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[JohnnyBlaze]

x1yyz, on 16 September 2016 - 09:31 AM, said:

As long as we have a sushi thread going here...

Mmm, sushi!  People seem surprised that, as a vegetarian, I love sushi.  However, "sushi" is just the term for a certain kind of little rolls/pieces of food with rice, and does not need to include fish.  There is some fantastic vegetarian/vegan sushi out there.  In fact, a vegan sushi restaurant recently opened in San Francisco and not only are they delicious, their presentation blows most sushi restaurants out of the water.

That's true (about the non-fish sushi). I'm trying hard to think of a non-seafood sushi roll that I've seen out here but I can only remember one with corn.

[JohnnyBlaze]

The best non-fish sushi for me is probably shrimp. Raw shrimp isn't that tasty to me so I prefer the cooked ones.

Other non-fish sushi...

Octopus -- ok but I can skip it.

Squid -- Cooked squid (especially deep fried) is fine but raw ---> there's a 32.4391379% chance of me choking on that. That shit doesn't go down very easily!

Sea urchin -- pretty gross

Salmon roe -- might as well just squirt any random juice down my throat and except the consequences of that

[geezer]

I love many things coming from the Rising Sun, but nothing can beat a grilled slice of tuna or swordfish and salted cod.

[JohnnyBlaze]

geezer, on 16 September 2016 - 10:57 AM, said:

I love many things coming from the Rising Sun, but nothing can beat a grilled slice of tuna or swordfish and salted cod.

Oh yeah, my favorite fish to beat would be grilled salmon or grilled swordfish. Imho, best grilled salmon or swordfish vs the best sushi would be like the Super Bowl champ vs the BCS champ.

[sullysue]

JohnnyBlaze, on 16 September 2016 - 10:24 AM, said:

Sea urchin -- pretty gross

This!

It's visually unappealing, and the texture is even worse. Maybe the most disgusting thing I've ever eaten.

[geezer]

sullysue, on 16 September 2016 - 11:13 AM, said:

JohnnyBlaze, on 16 September 2016 - 10:24 AM, said:

Sea urchin -- pretty gross

This!

It's visually unappealing, and the texture is even worse. Maybe the most disgusting thing I've ever eaten.

Aye. What's next? Bloody spiders???
But the small piece of shark I ate in Iceland was far worse (those Vikings  bury the sea predatorr in sand and use to urinate on it to preserve it; tastes too 'exotic' for a tourist....

[sullysue]

geezer, on 16 September 2016 - 11:23 AM, said:

sullysue, on 16 September 2016 - 11:13 AM, said:

JohnnyBlaze, on 16 September 2016 - 10:24 AM, said:

Sea urchin -- pretty gross

This!

It's visually unappealing, and the texture is even worse. Maybe the most disgusting thing I've ever eaten.

Aye. What's next? Bloody spiders???
But the small piece of shark I ate in Iceland was far worse (those Vikings  bury the sea predatorr in sand and use to urinate on it to preserve it; tastes too 'exotic' for a tourist....

Damn... that sounds HORRIBLE!

[JohnnyBlaze]

geezer, on 16 September 2016 - 11:23 AM, said:

sullysue, on 16 September 2016 - 11:13 AM, said:

JohnnyBlaze, on 16 September 2016 - 10:24 AM, said:

Sea urchin -- pretty gross

This!

It's visually unappealing, and the texture is even worse. Maybe the most disgusting thing I've ever eaten.

Aye. What's next? Bloody spiders???
But the small piece of shark I ate in Iceland was far worse (those Vikings  bury the sea predatorr in sand and use to urinate on it to preserve it; tastes too 'exotic' for a tourist....

Do I need to bust out with the shirako photos again? ...because that's the most disgusting thing I've tried. I'd eat 3 sea urchin sushi before eating 1 bite of shirako. 99% of the time, I follow the idea "I'll try any dish once". Some ideas are stupid.

[geezer]

sullysue, on 16 September 2016 - 11:29 AM, said:

geezer, on 16 September 2016 - 11:23 AM, said:

sullysue, on 16 September 2016 - 11:13 AM, said:

JohnnyBlaze, on 16 September 2016 - 10:24 AM, said:

Sea urchin -- pretty gross

This!

It's visually unappealing, and the texture is even worse. Maybe the most disgusting thing I've ever eaten.

Aye. What's next? Bloody spiders???
But the small piece of shark I ate in Iceland was far worse (those Vikings  bury the sea predatorr in sand and use to urinate on it to preserve it; tastes too 'exotic' for a tourist....

Damn... that sounds HORRIBLE!

HORRIBLE just gives a pale idea.... Drinking then a good shot of Brennivin (their local firewater) as quickly as you can is the only way to survive (you erase the taste, but alas not the memory of it!)
And I remember our local guide eating half a dozen of that deadly little cubes as we eat candies or pralines.

[Ancient Ways]

If you could see everything that happened to your chopstick before you got it you would never be able to use it.

I have learned to love sushi but only eat cooked seafood.  Just not convinced undercooked/uncooked seafood is safe to eat.

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Ancient Ways, on 16 September 2016 - 12:25 PM, said:

If you could see everything that happened to your chopstick before you got it you would never be able to use it.

As long as the chopsticks are new and are sealed in those protective paper wrappers I can remain blissfully ignorant.

[treeduck]

Isn't raw fish full of tape worms eggs that hatch inside your belly messing you up permanently?

[sullysue]

treeduck, on 16 September 2016 - 02:12 PM, said:

Isn't raw fish full of tape worms eggs that hatch inside your belly messing you up permanently?

It's a risk, for certain. Sushi grade fish is very fresh and then brought down to a temperature just above freezing to kill any critters like your friend here. Sushi restaurants don't want to be known for giving their patrons tapeworms, so I'm sure food safety is their absolute top priority. And, reading reviews helps in finding the best sushi places around where you live.

[Ancient Ways]

sullysue, on 16 September 2016 - 02:51 PM, said:

treeduck, on 16 September 2016 - 02:12 PM, said:

Isn't raw fish full of tape worms eggs that hatch inside your belly messing you up permanently?

It's a risk, for certain. Sushi grade fish is very fresh and then brought down to a temperature just above freezing to kill any critters like your friend here. Sushi restaurants don't want to be known for giving their patrons tapeworms, so I'm sure food safety is their absolute top priority. And, reading reviews helps in finding the best sushi places around where you live.

The water is very warm where I live (Tampa, Florida) so all of our fish must be fully cooked to avoid getting sick.  It used to be easy to get raw oysters on the half shell around here until some people got very sick and some died.  Now, most places don't have it and those that do have a plethora of warnings not to do it.  This makes me more cautious than most I guess.

[sullysue]

Ancient Ways, on 16 September 2016 - 03:18 PM, said:

sullysue, on 16 September 2016 - 02:51 PM, said:

treeduck, on 16 September 2016 - 02:12 PM, said:

Isn't raw fish full of tape worms eggs that hatch inside your belly messing you up permanently?

It's a risk, for certain. Sushi grade fish is very fresh and then brought down to a temperature just above freezing to kill any critters like your friend here. Sushi restaurants don't want to be known for giving their patrons tapeworms, so I'm sure food safety is their absolute top priority. And, reading reviews helps in finding the best sushi places around where you live.

The water is very warm where I live (Tampa, Florida) so all of our fish must be fully cooked to avoid getting sick.  It used to be easy to get raw oysters on the half shell around here until some people got very sick and some died.  Now, most places don't have it and those that do have a plethora of warnings not to do it.  This makes me more cautious than most I guess.

I'm super weary of ANYTHING that comes out of the Gulf of Mexico these days. On the Texas coast, that has to be one of the grossest bodies of water on the planet.

[JohnnyBlaze]

Ancient Ways, on 16 September 2016 - 03:18 PM, said:

sullysue, on 16 September 2016 - 02:51 PM, said:

treeduck, on 16 September 2016 - 02:12 PM, said:

Isn't raw fish full of tape worms eggs that hatch inside your belly messing you up permanently?

It's a risk, for certain. Sushi grade fish is very fresh and then brought down to a temperature just above freezing to kill any critters like your friend here. Sushi restaurants don't want to be known for giving their patrons tapeworms, so I'm sure food safety is their absolute top priority. And, reading reviews helps in finding the best sushi places around where you live.

The water is very warm where I live (Tampa, Florida) so all of our fish must be fully cooked to avoid getting sick.  It used to be easy to get raw oysters on the half shell around here until some people got very sick and some died.  Now, most places don't have it and those that do have a plethora of warnings not to do it.  This makes me more cautious than most I guess.

Same thing happened in Jacksonville I think some time in the 80s...not death, but sickness and a lot of closings.

As far as tapeworms messing you up permanently, Okinawa has the highest life expectancy on the planet. Additionally, Japan has the largest number of centenarians on the planet. Are they living with tapeworms for decades? Maybe, but I doubt it.

Having said all that, I DO see a lot of medicine ads for stomach pain/ache.

BUT infinitely worse than sushi or sashimi is raw chicken. That shit is absolutely gross and the number of people getting sick from it is ridiculously high compared to sushi/sashimi/raw oyster eaters. I tried raw chicken once. I didn't get sick but the taste was exactly as you'd expect. It's surprising the number of raw chicken restaurants out here that flourish.

[sullysue]

JohnnyBlaze, on 16 September 2016 - 08:59 PM, said:

Ancient Ways, on 16 September 2016 - 03:18 PM, said:

sullysue, on 16 September 2016 - 02:51 PM, said:

treeduck, on 16 September 2016 - 02:12 PM, said:

Isn't raw fish full of tape worms eggs that hatch inside your belly messing you up permanently?

It's a risk, for certain. Sushi grade fish is very fresh and then brought down to a temperature just above freezing to kill any critters like your friend here. Sushi restaurants don't want to be known for giving their patrons tapeworms, so I'm sure food safety is their absolute top priority. And, reading reviews helps in finding the best sushi places around where you live.

The water is very warm where I live (Tampa, Florida) so all of our fish must be fully cooked to avoid getting sick.  It used to be easy to get raw oysters on the half shell around here until some people got very sick and some died.  Now, most places don't have it and those that do have a plethora of warnings not to do it.  This makes me more cautious than most I guess.

Same thing happened in Jacksonville I think some time in the 80s...not death, but sickness and a lot of closings.

As far as tapeworms messing you up permanently, Okinawa has the highest life expectancy on the planet. Additionally, Japan has the largest number of centenarians on the planet. Are they living with tapeworms for decades? Maybe, but I doubt it.

Having said all that, I DO see a lot of medicine ads for stomach pain/ache.

BUT infinitely worse than sushi or sashimi is raw chicken. That shit is absolutely gross and the number of people getting sick from it is ridiculously high compared to sushi/sashimi/raw oyster eaters. I tried raw chicken once. I didn't get sick but the taste was exactly as you'd expect. It's surprising the number of raw chicken restaurants out here that flourish.

RAW chicken? That is truly disgusting. I can't believe there is such a thing as a raw chicken restaurant. I mean, WHY?

[JohnnyBlaze]

sullysue, on 16 September 2016 - 09:43 PM, said:

JohnnyBlaze, on 16 September 2016 - 08:59 PM, said:

Ancient Ways, on 16 September 2016 - 03:18 PM, said:

sullysue, on 16 September 2016 - 02:51 PM, said:

treeduck, on 16 September 2016 - 02:12 PM, said:

Isn't raw fish full of tape worms eggs that hatch inside your belly messing you up permanently?

It's a risk, for certain. Sushi grade fish is very fresh and then brought down to a temperature just above freezing to kill any critters like your friend here. Sushi restaurants don't want to be known for giving their patrons tapeworms, so I'm sure food safety is their absolute top priority. And, reading reviews helps in finding the best sushi places around where you live.

The water is very warm where I live (Tampa, Florida) so all of our fish must be fully cooked to avoid getting sick.  It used to be easy to get raw oysters on the half shell around here until some people got very sick and some died.  Now, most places don't have it and those that do have a plethora of warnings not to do it.  This makes me more cautious than most I guess.

Same thing happened in Jacksonville I think some time in the 80s...not death, but sickness and a lot of closings.

As far as tapeworms messing you up permanently, Okinawa has the highest life expectancy on the planet. Additionally, Japan has the largest number of centenarians on the planet. Are they living with tapeworms for decades? Maybe, but I doubt it.

Having said all that, I DO see a lot of medicine ads for stomach pain/ache.

BUT infinitely worse than sushi or sashimi is raw chicken. That shit is absolutely gross and the number of people getting sick from it is ridiculously high compared to sushi/sashimi/raw oyster eaters. I tried raw chicken once. I didn't get sick but the taste was exactly as you'd expect. It's surprising the number of raw chicken restaurants out here that flourish.

RAW chicken? That is truly disgusting. I can't believe there is such a thing as a raw chicken restaurant. I mean, WHY?

Yes, raw. "Why?" It's Japan. I joke. But I'm serious with that answer too.   

Remember, potentially deadly fugu (blowfish) is an expensive delicacy out here too. I've had that a few times (luckily never paid for it) and I haven't died yet. Really though, it's not so special a taste. Even if it weren't lethal or expensive, I'd still rather have salmon, crab, tuna, shrimp, etc. before fugu/blowfish.

And I haven't even mentioned the $800 cantaloupes for sale in department stores. No joke. But that's another story.

((Edited for word selection))

Edited by JohnnyBlaze, 16 September 2016 - 10:18 PM.

[treeduck]

JohnnyBlaze, on 16 September 2016 - 10:07 PM, said:

sullysue, on 16 September 2016 - 09:43 PM, said:

JohnnyBlaze, on 16 September 2016 - 08:59 PM, said:

Ancient Ways, on 16 September 2016 - 03:18 PM, said:

sullysue, on 16 September 2016 - 02:51 PM, said:

treeduck, on 16 September 2016 - 02:12 PM, said:

Isn't raw fish full of tape worms eggs that hatch inside your belly messing you up permanently?

It's a risk, for certain. Sushi grade fish is very fresh and then brought down to a temperature just above freezing to kill any critters like your friend here. Sushi restaurants don't want to be known for giving their patrons tapeworms, so I'm sure food safety is their absolute top priority. And, reading reviews helps in finding the best sushi places around where you live.

The water is very warm where I live (Tampa, Florida) so all of our fish must be fully cooked to avoid getting sick.  It used to be easy to get raw oysters on the half shell around here until some people got very sick and some died.  Now, most places don't have it and those that do have a plethora of warnings not to do it.  This makes me more cautious than most I guess.

Same thing happened in Jacksonville I think some time in the 80s...not death, but sickness and a lot of closings.

As far as tapeworms messing you up permanently, Okinawa has the highest life expectancy on the planet. Additionally, Japan has the largest number of centenarians on the planet. Are they living with tapeworms for decades? Maybe, but I doubt it.

Having said all that, I DO see a lot of medicine ads for stomach pain/ache.

BUT infinitely worse than sushi or sashimi is raw chicken. That shit is absolutely gross and the number of people getting sick from it is ridiculously high compared to sushi/sashimi/raw oyster eaters. I tried raw chicken once. I didn't get sick but the taste was exactly as you'd expect. It's surprising the number of raw chicken restaurants out here that flourish.

RAW chicken? That is truly disgusting. I can't believe there is such a thing as a raw chicken restaurant. I mean, WHY?

Yes, raw. "Why?" It's Japan. I joke. But I'm serious with that answer too.   

Remember, potentially deadly fugu (blowfish) is an expensive delicacy out here too. I've had that a few times (luckily never paid for it) and I haven't died yet. Really though, it's not so special a taste. Even if it weren't lethal or expensive, I'd still rather have salmon, crab, tuna, shrimp, etc. before fugu/blowfish.

And I haven't even mentioned the $800 cantaloupes for sale in department stores. No joke. But that's another story.

((Edited for word selection))

You people are just puny humans, while I am a duck!

[blueschica]

treeduck, on 16 September 2016 - 11:22 PM, said:

JohnnyBlaze, on 16 September 2016 - 10:07 PM, said:

sullysue, on 16 September 2016 - 09:43 PM, said:

JohnnyBlaze, on 16 September 2016 - 08:59 PM, said:

Ancient Ways, on 16 September 2016 - 03:18 PM, said:

sullysue, on 16 September 2016 - 02:51 PM, said:

treeduck, on 16 September 2016 - 02:12 PM, said:

Isn't raw fish full of tape worms eggs that hatch inside your belly messing you up permanently?

It's a risk, for certain. Sushi grade fish is very fresh and then brought down to a temperature just above freezing to kill any critters like your friend here. Sushi restaurants don't want to be known for giving their patrons tapeworms, so I'm sure food safety is their absolute top priority. And, reading reviews helps in finding the best sushi places around where you live.

The water is very warm where I live (Tampa, Florida) so all of our fish must be fully cooked to avoid getting sick.  It used to be easy to get raw oysters on the half shell around here until some people got very sick and some died.  Now, most places don't have it and those that do have a plethora of warnings not to do it.  This makes me more cautious than most I guess.

Same thing happened in Jacksonville I think some time in the 80s...not death, but sickness and a lot of closings.

As far as tapeworms messing you up permanently, Okinawa has the highest life expectancy on the planet. Additionally, Japan has the largest number of centenarians on the planet. Are they living with tapeworms for decades? Maybe, but I doubt it.

Having said all that, I DO see a lot of medicine ads for stomach pain/ache.

BUT infinitely worse than sushi or sashimi is raw chicken. That shit is absolutely gross and the number of people getting sick from it is ridiculously high compared to sushi/sashimi/raw oyster eaters. I tried raw chicken once. I didn't get sick but the taste was exactly as you'd expect. It's surprising the number of raw chicken restaurants out here that flourish.

RAW chicken? That is truly disgusting. I can't believe there is such a thing as a raw chicken restaurant. I mean, WHY?

Yes, raw. "Why?" It's Japan. I joke. But I'm serious with that answer too.   

Remember, potentially deadly fugu (blowfish) is an expensive delicacy out here too. I've had that a few times (luckily never paid for it) and I haven't died yet. Really though, it's not so special a taste. Even if it weren't lethal or expensive, I'd still rather have salmon, crab, tuna, shrimp, etc. before fugu/blowfish.

And I haven't even mentioned the $800 cantaloupes for sale in department stores. No joke. But that's another story.

((Edited for word selection))

You people are just puny humans, while I am a duck!

I totally agree on the raw chicken!  A friend in college was an agriculture/chicken something something major that had to do with chicken processing and her stories put me off chicken for years.   You could never talk me into raw.  (Where's that vomit emoji when you need it, ha ha)

Edited by blueschica, 16 September 2016 - 11:30 PM.