a lot of people were a little weary about the inclusion of the presto footage on Time Stand Still but frankly im so glad they did! Songs like Scars, War Paint, and Superconductor haven't been officially released live and I think the whole album killed great songs with lame production and when played live there was a certain energy that was present that wasn't on the actual album and I think the inclusion of this footage is absolutely necessary. Especially Scars, which I think is such an unappreciated song and I don't get it. Infectious bassline, cool guitar improv by Alex (especially live, he really shreds on his guitar in some sections) and the African style drumming is pretty freaking great.

Well said. So much TRF chat about the production of the Presto, RGB and CP era...these albums have strong tunes with confusing production.

Seeing a cleaner version of Presto tour (AND THE GIANT RABBITS!!) brought me right back to 1990. These songs were very good live, as was Geddys live vocals back then

Hopefully they will release the full show and also material from CP and RtB tours also.

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Posted 22 November 2016 - 12:12 PM

I was a little disappointed that we see a piece of Red Barchetta in the doc, but the full song was not included.  Maybe they assume we fans have all the versions of it that we need (but then, why yet another TS?).  Overall, very nice footage.  I didn't have the bootleg, so it's all new to me.

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Posted 23 November 2016 - 12:28 AM

There are a few cuts from the presto tour that I wish they included as well, such as Xanadu and also on an unrelated note, you think since the documentary is called "Time Stand Still" then they would have included that song on the bonus footage, since we dont have footage of that song in that era and it would just make sense, but there are a few others that I wish was included. Hell I wish they gave us the full show lol. But in a way im just really thankful they just gave us SOMETHING from the tour, at a MUCH higher quality then we have ever had from the tour. And they also included all the presto songs played from the tour which are really the highlights.

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Posted 28 November 2016 - 05:57 PM

View PostRangerXT, on 23 November 2016 - 12:28 AM, said:

There are a few cuts from the presto tour that I wish they included as well, such as Xanadu and also on an unrelated note, you think since the documentary is called "Time Stand Still" then they would have included that song on the bonus footage, since we dont have footage of that song in that era and it would just make sense, but there are a few others that I wish was included. Hell I wish they gave us the full show lol. But in a way im just really thankful they just gave us SOMETHING from the tour, at a MUCH higher quality then we have ever had from the tour. And they also included all the presto songs played from the tour which are really the highlights.

Other than the Presto songs, I'm not much of a fan of the older songs the way they were performed on this tour.

Here's the whole show.

https://www.youtube....h?v=YQNjeprtBDU

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 02:00 AM

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View PostRangerXT, on 23 November 2016 - 12:28 AM, said:

There are a few cuts from the presto tour that I wish they included as well, such as Xanadu and also on an unrelated note, you think since the documentary is called "Time Stand Still" then they would have included that song on the bonus footage, since we dont have footage of that song in that era and it would just make sense, but there are a few others that I wish was included. Hell I wish they gave us the full show lol. But in a way im just really thankful they just gave us SOMETHING from the tour, at a MUCH higher quality then we have ever had from the tour. And they also included all the presto songs played from the tour which are really the highlights.

Other than the Presto songs, I'm not much of a fan of the older songs the way they were performed on this tour.

Here's the whole show.

https://www.youtube....h?v=YQNjeprtBDU

I agree, although La Villa sounded way better then it did on the HYF tour.

It's crazy watching the footage you just uploaded and comparing it to what was included on the Documentary. The quality is MILES ahead!

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 04:06 PM

I wish they would release the rest of the HYF footage. They recorded over the three nights. They absolutely have to have all of the songs , or other funny bloopers and stuff that was cut out. I loved the ASOH CD. I play it over and over. I wore out the cassette AND the CD. I wish they would've included more on the DVD, but this is a totally different topic than the Presto footage.

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 04:13 PM

I would be more excited that they released more footage from the Exit Stage Left DVD but I don't count on this. It would be my 10th version of that show!

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Posted 02 December 2016 - 08:02 PM

View PostTFEman, on 12 November 2016 - 01:35 PM, said:

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View Postrugen, on 04 November 2016 - 03:03 PM, said:

So it's going to be the show at auburn hills march 8th already available in You Tub, just frustrating that it's not the complete show.

That's where the clips from the doc appear to be from. The quality doesn't look that much better than the low-gen stuff that's already out there, but at least there's an official release. It would have made sense to release the whole show (which I'm sure will happen in the future based on the past several years. Laura Secord.... Capitol Theatre....)

I can't remember if I have the Palace DVD or not, but I have the whole show on video. Visually, the 3/8/90 Detroit show is better than Mountainview.

You think so? I agree that in terms of wide shots and overall coverage and stuff it's better captured as a show but I've got both the Mountain View and Auburn Hills shows from 1990 and I think Mountain view is much cleaner audio and video-wise. That's why I was shocked to hear people say the bonus content comes from the Auburn Hills proshot. Bordercollie wrote elsewhere - "The Presto footage is indeed from the Auburn Hills March 8 show.  Sounded fantastic and looked much better than what has been floating around the internet/trading circles.  The played a montage of Red Barchetta through the years and there were brief audio/video clips from various releases, including the "new" Presto footage." But I haven't seen the doc yet so I'll be curious to see for myself.

Secondly, TFEman wrote above "I can't stress enough that Rush has access to TONS of pro-shot footage that was always ready just in case they wanted to make a lconcert film. I would expect neither of those two boots to be the source of this new bonus content." but I couldn't disagree more. While their live audio recordings are almost surely extensive I'm pretty sure their video library is virtually exhausted other than the remaining half of the Toronto TFE show. The only hope for any other proshot shows would be if somehow another venue filmed show leaked. I'm still holding out hope that the RTB tour was also fully filmed at Auburn Hills. There are so many proshot clips from throughout the show and the previous and following tours were both filmed there.

Other than that? We'd have to get really lucky that maybe one of the other venues like the Houston Summit that filmed often may have something in their vault. But that's about it. The ONLY other hope I see is more footage from shows we've already seen. For example, the Atlanta show in 2008 that the four bonus songs were pulled from. They obviously filmed more because there are several other different songs on Neil's own dvd that were filmed there. And then of course there's the slim hope that the remaining footage from the three 80s shows could be found and restored. I don't think we'll ever see any more of those though. But people who are just assuming that Rush has all these proshot shows just sitting in a vault are not realistic at all about that. I've heard people say things like "They should release a dvd from the Signals tour" or some other random thing as though they can just go back in time and film stuff. Filming a show is a major undertaking and is also almost impossible to do without people knowing. The idea that they set up (especially 20 or more years ago when there weren't even rearscreen cameras) and filmed shows that we don't know about is just fantasy.

So those are my thoughts...
I said that because I was told that by someone that the band supposedly sits on a lot of footage from a couple of tours. I never said I believe it, or that I know 100% for a fact. It was also kind-of an assumption, considering how on almost all of their live albums before R30, they have bonus tracks from different dates during the tour, or in the case of Different Stages, different dates from an entirely different tour.

Geddy is on the record as saying that nearly every show from the Test For Echo Tour was recorded (audio) because they could (whether they still have all of that is another story entirely.)

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Posted 03 December 2016 - 07:19 PM

Finally got to see this as i just picked up Time Stand Still.  Very impressed by the quality and so happy to have a video of all those rarely played Presto songs.  Presto was the first tour I saw Rush on and I was very impressed by the set list & show even though I was not, at that time, impressed with the Presto album.  That came many years latter.  Now I thrilled to have a video that is heavy with the Presto songs.

Oddly though, the thing I was happiest to see was those wonderful bunny's!!!

I remember seeing them during the Presto tour and loving them.  Those wonderful, floppy eared, hopping, head banging bunny's.  Thought they were so cool.  So happy to see them again.  Was hoping they would be in the video and was so thrilled when they were.

I know its strange but what can I say.

Now if we could just a full Presto show & a full Counterparts show.  This gives me hope that those were recorded (plus perhaps more, older shows).

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Posted 04 December 2016 - 12:42 AM

View Postytserush, on 02 December 2016 - 08:02 PM, said:

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View Postrugen, on 04 November 2016 - 03:03 PM, said:

So it's going to be the show at auburn hills march 8th already available in You Tub, just frustrating that it's not the complete show.

That's where the clips from the doc appear to be from. The quality doesn't look that much better than the low-gen stuff that's already out there, but at least there's an official release. It would have made sense to release the whole show (which I'm sure will happen in the future based on the past several years. Laura Secord.... Capitol Theatre....)

I can't remember if I have the Palace DVD or not, but I have the whole show on video. Visually, the 3/8/90 Detroit show is better than Mountainview.

You think so? I agree that in terms of wide shots and overall coverage and stuff it's better captured as a show but I've got both the Mountain View and Auburn Hills shows from 1990 and I think Mountain view is much cleaner audio and video-wise. That's why I was shocked to hear people say the bonus content comes from the Auburn Hills proshot. Bordercollie wrote elsewhere - "The Presto footage is indeed from the Auburn Hills March 8 show.  Sounded fantastic and looked much better than what has been floating around the internet/trading circles.  The played a montage of Red Barchetta through the years and there were brief audio/video clips from various releases, including the "new" Presto footage." But I haven't seen the doc yet so I'll be curious to see for myself.

Secondly, TFEman wrote above "I can't stress enough that Rush has access to TONS of pro-shot footage that was always ready just in case they wanted to make a lconcert film. I would expect neither of those two boots to be the source of this new bonus content." but I couldn't disagree more. While their live audio recordings are almost surely extensive I'm pretty sure their video library is virtually exhausted other than the remaining half of the Toronto TFE show. The only hope for any other proshot shows would be if somehow another venue filmed show leaked. I'm still holding out hope that the RTB tour was also fully filmed at Auburn Hills. There are so many proshot clips from throughout the show and the previous and following tours were both filmed there.

Other than that? We'd have to get really lucky that maybe one of the other venues like the Houston Summit that filmed often may have something in their vault. But that's about it. The ONLY other hope I see is more footage from shows we've already seen. For example, the Atlanta show in 2008 that the four bonus songs were pulled from. They obviously filmed more because there are several other different songs on Neil's own dvd that were filmed there. And then of course there's the slim hope that the remaining footage from the three 80s shows could be found and restored. I don't think we'll ever see any more of those though. But people who are just assuming that Rush has all these proshot shows just sitting in a vault are not realistic at all about that. I've heard people say things like "They should release a dvd from the Signals tour" or some other random thing as though they can just go back in time and film stuff. Filming a show is a major undertaking and is also almost impossible to do without people knowing. The idea that they set up (especially 20 or more years ago when there weren't even rearscreen cameras) and filmed shows that we don't know about is just fantasy.

So those are my thoughts...
I said that because I was told that by someone that the band supposedly sits on a lot of footage from a couple of tours. I never said I believe it, or that I know 100% for a fact. It was also kind-of an assumption, considering how on almost all of their live albums before R30, they have bonus tracks from different dates during the tour, or in the case of Different Stages, different dates from an entirely different tour.

Geddy is on the record as saying that nearly every show from the Test For Echo Tour was recorded (audio) because they could (whether they still have all of that is another story entirely.)

I thought this was also the case with the HYF tour, and every night has been recorded starting with January 22, 1994.

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 06:38 PM

View Post78jazz, on 04 December 2016 - 12:42 AM, said:

View Postytserush, on 02 December 2016 - 08:02 PM, said:

View PostTFEman, on 12 November 2016 - 01:35 PM, said:

View Postsnowdog2112, on 07 November 2016 - 09:03 PM, said:

View Postytserush, on 04 November 2016 - 05:14 PM, said:

View Postrugen, on 04 November 2016 - 03:03 PM, said:

So it's going to be the show at auburn hills march 8th already available in You Tub, just frustrating that it's not the complete show.

That's where the clips from the doc appear to be from. The quality doesn't look that much better than the low-gen stuff that's already out there, but at least there's an official release. It would have made sense to release the whole show (which I'm sure will happen in the future based on the past several years. Laura Secord.... Capitol Theatre....)

I can't remember if I have the Palace DVD or not, but I have the whole show on video. Visually, the 3/8/90 Detroit show is better than Mountainview.

You think so? I agree that in terms of wide shots and overall coverage and stuff it's better captured as a show but I've got both the Mountain View and Auburn Hills shows from 1990 and I think Mountain view is much cleaner audio and video-wise. That's why I was shocked to hear people say the bonus content comes from the Auburn Hills proshot. Bordercollie wrote elsewhere - "The Presto footage is indeed from the Auburn Hills March 8 show.  Sounded fantastic and looked much better than what has been floating around the internet/trading circles.  The played a montage of Red Barchetta through the years and there were brief audio/video clips from various releases, including the "new" Presto footage." But I haven't seen the doc yet so I'll be curious to see for myself.

Secondly, TFEman wrote above "I can't stress enough that Rush has access to TONS of pro-shot footage that was always ready just in case they wanted to make a lconcert film. I would expect neither of those two boots to be the source of this new bonus content." but I couldn't disagree more. While their live audio recordings are almost surely extensive I'm pretty sure their video library is virtually exhausted other than the remaining half of the Toronto TFE show. The only hope for any other proshot shows would be if somehow another venue filmed show leaked. I'm still holding out hope that the RTB tour was also fully filmed at Auburn Hills. There are so many proshot clips from throughout the show and the previous and following tours were both filmed there.

Other than that? We'd have to get really lucky that maybe one of the other venues like the Houston Summit that filmed often may have something in their vault. But that's about it. The ONLY other hope I see is more footage from shows we've already seen. For example, the Atlanta show in 2008 that the four bonus songs were pulled from. They obviously filmed more because there are several other different songs on Neil's own dvd that were filmed there. And then of course there's the slim hope that the remaining footage from the three 80s shows could be found and restored. I don't think we'll ever see any more of those though. But people who are just assuming that Rush has all these proshot shows just sitting in a vault are not realistic at all about that. I've heard people say things like "They should release a dvd from the Signals tour" or some other random thing as though they can just go back in time and film stuff. Filming a show is a major undertaking and is also almost impossible to do without people knowing. The idea that they set up (especially 20 or more years ago when there weren't even rearscreen cameras) and filmed shows that we don't know about is just fantasy.

So those are my thoughts...
I said that because I was told that by someone that the band supposedly sits on a lot of footage from a couple of tours. I never said I believe it, or that I know 100% for a fact. It was also kind-of an assumption, considering how on almost all of their live albums before R30, they have bonus tracks from different dates during the tour, or in the case of Different Stages, different dates from an entirely different tour.

Geddy is on the record as saying that nearly every show from the Test For Echo Tour was recorded (audio) because they could (whether they still have all of that is another story entirely.)

I thought this was also the case with the HYF tour, and every night has been recorded starting with January 22, 1994.
How did you find that out? I knew there had to be some explaination for the Counterparts SBDs on Different Stages but I had no idea they recorded eery single show.

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 06:40 PM

Honestly, I'd love to get another TFE, Vapor Trails, or CA concert released on iTunes or something. The CA mix was awful, and the TFE & Vapor Trails tours left out some of my favorites: Limbo, Virtuality, Time and Motion, Ceiling Unlimited.



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